RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
I resemble that remark! Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct for some people sometime. :) Aussies aint direct, oh no. Just talk with Danish! Regards, Carel-Jan === If you think education is expensive, try ignorance. (Derek Bok) === -- Please see the official ORACLE-L

RE: Re: Problem with understanding Optimization methods.

2004-01-07 Thread Stephane Faroult
To what Mladen said about the optimizer_blah parameters, there is another thing which can be added. Most third-party software is over-indexed (as you have noticed) because they optimistically want to cover *all* possible cases and quite often a column which is highly discreminant at one site

Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Nuno Souto
- Original Message - (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is no profanity in the book...) You mean you gloss over BCHR? Shame on you! ;) Cheers Nuno Souto [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nuno Souto

Sql question

2004-01-07 Thread roland . skoldblom
Hallo, I have this sql query. I would like to change it so I could pick out the three forst three charachters in the between statements. How can I do that in the most simply way? and vgr in (between 101 and 101) and vgr in (between 104 and 104) order by Avdnr ,Datum1

RE: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-07 Thread Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson
Venu, I've taken both PD101 and OP101 and I can thoroughly recommend both of them. The sequence of those two is irrelevant in my opinion. If you're looking to improve your tuning skills and your understanding of Oracle performance issues I would suggest the OP101. It has a very good balance of

Re: Moving Objects from One Tablespace to Another

2004-01-07 Thread N.Anand Kumar
This works well in ver 8 or higher how do we do in Oracle 7 version. Anand Kumar ITW Signode India Ltd - Original Message - To: LazyDBA.com Discussion Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:50 PM alter table emp move tablespace tbs2; Deepa Kale -DBA Jyoti Structures - Nasik(IT)

Re: Problem with understanding Optimization methods.

2004-01-07 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Check the costs of the two queries (autotrace will be sufficient). In this example, rule based uses the index because it exists and will return the right answer. Cost based works out that the scan and sort is cheaper. The cost of an index full scan is approximately blevel + leaf_blocks

Re: ORACLE-L Digest -- Volume 2004, Number 007 (Out of Office

2004-01-07 Thread Tony Miller
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OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Prem Khanna J
Hi List, this is the question . You are calculating the proper size for a temporary tablespace . Which of the following are two most important factors to consider ? A. users B. sort_area_size C. type of tablespace management D.

Rollback segment shrinkage

2004-01-07 Thread Satav, Pawan
Hi, Can anyone point pros/cons of shrinking a rollback segment ? (other than performance overheads associated with extent allocation and reallocation) Optimal is not set for my rollback segments. Recently I shrunk a rollback segments which had more than 100 extents allocated to it.

another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Prem Khanna J
Hi list , sorry to pester you with questions regarding boson OCP questions . i have scheduled for #1Z0-031 exam and so desperately need help from this list . please bear with me for while . look at the 2 questions below . -

Re: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Connor McDonald
I'm saving that for the Hotsos symposium --- Daniel W. Fink [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who cares about the profanity Do you a) pound nails in a squirrel and b) force David Kurtz to consume massive amounts of gin whilst lobbing Fosters at the audience? Connor McDonald wrote: I

Last date for Oracle 8i OCP?

2004-01-07 Thread katimbs
Title: Last date for Oracle 8i OCP? Does any one have an idea when is the last date to complete ORACLE 8i OCP exams? Is there any last date announced or yet to announce for Oracle 8i OCP? Thanks Sanyu

Re: Moving Objects from One Tablespace to Another

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
You have to apply mig to it. The sooner you do it, the better. Read database migration guide. On 2004.01.07 05:19, N.Anand Kumar wrote: This works well in ver 8 or higher how do we do in Oracle 7 version. Anand Kumar ITW Signode India Ltd - Original Message - To:

Re: Problem with understanding Optimization methods.

