Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-27 Thread Binley Lim
ts of list ORACLE-L Sent: Saturday, October 25, 2003 10:09 PM Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? No, blocks won't fill up to PCTFREE in case a block is already above PCTUSED and the next insert would drop amount of free space less than PCTFREE. Block

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-27 Thread K Gopalakrishnan
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 4:59 PM Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? What you have described is expected behaviour - if"the next insert would drop amount of free space less than PCTFREE",

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-25 Thread Tanel Poder
recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 6:39 AM Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? Yes, I understand BBW, and how PCTFREE affects block density, and hence BBW. My point, which you appear to have missed, is PCTUSED does not affect

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-22 Thread Richard Foote
:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases by specifying smaller temporary

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-22 Thread Arup Nanda
: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases by specifying smaller temporary tables, as if they could prevent them from becoming large. I suppose

RE: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Mark Leith
: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Arup Nanda
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases by specifying smaller temporary tables

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Tim Gorman
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases by specifying smaller temporary tables, as if they could prevent them from becoming large. I suppose

Re: Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread rgaffuri
issue, since it all goes across the same pipe. From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/21 Tue AM 09:24:25 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? For PCTFREE, setting it to less than the default of 10

RE: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Barbara Baker
Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Arup Nanda
"Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:24 AMSubject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? I'm unclear how BBW is related to PCTUSED. PCTUSED is used to control when blocks are returned to the freelist due to deletions

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Arup Nanda
use them. So I want to make sure Im not missing something. From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Barbara Baker
Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases

RE: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Goulet, Dick
never use them. So I want to make sure Im not missing something. From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Mladen Gogala
All that is nice, but from my practice so far, by far the most frequent cause of the buffer busy waits id DBWR being unable to catch up. This can come as a consequence of several things: - Poorly written transaction that modifies thousands of blocks during peak time hours. Typical example is bill

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-21 Thread Binley Lim
in DW.HTH.Arup Nanda- Original Message - From: "Binley Lim" [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 10:24 AMSubject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? I'm unclear how BBW is related to

using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
This is for non-transactional data load instances. The guys here sware that by using smaller temporary tables(not global temp tables) they can increase the speed of the data loads. Not worried about latch contention because its just for bulk loads. I know this bad in transactional instances.

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread Tim Gorman
All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example. However, the guys here covered their bases by specifying smaller temporary tables, as if they could prevent them from becoming large. I suppose they might feel that they indemnify themselves if the tables should ever

Re: Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread rgaffuri
not missing something. From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's open interfaces are built this way, for example

Re: using temp tables for staging databases?

2003-10-20 Thread Tim Gorman
which says never use them. So I want to make sure Im not missing something. From: Tim Gorman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 2003/10/20 Mon AM 10:19:33 EDT To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: using temp tables for staging databases? All the time. Oracle Apps's