RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-12 Thread Steve . Parker
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Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Don Dealy, II
If we put together a standby db (SUN 4500) is Oracle going to want more license money? Our thinking is, the license(s) we already own on the production server (also a 4500) cover us to keep the standby db going. We will not use the stand-by server for anything else. There will be no user

Re: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Gene Sais
I've been told the same, but I believe the rep is just trying to increase sales. If you think about it, you only have 1 license running at 1 time, installed at 1 time, therefore pay for 1 license. Usually, when you switch to the fail-over, the filesystems are umounted from production and

Re: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Rachel Carmichael
to pay an additional license fee, if you do not have any databases open in any form on that machine Rachel From: "Don Dealy, II" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Standby db license for 8.1.6 Date: Fri, 09 Mar

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Diana Duncan
Yup, they want you to pay for it, because it is an additional x number of processors. They don't care that it's not really "on" or being accessed. At filefrenzy, this policy actually led us to turn off a few of our processors. ;-) Diana -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Steve Orr
Our thinking is, the license(s) we already own on the production server (also a 4500) cover us to keep the standby db going. How absurd of you to suggest that Oracle licensing should be logical, ethical, and make common sense. :) -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:41

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Kimberly Smith
You can open a standby database in read-only mode now. How are you going to prove that you are not using it. Don't get me wrong, I don't agree with Oracle licensing but the argument is off. -Original Message- Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 7:47 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Re: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Kris Austin
if you are operating in standby mode, then your database needs to be up in order for you to apply logs from primary database. according to our oracle rep, we have to pay for that extra license (# of cpus X cpu MHz X 1.5 for RISC chip) i want to know where they come up with the 1.5. kris

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Mohan, Ross
Title: RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6 I'd love to see it. Any chance of a peek at WebSphere pricing, et alia? Thanks! -Original Message- From: Dennis Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Dennis Taylor
I'm in the process of doing comparitive pricing betwwen oracle, sqlserver, and db2. Unless someone objects, I'll give a general summary once the info is in. At 09:35 AM 3/9/01 -0800, you wrote: You can open a standby database in read-only mode now. How are you going to prove that you are not

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Gary Weber
Dennis, PLEASE post your findings! I had to go through similar exercise recently involving Oracle and Squeal Server, we may want to exchange notes off the list. Gary -Original Message- Taylor Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I'm in the

Re: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Gene Sais
thats right. if its standy, they charge you, but if you use HA, say ibm sp's, hp mc serviceguard, or sun's /veritas trusted cluster, then you save on oracle licensing. btw, i heard veritas trusted cluster is a bear to set up (maybe the list can shed more light on this). i never used it, but

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Mandar Ghosalkar
. -Mandar -Original Message- From: Dennis Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6 I'm in the process of doing comparitive pricing betwwen oracle, sqlserver, and db2. Unless

RE: Standby db license for 8.1.6

2001-03-09 Thread Dennis Taylor
At 01:55 PM 3/9/01 -0800, you wrote: Hi Dennis, In my previous job as a dba in a dot com, it was found db2 to be more attractive in terms of price/features. are u including database clients software, hardware for the database server and backup infrastructure for the concerned databases would