2004-01-07 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Apologies to the list. The previous reply may have been informative, but it was irrelevant. I failed to notice that the indexed access path was followed up by a table access by rowid. (This does explain why the index_FFS path wasn't used, of course). In this case, the cost of the indexed

RE: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: oaktable people You would fit right in fine in the North East US... I am also too direct for people sometimes! April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ \ \ \ \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite

RE: freebie. Summarize Oracle Listener logs

2004-01-07 Thread waibals
Hi Steve- Quite interested in having a go at it. Please send to me a copy asap. Cheers and regards, CSW Simon. -Original Message-From: Steve Perry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 6:29 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: freebie.

Re: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Foote
Hi Prem, Firstly, thank you for bringing back fond memories of when I used to teach this stuff for Oracle. If we ever meet one day, I'll show you my highlighter penned copy of the notes showing the various errors and inaccuracies (except the Performance Tuning course where I highlighted the

test

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan
switched emails. just testing.

Listen to Cary in Charlotte on Thursday

2004-01-07 Thread Murali Vallath
If you leave in and around the Charlotte area or in a reachable distance and have not heard throughthe user group'sregular e-mail invitations here is the opportunity. Cary presents for the Charlotte Oracle Users Group on Thursday January 8th - for more details visit www.cltoug.org Murali

Re: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Hello Prem, The syntax the question gives for DROP TABLESPACE doesn't look right to me. Without looking at the current docsgrin, I believe INCLUDING CONTENTS is a valid option, and that the others are invalid. Thus, answer B, the statement will fail, looks correct. Whoever wrote that test

RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Thater, William
Connor McDonald scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: I have to admit I like this stuff about Connor's book especially since I'm only a co-author for the thing :-) (And unlike my presentations, I promise that there is no profanity in the book...) oh damn.;-) -- Bill Shrek Thater

Re: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Foote
Hi again Prem, OK, I've changed my opinion of dear Boson. At first I simply thought they had no idea, now I suspect it's all a big joke designed to make DBAs have a bit of a giggle on warm summer nights ... Sizing the temp tablespace by the formula you've given is really quite witty. Perhaps a

Re: oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Foote
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:44 AM I resemble that remark! Aussies are ALWAYS great communicators, just a bit direct for some people sometime. :) Hi Pete, Me direct ??? Never !! Richard ;) -- Please see the official

Re: Listen to Cary in Charlotte on Thursday

2004-01-07 Thread Richard Foote
And if enough attend, Cary has promised to related the little tale of a certain rat called Rupert. Cary, dare ya !! Richard ;) - Original Message - From: Murali Vallath To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:59 PM Subject:

Re: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Jonathan, I successfully use drop tablespace including contents and datafiles all the time. And a quick check of the docs shows that cascade constraints is valid but, as Richard said, belongs at the end of the statement. As for the second question. DBA_SEGMENTS gives you the total allocated

Re: Last date for Oracle 8i OCP?

2004-01-07 Thread DEEDSD
The date has not been announced. I contacted The OCP folks late last month and they said that there has been no date set for ending the 8i OCP tests, nor was he aware of anything being said about it.

Re: oracle client on PC's

2004-01-07 Thread david davis
We do an install on the workstation but the installation has been packaged and is pushed I believe with SMS or at least it used to be done that way. From: Jeffrey Beckstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re:

Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 8:29:25 AM, Rachel Carmichael ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: RC I successfully use drop tablespace including contents and datafiles RC all the time. And a quick check of the docs shows that cascade RC constraints is valid but, as Richard said, belongs at the end of the RC

RE: Problem with understanding Optimization methods.

2004-01-07 Thread Goulet, Dick
Actually from what is given I'd expect the optimizer to select a full table scan in anycase, there's no where clause. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L You can

Re: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I didn't mean to scold... you post way more information than I usually do! And I answer whilst eating breakfast at times too :) Richard *is* right, the problem is, the sql statement is misformed but the answer key says it will work. Which is yet another reason I dislike the OCP exams. ---

FW: Error after resize of LMT

2004-01-07 Thread Sands, Robyn
--_=_NextPart_001_01C3D52C.273B9780 Content-Type: text/plain We've seen this error on one of our databases (9.2.0.3 on Win2003 Server). Haven't seen it on our other instances (9.2.0.3 on HP-UX). Robyn -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 11:50 AM To: Multiple

Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Prem Khanna J
Hi Richard , Many a thanx for both of your replies . All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? And your reply has increased my self-confidence. particularly the line : RFTrust what you *see*, not what you *read*. /RF RFYou actually proven this yourself and yet you

RE: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Goulet, Dick
Well, you've certainly gotten a few decent replies. I've never used Boson so I can't comment on their exams, I prefer going to Oracle Press. Anyway, sizing temp is a combination of things many of which are black magic at best. Number of users is an interesting variable to add, but

RE: Last date for Oracle 8i OCP?

