Re[2]: HELP!!! : Can't start database - Rollback Datafiles a

2003-01-31 Thread dgoulet
the controlfile. Then when you open the database the tablespace stays offline you can drop it and it's contents thereby cleaning up the data dictionary. Yes, you can't do that with the rollback segments on line either, which is why you need to comment them out of the init.ora. Dick Goulet

RE: What gets written to redo on a rollback?

2003-01-17 Thread Fink, Dan
Bill, A rollback will generate redo, so that it can be recovered. If a system crashed during a rollback, the database must be able to recover to the point at which the rollback had terminated. Since a rollback is applying the undo records (think opposite actions), it is modifying data, so

Re: What gets written to redo on a rollback?

2003-01-17 Thread Jonathan Lewis
On an ordinary insert, you get a redo record for the row, and the undo (rollback) for that row. You also get a similar record for each index that has to be updated because of the new row. Similarly, an update or delete will generate one redo record for the table, and one redo record for each

What gets written to redo on a rollback?

2003-01-16 Thread Carle, William T (Bill), ALCAS
I recently had a situation where a process went down and Oracle had to roll back the transaction. The original transaction did around 60,000 inserts and/or updates. When Oracle did its rollback, it generated many redo logs in a short period of time, but there seems to be a wide variety

import and rollback segments

2002-12-20 Thread Leonard, George
Hi all Can a person somehow force a import process to use a specific rollback segment. I got a live system with many smallish segments, the dump file is about 20 GB and take just over 12 hours to process but it requires a big rollback segment. I don't want to offline the small once so that only

RE: import and rollback segments

2002-12-20 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
rollback segment. I got a live system with many smallish segments, the dump file is about 20 GB and take just over 12 hours to process but it requires a big rollback segment. I don't want to offline the small once so that only a big one is online since this causes problems with the day to day

Re: import and rollback segments

2002-12-20 Thread Rick_Cale
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RE: import and rollback segments

2002-12-20 Thread Leonard, George
-Original Message- Sent: Friday, December 20, 2002 7:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all Can a person somehow force a import process to use a specific rollback segment. I got a live system with many smallish segments, the dump file is about 20 GB and take just over 12

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-13 Thread Jared Still
don't think we welcome such people like you here. David -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Yechiel Adar
and whether you want it alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize 10240M; For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg: alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on maxsize 10240M; You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
; For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg: alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on maxsize 10240M; You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max extents of an existing one. eg to add another rollback segment: CREATE

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Yechiel Adar
up on the implications of autoextend and whether you want it alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\DAT_LARGE_01.dbf' resize 10240M; For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg: alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on maxsize 10240M

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-11 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
; For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg: alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on maxsize 10240M; You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max extents of an existing one. eg to add another rollback segment

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Nguyen, David M
, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase the size of your datafiles or rollback segments, you must

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Henry Poras
your mouth. I don't think we welcome such people like you here. David -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Godlewski, Melissa
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments I disagree! I do welcome Jeremiah's input on this list. David, I think you missed the smiley attached to his message. -Original Message- From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Ruth Gramolini
here. David -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments What bothers me is why can't you use sqlplus? Why do you need GUI tool? Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Richard Ji
, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase the size of your datafiles or rollback

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Weaver, Walt
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments Au contraire, I welcome Jeremiah just about anywhere, as long as he doesn't drink too much of my beer. Read between the lines, David.There's a message there. :) --Walt Weaver Bozeman, Montana -Original Message

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael
welcome such people like you here. David -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Rachel Carmichael
ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Yechiel Adar
I welcome David input always, especially when he is yanking the leg of someone who did not troubled himself to open the SQL manual and look at obvious commands like alter rollback segment and alter tablespace. I liked his answer. BTW, Please do not tell ANYONE on this list to shut up. It is bad

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments ORACLE ORACLE ORACLE ORACLE SQL*NET Just bringing it back on topic :) Nick -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2002 10:21 AM To: Multiple recipients

