Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Sultan Syed
Hi, I am getting little confussion how the memory is allocated for top-level heaps and subheaps in shared pool. How can we know what are all the top-level heaps and subheaps and their hierarchy. Is it possible to get it from any X$ tables. Freeable chunks can be flushed out?If yes ,then

RE: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Bobak, Mark
Sultan Syed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:49 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Top level heaps/subheaps Hi, I am getting little confussion how the memory is allocated for top-level heaps and subheaps in shared pool. How can we k

RE: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Nelson, Allan
-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bobak, MarkSent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 8:10 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Top level heaps/subheaps To quote Steve's book, aka "The Bible": freeabl: Freeable chunks conta

RE: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Bobak, Mark
2004 9:44 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Top level heaps/subheaps However, give serious thought to reading Jonathon Lewis' book Practical Oracle 8i prior to the Adams book unless you understand virtually everything in Jonathon's book. Steve's book is excellent but

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Tanel Poder
Well, a heap is just a bunch of memory (allocated incontiguous extents) and you can practically allocate any size of chunk of memory from it (with some restrictions). A regular heap has freelist and LRU list mechanismsfor managing space init as well as memory allocation/releasing routines

RE: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Guerra, Abraham J
-LSubject: Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps Well, a heap is just a bunch of memory (allocated incontiguous extents) and you can practically allocate any size of chunk of memory from it (with some restrictions). A regular heap has freelist and LRU list mechanismsfor managing space init as well

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Pete Finnigan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I won't argue that, Allan.  The guy writes two sentences, and it takes a week for the full implications of what he said to sink in.   Jonathan's book is excellent as well.  They are both at the top of my reference list, as well as my recommended list.

RE: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
* to satisfy curiosity * to have a better understanding of how Oracle works Most DBA's probably don't need to know this stuff. Most performance problems will not likely require you to know any of this. If you spend a lot of time solving other people's 'unsolvable' Oracle performance problems,

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
The name is Breitling. Wolfgang Breitling. Not to be confused with Bond. James Bond. On 2004.01.06 12:34, Jared Still wrote: * to satisfy curiosity * to have a better understanding of how Oracle works Most DBA's probably don't need to know this stuff. Most performance problems will not

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
As well as Arthur's books and Douglas's books. Some of the Robert's, too. Personally, I'd recommend Stranger In The Strange Land. On 2004.01.06 12:04, Pete Finnigan wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I won't argue that, Allan.  The guy writes two sentences, and it takes a week for the

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jonathan Lewis
You missed out Terry: quote Oh, it's largely intuitive, Archchancellor. Obviously you have to spend a lot of time learning it first, though. end quote Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk The educated person is not the person who can answer the questions, but the

Re: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Welcome back. I was wondering where you've been the last couple of weeks. At 11:19 AM 1/6/2004, you wrote: As well as Arthur's books and Douglas's books. Some of the Robert's, too. Personally, I'd recommend Stranger In The Strange Land. Wolfgang Breitling Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA Centrex

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
Yeah I know, did it again. On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 10:19, Mladen Gogala wrote: The name is Breitling. Wolfgang Breitling. Not to be confused with Bond. James Bond. On 2004.01.06 12:34, Jared Still wrote: * to satisfy curiosity * to have a better understanding of how Oracle works Most

RE: Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Niall Litchfield
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: Top level heaps/subheaps You missed out Terry: quote Oh, it's largely intuitive, Archchancellor. Obviously you have to spend a lot of time learning it first, though. end quote Regards Jonathan Lewis http

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
Since we're both going to be in Dallas in March I'll have to have you write my name 1000 times ;-) At 01:04 PM 1/6/2004, you wrote: Yeah I know, did it again. Wolfgang Breitling Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA Centrex Consulting Corporation http://www.centrexcc.com -- Please see the official

Re: (long) Top level heaps/subheaps

2004-01-06 Thread Jared Still
Piece of cake using vi, perl, or even pl/sql. vi: 1000iWolfgangENTERESC perl: print qq{Wolfgang\n} x 1000; pl/sql: typically more verbose, left as an exercise for the reader. Oh, you didn't mean paper did you? Not sure I still know how to do that. ;) Jared On Tue, 2004-01-06 at 12:19,