2004-01-07 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
8i is slated for desupport at the end of December, in any case. Patrice -Original Message- Sent: January 7, 2004 9:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The date has not been announced. I contacted The OCP folks late last month and they said that there has been no date set

RE: Book (was) oaktable people

2004-01-07 Thread Gary Goodman
We may have to add a 'Mogens Nørgaard' profanity clause to the Symposium speaker agreement. I will admit that profanity from Connor does not carry the same impact as profanity from Mogens! Gary -Original Message- Connor McDonald Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 5:29 AM To: Multiple

Re: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan
A small but growing number of employers want certification. Considering the job market, I recommend anyone who is not at Rachel's, etc.. level to get certified as both a developer and a DBA. I'm doing Java also, just to have it. The java test is a total joke. You only need to get 52% right and its

RE: ora1652 question...

2004-01-07 Thread Norris, Gregory T [ITS]
1. Easier, but requires a bounce : Add the following event into init.ora event=1652 trace name processstate level 10 You should be able to set this dynamically as well (tested on 8.1.7). SQL alter system set events '1652 trace name processstate level 10'; System altered.

Re[3]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Prem Khanna J
Thanx for your reply Gennick. ..and for your word of caution about partitioned tables. Cary , sometime back said that : Cary There are always two answers to a question that your teacher would ask at school . First one is the right answer. Second one is the answer that your teacher

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Stefick Ronald S Contr ESC/HRIDA
Title: RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys Uh No one can be at Rachel's level. She's the DBA Goddess -Original Message- From: Ryan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re:

Re[3]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Prem Khanna J
Ryan People don't seem to be all that interested in Ryan whether you can actually do the job. Ryan , i would change your first line as Some people don't seem to ... Because some people really DO care about what one can do. Ryan They just assume your better than someone Ryan else if you have

Re: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Michael Abbey once said (I'm paraphrasing here) the resume and OCP get you in the door. It's your experience that gets you the job and keeps you there We've had numerous discussions on this list about interview questions. I've been on interviews where I spent an entire day (9-4) and talked to 11

Re[2]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Wednesday, January 7, 2004, 9:39:25 AM, Prem Khanna J ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: PKJ Many a thanx for both of your replies . PKJ All my worry is : do such questions appear in the real exams also ? I think you've hit on something key here, and that is that practice exams may not be reflective

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Thater, William
Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Oh yeah -- how does having a college degree in art history make a person a better DBA? how does my degree, which is in computer science but which is 28 years old, have anything to do with current programming and database work? it

Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Jesse, Rich
So I got two e-mails today from Oracle Support warning about Verisign Certs expiring today and to check MetaLink (thanks for the advanced warning guys). I've been trying for over an hour now and am getting no joy. Anyone know what the Verisign Certs are used for in Oracle products? I don't think

RE: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: Verisign and MetaLink Financials... if you use https and primarily if you are using 11i externally April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ \ \ \ \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age

RE: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
You may be surprised to find that the email came from a domain hosted/owned by tucows ... Domain Name: ORACLE-MAIL.COM Registrar: TUCOWS, INC. Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net Referral URL: http://www.opensrs.org Name Server: NS1.ORACLE.COM Name Server: NS4.ORACLE.COM Status: ACTIVE Updated

RE: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Jesse, Aren't these pieces of mail great? Talk about Spam. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:34 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L So I got two e-mails today from Oracle Support warning about Verisign Certs