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Stephane Paquette
. David -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Ruth Gramolini
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Nguyen, David M
. David -Original Message- Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 5:39 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Jeremy Pulcifer
Title: RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments From: Nguyen, David M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Alright guys, just because you know Jeremiah better than me so you can take his joke. I have no idea who Jeremiah is from Adam, and I got the joke. Hell, I nearly flamed you

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
.dbf' resize 10240M; For rollback datafile - same as any other datafile, eg: alter database datafile 'C:\ORADATA\fred\ROLLBACK1.DBF' autoextend on maxsize 10240M; You may then need to add another rollback segment or increase the max extents of an existing one. eg to add another rollback segment

RE: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-10 Thread Khedr, Waleed
and rollback segments How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Thanks,David

Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-09 Thread Nguyen, David M
How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Thanks,David

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-09 Thread Jeremiah Wilton
On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based on your level of license with Oracle Corp. If you need to increase the size of your datafiles

Re: Increase size of data files and rollback segments

2002-12-09 Thread orafaq
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 3:38 AM On Mon, 9 Dec 2002, Nguyen, David M wrote: How do I increase size of oracle data files and rollback segments and Can I do it when database is online? Unfortunately these sizes are fixed, and based

Re: How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-26 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Thanks Jared, thats not what I see. I have 20 rollback segments, and at no point in time, there were more than 4 transactions in the rollback segments. In fact, I happened to see it a couple of minutes ago. select usn, xacts from v$rollstat showed me 0 in 19 rollback segments, and 2 in one

Re: How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-26 Thread Jared . Still
Raj, You're assuming that the transactions are lasting long enough for you to catch them in the rollback segments. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/26/2002 09:42 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-26 Thread Cary Millsap
running) with n rollback segments, open n+1 sqlplus sessions. In each session, update a row but don't commit. After each session's update, look at V$ROLLSTAT. To the best of my knowledge, the assignment algorithm has always been to assign a new txn to the segment with the smallest number of active

RE: How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-26 Thread Fink, Dan
Raj, Not to be too obvious, but... Are there any transactions that are being explicitly assigned to the rollback segments by the user/application? -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Thanks Jared, thats not what

RE: How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-26 Thread Jared . Still
In v7, the tie-breaker algorithm apparently changed to choose the segment that is listed earliest in the init.ora file. What if the rollback segments are created PUBLIC, and are not listed in init.ora? Order of sys.undo$.us#? Jared Cary Millsap [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL

RE: Urgent: ORA-02067 transaction or savepoint rollback required (Distributed transaction)

2002-11-26 Thread OraCop
Hello, Are u performing any exception handeling in Ur code? Try to capture oracle err mesg using USER DEFINED EXCEPTIONS. For more detail look into DBMS_ERROR_CODE and DBMS_ERROR_TEXT OraCOP --- Charu Joshi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Arup, Thanks for the reply. I have

How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-25 Thread Rajesh . Rao
Hello Friends, Oracle Parallel Server 8.0.6.2.0 on Solaris 2.6 Nodes We were having some locking and rollback issues, and I set up some scripts to alert me in case there are more than 4 transactions in the rollback segments, and more than 1 in any of the rollback segments. Select sum(xacts

Re: How are rollback segments assigned?

2002-11-25 Thread Jared . Still
Here's one scenario: 4 transactions, 2 rollback segs tx 1 - rbs1 tx 2 - rbs 2 tx 3 - rbs 1 tx 4 - rbs 2 tx1 and tx3 finish. tx2 and tx4 have not yet committed. Jared [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/25/2002 07:39 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L

ROLLBACK SEGMENT Tuning

2002-11-22 Thread Seema Singh
Hi I noticed few of rollback segment in one of Database are having few waits.Is it necessary to create rollback segment with new size? Can u please some one send some infor on rollback segment tunning? Thx -Seema _ Add photos

Urgent: ORA-02067 transaction or savepoint rollback required (Distributed transaction)

