RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread Alexander . Feinstein
Title: RE: Space... confusion April, 2000M = 2097152000 2097168384 - 2097152000 = 16384 = 16K 2097156096 - 2097152000 = 4096 = 4K OS size equal to ORACLE size plus 1 FS block. Check FS blocksize. Alex. -Original Message- From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread April Wells
That is it EXACTLY... thank you.. it was created sparsely, du -ak gives what df -k believes, but ls -al gives what Oracle thinks it is... Now if I can just find the manual to research the logic behind why. Okay... Oracle's answer was it can't happen, therefore it didn't happen and it therefore wo

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread April Wells
At the OS level, the files are 4000 meg. If they are created sparse, would it show at the OS level? April Wells Oracle DBA Keep yourself well oiled with life, laughter, new ideas and action. Otherwise you will rust out. _Anonymous -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 1

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread April Wells
Oh good... isn't that special... du -k says they are 3401728 k... not 'quite' 4000 meg... that makes sense. anywhere I can look this up to do more research (ie... is there a friendly manual)? April Wells Oracle DBA Keep yourself well oiled with life, laughter, new ideas and action. Otherwise y

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Anything reported in the system logs? Can you get the SAs to run the 'errpt' report to make sure there were no disk related problems. Do the permissions on the mount point directory keep others away? Once I had a smart developer(and a newbie DBA), who pointed his vi 'directory' to one of the

Re: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread Tim Gorman
Probably due to tempfiles in your TEMPORARY tablespace... Tempfiles are "sparsely populated files" (not certain if that is the correct term). That is, if you display them with the command "ls -l", you'll see them apparently consuming the full amount of space you specified when you created them.

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
April - This is what I hear you saying: - The database was set up on a file system, and there was room to spare. - The file system ran out of space. - Don't know what occurred to take up space, there should have been nothing. - The situation is fixed now. HOW?? If the above is true, I thin

Re: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread Connor McDonald
Are you using tempfiles ? Just a hypothesis: Tempfiles are created sparse, so you ask for 100M, but in reality only 1M might be allocated. As people sort, you actually start needing the 100M and kapow! hth connor --- April Wells <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Please forgive the cross postings,

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread April Wells
Is journaling, but journal isn't in that file system, just on the raw part of the volume group April Wells Oracle DBA Keep yourself well oiled with life, laughter, new ideas and action. Otherwise you will rust out. _Anonymous -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 11:29 A

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread Fink, Dan
Which files were being reported in the ORA-01114s? Could you provide more info as to the exact architecture of the db files and file system. For example, is it a single file system and ALL database files (including redo logs/archived logs/temp files/...) are stored on it. Are the control files/dum

RE: Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread Vergara, Michael (TEM)
April: I'm just guessing here, but is it a journaling file system? Could the journal be eating up your available space? HTH, Mike -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 8:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Please forgive the cross postings, but I am hoping th

Space... confusion

2002-10-10 Thread April Wells
Please forgive the cross postings, but I am hoping that someone in all of the sets of eyes that see this might have an idea I haven't thought of. *** Facts ** aix 4.3.3 oracle 9.0.1.3 new instance, up for 2 weeks locally managed tablespaces nothing with autoexte