RE: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Tim Onions
the ntoe I read talked about Oracle Wallets and SSL within Java _ Tim Onions Head of Oracle Development Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) ...the speech-to-data Application Service Provider Tel: +44.1684.312364 http://www.speechmachines.com -Original

RE: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-07 Thread Cary Millsap
Interesting. Of course, Gummi's right: I blew both my course URLs in my note. The correct URL for the PD101 coruse is http://www.hotsos.com/courses/PD101.php, too. Slow connection; didn't have time to check thoroughly; sorry for the inconvenience. Thanks, Gummi. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises,

Re: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan
degrees and ocps often do alot more than get you past the HR department. most jobs these days are short term temp jobs. temp companies offer you salary based mainly on your resume. most technical interviews are a joke. I can make more money if I double my experience level and have a computer

Re: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 01/07/2004 10:19:25 AM, Rachel Carmichael wrote: Oh yeah -- how does having a college degree in art history make a person a better DBA? how does my degree, which is in computer science but which is 28 years old, have anything to do with current programming and database work? Believe it

Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Robyn Anderson Sands
Per the doc on MetaLink, Oracle Wallet Manager and Sun Java JDK are affected by the Verisign certs. Here is some of the info: VeriSign Class 2 and Class 3 PCA root certificates are included in the Oracle Wallet Manager as well as Sun's Java JDK. These certificates will expire on January 7,

RE: Error after resize of LMT

2004-01-07 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Robyn - Thanks for replying. So what was the consequence of the error? What did you have to do to fix the problem? Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 8:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L This message

RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Cary Millsap
My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying what is correct? Or is it necessary to work harder to acquire some veneer of false knowledge specifically in order to pass the exam? Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance

RE: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Matthew Zito
Raj, It seems as though all of Oracle's names are registered through tucows - Tucows is simply the registrar, not the owner of the name. This is not at all uncommon, and in fact makes sense, given the large number of domain names under management for Oracle. Thanks, Matt -- Matthew Zito

Apple RAID marketing?

2004-01-07 Thread Jesse, Rich
So a co-worker sends me an e-mail about Apple's just-announced Xserve RAID with 3+TB for US $11K. After looking at Apple's page, I poo-poo it because it's 7.2K spin ATA/100 drives, which I figure would lead to all sorts of problems. I see today in Computerworld that it's being touted as blazing

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I do understand, and that's why I said that I tried to bring people in first, before HR (as you know) --- Thater, William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: Oh yeah -- how does having a college degree in art history make a person a better

RE: Listen to Cary in Charlotte on Thursday

2004-01-07 Thread Pete Sharman
But that will ruin Carys clean cut image forever more! (Trust me folks, Ive heard Richard tell this one before, and I never want to hear it again!) J Pete Controlling developers is like herding cats. Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook Oh no, it's not. It's much harder than

RE: Apple RAID marketing?

2004-01-07 Thread Goulet, Dick
Jesse, If they'll loan you one for a test period that test works out, Maybe. Now if your SAN vendor is worth his/her weight in salt then they'll have a way to connect that Xserve RAID system into their SAN. That way you get the best of both worlds. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA

merant drivers on citrix

2004-01-07 Thread Jeffrey Beckstrom
Found this note on Citrix web site: DataDirect does support the use of Connect for ODBC on Citrix Metaframe and Windows Terminal Server environments. Note that due to known problems with the Microsoft MSI Engine, the installation of Connect for ODBC is currently not supported through the

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Thater, William
Rachel Carmichael scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: I do understand, and that's why I said that I tried to bring people in first, before HR (as you know) yup, but most places don't have a Goddess on staff.;-) and i'm seeing the requirement for OCP being listed in consulting postings

Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan
for performance tuning exam you have to know some garbage. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:59 AM My question, Richard, is can a person pass the exam just by studying what is correct? Or is it

Re: Rollback segment shrinkage

2004-01-07 Thread Daniel Fink
Shrinking of rollback segments may result in ORA-1555s. If you need to shrink them, do so during a slow time. Not shrinking rollback segments may result in ORA-1562 unable to extend rbs. Satav, Pawan wrote: Hi, Can anyone point pros/cons of shrinking a rollback segment ? (other than

