RE: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-30 Thread Pete Sharman
Well, there are plenty of objective detailed comparisons on www.oracle.com! :)) Pete "Controlling developers is like herding cats." Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook "Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than that!" Bruce Pihlamae, long-term Oracle DBA -Original Message- Boivin, Patrice J

RE: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Patrice - By technical, do you mean a feature comparison or a performance comparison. You might want to research the eWeek benchmark for the three a couple of years ago. They made extensive efforts to produce an objective performance analysis, but even at that they had another article later about t

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-28 Thread Mladen Gogala
Well, all of those benchmarks could be summarized in a single sentence: Oracle is the best, ite missa est. On 11/28/2003 12:19:25 PM, Jared Still wrote: > Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in my response. > > On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 03:14, Tanel Poder wrote: > > > And since we all know that memory acce

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-28 Thread Jared Still
Perhaps you missed the sarcasm in my response. On Fri, 2003-11-28 at 03:14, Tanel Poder wrote: > > And since we all know that memory accesses are > > ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks > > just drive the point home. > > Of course you talk about "raw" memory access vs. "raw" disk access

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-28 Thread Tanel Poder
> And since we all know that memory accesses are > ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks > just drive the point home. Of course you talk about "raw" memory access vs. "raw" disk access here... When you have several memory protection and disk caching mechanisms these figures will change..

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Jared Still
Yes, I saw that when it first appeared on /. Seems some bright programmers are trying to dispense with databases altogether. Keep it in memory and write it to disk occasionally for backup. And since we all know that memory accesses are ~14k times faster than disk, these benchmarks just drive th

RE: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
I tried MySQL at home... there don't seem to be any user-friendly tools for it. I like user-friendly. I am curious about SleepyCat as a replacement for Access, could I use that with OpenOffice I wonder. Patrice. -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 4:05 PM To: Multiple

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Stephane Faroult
Jared, It is no longer MySQL the "hot" product. You have 9,000 times faster than Oracle http://www.prevayler.org/wiki.jsp?topic=ScalabilityTestResults got there from a link on Fabian Pascal's site. You can guess he is unimpressed ;-) ... You can get any answer indeed. Just ask the q

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Jared Still
Speed is relative. In the early 20th century Henry Ford built a fast car. It had an ~1100 cubic inch engine, and would go over 100 MPH. No seatbelts, no roll cage, open gearing ( oil and grease everywhere), no roof, and nearly useless brakes. You could go fast, but would you want to? Jared O

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Ryan
i keep hearing that mysql is fast, but have never seen one benchmark. people just assume its true. In what sense? what conditions? Around 400 BC Aristotle stated that heavy objects fall faster than light objects. It wasnt until the 15th century that someone actually tried to test it... they just as

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Jared Still
So is MySQL, supposedly. These things are usually very subjective, and rarely objective. Jared On Thu, 2003-11-27 at 08:49, Ryan wrote: > where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm > is faster than oracle? > - Original Message - > To: "Multiple recipients

Re: an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Ryan
where do they get these 'speed' indicators from? the article says that ibm is faster than oracle? - Original Message - To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2003 11:04 AM > http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html > > I have

an article comparing Oracle to other databases

2003-11-27 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
http://www.ecommercetimes.com/perl/story/32200.html I have yet to see an objective, detailed comparison of Oracle, DB2 and SQL Server. From a technical (i.e. what can it do) as well as from an organisational (i.e. how is it to manage) point of view. Even 3rd party "think tanks" seem to walk on e