2002-11-21 Thread Charu Joshi
Gurus, Desperately need some ideas to solve this one. Following is the sequence of events as it happens: 1. Front-end application (VC++) queries from a view V. V fetches data from a remote database RD via a database link. 2. Front-end inserts a row in a local table LT. 3. The Insert trigger on

RE: Urgent: ORA-02067 transaction or savepoint rollback required (Distributed transaction)

2002-11-21 Thread Charu Joshi
Gurus, Sorry, forgot to mention one very important fact - this error doesn't occur always - sometimes (but rarely) it's succeeds as well. Thanks, Charu -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:22 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' (Distributed transaction) Gurus, Desperately

Re: Urgent: ORA-02067 transaction or savepoint rollback required (Distributed transaction)

2002-11-21 Thread Arup Nanda
Charu, I guess the error you are getting is Table or Trigger is mutating. and perhaps you are using an after insert row trigger. This is a common and expected problem. There are ways to get around it. You have not mentioned the version of Oracle; I would assume 8.1.7 or later. Inside an after

RE: Urgent: ORA-02067 transaction or savepoint rollback required (Distributed transaction)

2002-11-21 Thread Charu Joshi
Hi Arup, Thanks for the reply. I have checked the trigger code thoroughly and surely it's not a mutating trigger. Nor is there any cascade effect or the trace files would have shown the statements within that trigger. There is some other error occurring, but we are not able to trap it because

Rollback Segment Size Testing.

2002-11-12 Thread chao_ping
hi, list friends: I am interested in that topic:http://www.ioug.org/ioug_s/repository_pkg.doc?v_tech_content_dtl_phy_id=7666 I am also considering whether too large rbs segment size does have adverse impact on database performance. In my production (OLTP) i configured rbs to be

Re: Rollback Segment Size Testing.

2002-11-12 Thread Tim Gorman
Zhu Chao, Please be aware that rollback segments serve two major purposes: * recover individual transactions (i.e. rollback) * provide before-image information for read-consistency The information you are getting from V$ROLLSTAT and STATSPACK is accurate at measuring the first purpose

Rollback segment full

2002-11-01 Thread Gharat, Sachin (GEP)
Hi all i am trying to execuate one procedure which upadte the table containing 29443 records. After 2 hours going in loop, procedure returns following error: SQL exec test BEGIN test; END; * ERROR at line 1: ORA-01562: failed to extend rollback segment number 2 ORA-01628: max # extents (249

RE: Rollback segment full

2002-11-01 Thread Ratnesh Kumar Singh
3 options 1. if possible , put a commit in your procedure to reduce load on rollback segs 2. ask your dba to increase size of rollback segments. Since rollback segment allocation is random, u may have to drop the smaller rbs segs and create new larger segs 3. increase the maxextents of existing

Rollback segment space usage

2002-10-23 Thread Leonard, George
Hi all, Trying here now since have tried to find it online and build the query myself. I need to figure out how much space a user/session is using of a rollback segment. I got the queries to show which segment the user is attached to but need to know how much is being used (something like

RE: Rollback segment space usage

2002-10-23 Thread Fink, Dan
, Trying here now since have tried to find it online and build the query myself. I need to figure out how much space a user/session is using of a rollback segment. I got the queries to show which segment the user is attached to but need to know how much is being used (something like a fuel gauge

RE: Rollback segment space usage

2002-10-23 Thread Kevin Lange
, t.start_time, s.sql_address Address, s.sql_hash_value Sql Hash FROM sys.v_$session s, sys.v_$transaction t, sys.v_$rollname r WHERE t.addr = s.taddr AND t.xidusn = r.usn ORDER BY t.start_time Try this. It shows the undo blocks used in the rollback segment. Plus some other variables for query

Re: Rollback segment space usage

2002-10-23 Thread Mohammad Rafiq
recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2002 09:02:17 -0800 Hi all, Trying here now since have tried to find it online and build the query myself. I need to figure out how much space a user/session is using of a rollback segment. I got the queries to show which segment