SAP Tablespace Conventions (WAS: Convert to LMTs)

2004-01-07 Thread Hand, Michael T
Jared, SAP does use default tablespace names as you have stated, but will allow you to move them to alternate locations and recommends it under certain conditions. We separated 10 or 12 of the tables that we thought would grow the fastest into dedicated tablespaces when we originally installed

Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
Misconceptions, superstitions and myths are always useful to know and believe in. They make people better socialized and the risk of being burnt at stake as a heretic(metaphorically, of course) is much lower. On 01/07/2004 10:59:26 AM, Cary Millsap wrote: Or is it necessary to work harder to

Re: Verisign and MetaLink

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I got them as well and managed to get into metalink -- seems to be connected to Advanced networking option Rachel --- Jesse, Rich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So I got two e-mails today from Oracle Support warning about Verisign Certs expiring today and to check MetaLink (thanks for the advanced

Re: Apple RAID marketing?

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
But then again, the DBA can get a free iPod, which is a good thing indeed. On 01/07/2004 10:59:50 AM, Jesse, Rich wrote: So a co-worker sends me an e-mail about Apple's just-announced Xserve RAID with 3+TB for US $11K. After looking at Apple's page, I poo-poo it because it's 7.2K spin ATA/100

RE: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-07 Thread Potluri, Venu (CT Appl Suppt)
Cary, So, I don't need to be completely proficient in SQL Optimization prior to enrolling in Performance Diagnosis 101? When if it all do you plan to offer these classes in New York, NJ area? Venu Potluri -Original Message- Cary Millsap Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:04 AM To:

RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
From past history: I passed the 8 and 8i exams without having done any work in either version, nor did I study for them. I used Jonathan's method of using later questions to infer the answer to earlier ones, in part. Marlene Theriault, an excellent DBA, took several tries to pass because she knew

Re: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Now I understand their use, I shall immediately go out and hire an art history major as the deparmental sacrifical lamb (and dartboard while we are at it) I'm still a hands-on DBA, although I have some paperwork responsibilities as well. Not management, other than my own work :) Rachel ---

RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
Wasn't it you, Cary, who got tought by his parents that every question has two answers: The right one and the one the teacher wants to hear? And you had to learn them both? That's merely what OCP is about, I think. Get a certificate to get hired, and get the proper knowledge to remain hired

data warehouse vs regular database??

2004-01-07 Thread Janet Linsy
Hi all, I have been working with Oracle 92. I have no experience with Oracle Warehouse. In my current company, I was told the database is a warehouse. I can connect to it using sql plus or pl/sql developer. The warehouse looks the same as the database I worked with before. How do I tell if a

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Loughmiller, Greg
Title: RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys brutal, absolutely brutal... Rachel, can ya out-source your sacrificial lamb for our use as well:-) -Original Message- From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 11:54 AM To: Multiple

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Goulet, Dick
Rachel, A few years ago I was offered a job by a defense contractor in the area who was looking for a DBA, but more importantly a DBA with a still active clearance. Well all was well in 90% of that company, except HR. Simple answer, no degree no job. I don't have the degree so they

Re: OCP Question (Perf Tuning)

2004-01-07 Thread Tanel Poder
What I have heard is that all the OCP questions are taken from the Oracle University Student Guide. After all, you wouldn't you expect the class to prepare you? Someone suggested that you think like a computer. Well, for the philosophy behind the exam, think like an organization, namely Oracle

RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Cary Millsap
Yes, I was the one. I was just wondering whether the OCP performance exam was really as bad as it used to be. I haven't seen it since whatever the things were called back in the early 90s. From some of what I've seen here, the answer is that yes it is the same. Not just philosophically the same,

RE: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Poras, Henry R.
or from the other side: the right one, and the one pig-headed students are convinced is right (even if you can incontrovertably demonstrate they are wrong). Does that make three answers? or two answers with three labels? Henry -Original Message- Carel-Jan Engel Sent: Wednesday, January

