VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Andrey Bronfin
Dear list ! I'm reposting this , since got no replies yet. I need to design a backup policy for a VLDB sized some 10TB, running as close to 24X7 as possible. I need 2 versions of the policy: One is the best case , i.e. money does not matter, the company can aquire any software / hardware , the

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Kimberly Smith
You could split off a mirror and backup the mirror however, I have never done that so I am not going to get into it. I know there are others in the list who have done it for their backup strategy. Keep in mind that if you are running in archive log mode you need not backup every data file at

Re: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
best case, unlimited funds, you need something like EMC's SRDF or IBM's HACMP which are remote mirrored solutions. --- Andrey Bronfin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear list ! I'm reposting this , since got no replies yet. I need to design a backup policy for a VLDB sized some 10TB, running

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Andrey Bronfin
thanks a lot Kimberly ! DBAndrey * 03-9254520 * 053-464562 * mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 5:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You could split off a mirror and backup the mirror however, I have never done that so I am not

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Andrey, I think that you are looking at this problem from the wrong end. Rather than come up with backup scenarious first and reporting back to management, I think you need to get managment to declare to you their Mean Time to Recovery. By this I mean that they need to tell you how long they

Re: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread George Schlossnagle
I would also suggest (in a world somewhere between ideal and 'cheapest') using Veritas NetBackup with the Block-Level Incremental extension for Oracle. This is really nice for saving on tape costs and backup time - it performs incremental backups of your datafiles on a block level (thus the

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Andrey Bronfin
Thanks a lot to all who replied ! Tom , thanks , i forgot to mention , the DB is expected to get recovered in something like 1-3 hours. Another correction , the DB size will be around 1TB for the beginning and is expected to grow to 10TB within a couple of years. HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL !

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
The problem is, most business users say 5 minutes (and btw, the emc srdf option is actually faster than a hot standby, since a hot standby might need log files to be applied while the mirroring does not -- check out Lawrence To's papers) so you go ahead and figure out what a 5 minutes scenario

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Aponte, Tony
Title: RE: VLDB backup policy What type of application is it (OLTP, DSS, mixed, etc.)? Also, is it monolithic or can the functionality be broken down into usage profiles (i.e. mostly read, high velocity update, etc.)? -Original Message- From: Andrey Bronfin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread George Schlossnagle
One problem with SRDF though is that it doesn't protect against block corruption. SRDF is really really cool, but is not a complete backup plan in and of itself. George - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002

Re: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
absolutely true -- but if they want instant recovery, then this will handle hardware failure --- George Schlossnagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One problem with SRDF though is that it doesn't protect against block corruption. SRDF is really really cool, but is not a complete backup plan in

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
It works really well for a DR site though!! Greg -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2002 2:20 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L One problem with SRDF though is that it doesn't protect against block corruption. SRDF is really really cool, but is not a complete

RE: VLDB backup policy

2002-01-02 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: VLDB backup policy check out SharePlex for Oracle. The target system is completely open and available while it is applying the changes from the source. If you are expecting 25 GB of redo generation per day, it will usually be under 15 seconds latency. And it's a LOT cheaper than