RE: Rollback segment space usage

2002-10-23 Thread Leonard, George
AND t.xidusn = r.usn ORDER BY t.start_time Try this. It shows the undo blocks used in the rollback segment. Plus some other variables for query usage. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2002 12:02 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi all, Trying here now since

Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Erik Williams
I am performing an export of a set of very large tables. I am not using CONSISTENT mode. The exports are failing due to snapshot too old errors. The application uses many small rollback segments, but has one large one for big transactions. Is it possible to force the export to use the large

Re: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Rajesh . Rao
The only correct resolution to this is to ensure that DML transactions referencing the tables being backed up, are not run at the same time. Bringing the big rollback segment online wont buy you anything. You could delay the inevitable by removing the optimal clauses if set. Raj

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
in the rollback segments, but when the transaction that caused the changes commits, eventually Oracle releases these. In your case, before the export reaches the end of the table, it tries to retrieve a block, learns it is changed, checks the rollback segments, learns it has been released, then reports

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Naveen Nahata
I'm not sure whether there is another way, but can the following be done? in the after logon trigger specify: 'SET TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT...? don't know whether this statement is allowed inside a trigger and also whether it will work. and also, export commits periodically

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Darshan Singh
Hi, The snapshot too old error comes when someone has started a query on one table and at the same time some transaction is going on. So at this time the select query will read from rollback segment to create a consistent view in time. Now in what happens select query has started reading

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Naveen Nahata
TRANSACTION USE ROLLBACK SEGMENT...? don't know whether this statement is allowed inside a trigger and also whether it will work. and also, export commits periodically, the statement will go off after the first commit(even if it was allowed) regards naveen -Original Message- Sent: Friday

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Stephen Lee
You try using direct=y on the export to see if it speeds things up enough that you don't get shot down. There are some cases where you can't do this (I would have to look it up to get them all): For example, if you are using the query= parameter. But most of the time, you can greatly reduce

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Erik Williams
Message- Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 10:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I am performing an export of a set of very large tables. I am not using CONSISTENT mode. The exports are failing due to snapshot too old errors. The application uses many small rollback segments, but has one

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
not using CONSISTENT mode. The exports are failing due to snapshot too old errors. The application uses many small rollback segments, but has one large one for big transactions. Is it possible to force the export to use the large segment without taking all the others (except System) offline? I have

RE: Specify Rollback for an Export

2002-10-18 Thread Erik Williams
tables. I am not using CONSISTENT mode. The exports are failing due to snapshot too old errors. The application uses many small rollback segments, but has one large one for big transactions. Is it possible to force the export to use the large segment without taking all the others (except System) offline

[Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread dist cash
We have ORACLE 8.1.7.4 running on NT. My questions are: 1. What difference between public rollback segment and private segement? 2. what is benefit on public segment than private segment? 3. does public segment only use on paraller server (RAC)? Thanks

Re: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Reginald . W . Bailey
Private rollback segments usually are listed in the init.ora file. Public rollback segments are created with the PUBLIC parameter and are available to multiple instances that accesses the same database. Private rollback segments are also explicitly acquired when an instance opens a database

RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Baker, Barbara
Can't remember where I copied this from, but I believe it came from metalink. I don't have a version associated with it, so things might have changed in v9. HTH Barb Public vs. Private Rollback Segments A common misconception about `Private' rollback

Re:RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread dgoulet
Except in the case of maintenance on rollback segments. You can take a private segment offline at anytime, whereas a public one has to be done with the database unmounted. Dick Goulet Reply Separator Author: Baker; Barbara [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 10

RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread John . Hallas
things might have changed in v9. HTH Barb Public vs. Private Rollback Segments A common misconception about `Private' rollback segments is that they are segments reserved for a particular use or a particular transaction. The only difference between Public

Re: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Tim Gorman
This is my understanding of "private" versus "public" rollback segments: Private RBS can be brought online only via explicit ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT xxx ONLINE command. The "init.ora" parameter ROLLBACK_SEGMENTS is only a list for the automatic

RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Gogala, Mladen
Public rollback segments are managed by the federal government (Department of Rollback Vehicles) and are likely to be unionized, while the private rollback segments are managed by the DBA. I'm sure that oracle documentation covers this in detail. -Original Message- From: dist cash

Re: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Jared . Still
Comment: The fact that a PUBLIC rollback segment comes online at startup without altering the init.ora is a very useful feature. I am at this moment creating a 40 gig RBS tablespace in an SAP database, to be used by a single PUBLIC rollback segment. There are certain utility operations

Re:RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Jared . Still
No, I don't think so. 11:08:27 rsysdevdb.radisys.com - jkstill@dv01 SQL create tablespace puglic rollback segment jks tablespace rbs; Rollback segment created. 11:08:47 rsysdevdb.radisys.com - jkstill@dv01 SQL alter rollback segment jks online; Rollback segment altered. 11:08:55

RE: RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Sherman, Paul R.
Jared, Ah... but, no one had an opportunity to access the segment that you created. I'm prob. wrong, but I seem to remember that at one time (the mists) once the rollback seg was accessed, you could not just 'off it'. Could be I'm thinking of something else. Thank you, Paul Sherman DBAElcom

Re: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Rachel Carmichael
in fact I see advantages to using private (assuming you are not running OPS/RAC) There are times when you might not want all the rollback segments to be online and available. You have control over this with private rollback segments. You do not have this control with public rollback segments

RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Inka Bezdziecka
Additionally: 'create rollback segment...' defaults to 'private' and the only time when I needlessly use a keyboard is to send a message like this one -Original Message-From: Tim Gorman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2002 1:59 PMTo: Multiple recipients

RE: RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment?

2002-10-17 Thread Jared . Still
No, that isn't it. :) Sherman, Paul R. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/17/2002 12:37 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: RE: [Q] Public and private rollback segment

ROLLBACK SEGMENT FRAGMENTATION

2002-10-07 Thread Seema Singh
Hi My rollback tablespace is highly fragmented.I am thinking to do like following? -Create new rollback tablespace rbs1 -Create rollback segments -Offline all rollback segments from old rollback tablespace (rbs) -Drop rollback segments from rbs tablespace -Drop tablespace rbs -Create RBS

Re: ROLLBACK SEGMENT FRAGMENTATION

2002-10-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
before you do all this by fragmented do you mean that there are a large number of free extents in the tablespace? If so, are those extents all the same size or at least a multiple of the same size? If so, why are you bothering to defragment? You would only need to defragment the rollback

Re: ROLLBACK SEGMENT FRAGMENTATION

2002-10-07 Thread Tim Gorman
Why do you think it is fragmented? Why do you think it is a problem? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:36 AM Hi My rollback tablespace is highly fragmented.I am thinking to do like following? -Create

RE: Rollback !

2002-08-29 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
in 8i, it won't work. Regards zhu chao Eachnet DBA 86-21-32174588-667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === 2002-08-28 00:13:00 ,you wrote£º=== 1.) Can we rollback a drop statement ? No. However, you can use Log Miner. Alexandre -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http

Re: Rollback !

2002-08-28 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev
1.) Can we rollback a drop statement ? No. However, you can use Log Miner. Alexandre -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego

Re: Re: Rollback !

2002-08-28 Thread zhu chao
-28 00:13:00 ,you wrote£º=== 1.) Can we rollback a drop statement ? No. However, you can use Log Miner. Alexandre -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858

How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Jonny Delmont
SEGMENT_TYPE EXTENTS MAX_EXTENTS-- --- -- -- ---SYS SYSTEM ROLLBACK 505 505 SQL connect sys Enter password: Connected.SQL alter ROLLBACK sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);alter ROLLBACK sys.system storage (maxextents 1024) *ERROR at line 1:ORA-01902: SEGMENT

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe
I don't wantto sound too obvious but isn't the answer in the error message ?? . RTFMtime. As an aside, why do you need to extend your system rollback segment Lee -Original Message-From: Jonny Delmont [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 28 August 2002 10:53To: Multiple recipients

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Mark Leith
Do you mind if I ask why? Do you have any other rollback segments in place other than the SYSTEM one? In answer to your question though, look at the error message.. You missed out the word segment. alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024); HTH Mark

Re: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Stephane Faroult
and max_extents != 0 4 / OWNER SEGMENT_NAMESEGMENT_TYPE EXTENTS MAX_EXTENTS -- --- -- -- --- SYSSYSTEM ROLLBACK 505 505 SQL connect sys Enter password: Connected. SQL alter ROLLBACK sys.system

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Hately Mike
ORA-01902: SEGMENT keyword expected alter rollback segment sys.system storage (maxextents 1024); regards, Mike -Original Message- Sent: 28 August 2002 10:53 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Dear Gurus, Could you please help me out with this - I want to increase

Re: Re: Rollback !

2002-08-28 Thread Alexandre Gorbatchev
PROTECTED] === 2002-08-28 00:13:00 ,you wrote£º=== 1.) Can we rollback a drop statement ? No. However, you can use Log Miner. Alexandre -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Jonny Delmont
Mark, Thanks, your command doesn't help. To answer your question, Database was setup'd by previous DBA. Still i've never seen this type of segment... SQL alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024);alter rollback SEGMENT sys.system storage (maxextents 1024) *ERROR at line 1:ORA

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Mark Leith
Jonny The SYSTEM rollback segment is/was created initially on a database build, and the recommendation has always been to add extra rollback segments straight away for normal transactional processing. You really *should* have other rollback segments available for your users.. What output do you

Re: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Jack van Zanen
The message tells you already Alter rollback segment sys.system etc i.s.o. Alter rollback sys.system Jonny Delmont

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Rachel Carmichael
create a rollback tablespace, create new rollback segments IN the rollback tablespace and take the rollback segment named SYSTEM offline. Do NOT use it. Having an active rollback segment in your system tablespace is like allowing users to create objects there. Especially listen to Stephane

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Jonny Delmont
Thanks all for your help. Jonny Rachel Carmichael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: create a rollback tablespace, create new rollback segments IN therollback tablespace and take the rollback segment named "SYSTEM"offline. Do NOT use it. Having an active rollback segment in your system

RE: Re: Rollback !

2002-08-28 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
, you cannot recover from drop using logmnr.It is internal dml to data dictionary, maybe in 9i it will work, i am not sure.But in 8i, it won't work. Regards zhu chao Eachnet DBA 86-21-32174588-667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === 2002-08-28 00:13:00 ,you wrote£º=== 1.) Can we rollback a drop

RE: Re: Rollback !

2002-08-28 Thread Cary Millsap
. Regards zhu chao Eachnet DBA 86-21-32174588-667 [EMAIL PROTECTED] === 2002-08-28 00:13:00 ,you wrote£º=== 1.) Can we rollback a drop statement ? No. However, you can use Log Miner. Alexandre -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Alexandre Gorbatchev

RE: Re: Rollback !

2002-08-28 Thread Gogala, Mladen
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: Re: Rollback ! Alexandre - Thanks for posting the link. I read the document. It describes how to track the DDL statements. Unless I overlooked something, it doesn't say you can UNDO DDL. I think the reason was explained earlier on this post

RE: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Fink, Dan
be specifically allocated to a transaction by a user. Always create additional rollback segments in a separate tablespace. If you fill up the rbs tablespace, the transaction fails. If you fill up the system tablespace, the database fails. -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2002 7

Re: How to increase maxextents of ROLLBACK segment_type?

2002-08-28 Thread Jared . Still
Johnny, Sorry to point out the obvious, ;) but the error message is telling you what to do. It's ALTER ROLLBACK SEGMENT ... Jared Jonny Delmont [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/28/2002 02:53 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list

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