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Poras, Henry R.
what you lose in worth you gain in self-worth. Henry -Original Message- Ryan Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 10:55 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L degrees and ocps often do alot more than get you past the HR department. most jobs these days are short term temp jobs. temp

RE: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-07 Thread Cary Millsap
Venu, You are correct. The outcome of many problems you'll diagnose using the PD101 method is that you'll need to fix some SQL, but the point of PD101 is teaching you (1) how to make sure you're working on the right problem, and (2) how to forecast what kind of performance improvement you'll get

RE: Re[2]: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I know it makes no sense... but it has something to do with a (very) antiquated class system and the difference between white-collar workers and blue-collar workers and salary vs hourly wages for the non-US, the term white collar worker refers to office staff, who would wear a white shirt and tie

Re: data warehouse vs regular database??

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
prank If you enter the following query select 'Data Warehouse' from dual; and if the database responds with 'Data Warehouse', then your database is a DW database. /prank Data warehouses can be distinguished from their less noble cousins, the OLTP databases, by the way they're accessed and by

RE: data warehouse vs regular database??

2004-01-07 Thread Goulet, Dick
Janet, A data warehouse is a database. Now if the data warehouse has all of the data structures of the OLTP database and people are using those tables like one would expect, then your just using the same instance for both purposes, which is a recipe for disaster in my opinion. A data

Re: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan
how much of the material from these classes are in your book? - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 12:24 PM Venu, You are correct. The outcome of many problems you'll diagnose using the PD101 method is

RE: Hotsos' Classes

2004-01-07 Thread Cary Millsap
Ryan, Parts of the book are based upon the PD101 course. The book goes further in some areas than the PD101 course (queueing theory, V$ views), but then the course goes further in some areas than the book. The course discusses developments that have occurred since the publication of the book, and

Re: another OCP question -- help me guys

2004-01-07 Thread bulbultyagi
Hi list , sorry to pester you with questions regarding boson OCP questions . i have scheduled for #1Z0-031 exam and so desperately need help from this list . please bear with me for while . look at the 2 questions below . Don't apologize Prem, who else are you gonna call, ghostbusters? :)

Re: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread bulbultyagi
Prem , OCP has nothing to do with knowledge and nothing to do with the real world. So if you want to give OCP, forget what you know and humbly, play by its rules. Right now if your are serious about giving OCP exams then please enable suspension of disbelief , don't ask why and just mug up the

Re: data warehouse vs regular database??

2004-01-07 Thread Jared Still
The Ralph Kimball answer: A DW is a collection of data marts. A Data mart is typically a fact table surrounded by a collection of dimension tables. The Bill Inmon answer: A DW is a system designed to collect data from an enterprise for the purpose of creating data marts. It is not normally

RE: Apple RAID marketing?

2004-01-07 Thread Matthew Zito
It depends a lot on the workload - for DSS-esque systems with lots of sequential reads/writes, etc., the performance of the individual ATA spindles will probably be more than adequate. As another side note, at that price point, maybe you could afford to buy double the number of spindles you need

Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread M Rafiq
Env: Windows 2000/NT/HP-UX/Solaris/Linux Oracle Databases: 7.3 to 9.2.0.4 I am looking for any good product/option for centralized source code control. Any pointer or experiences shall be appreciated. Regards Rafiq _ Have fun

RE: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread Goulet, Dick
Source Safe Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Env: Windows 2000/NT/HP-UX/Solaris/Linux Oracle Databases: 7.3 to 9.2.0.4 I am looking for any good product/option

Re: Re[1]: OCP question from Boson practice tests

2004-01-07 Thread Ryan
the pl/sql exam is really bad too. It got worse from 8i to 9i. 10% of the exam was on DBMS_LOB and no other packages were touched? I had about 6-7 questions on parameter ordering. Its accurate, just useless. I thought the architecture test wasn't bad at all. The 8i backup and recovery one was

RE: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread Stephen.Lee
PVCS http://www.softlanding.com/merant/vm.htm I used this back when it was Intersolv that owned it. One useful thing about it was that the command line interface was well implemented so scripts to automate check in, check out, software builds, etc. could be written (and were written).

RE: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
We use PVCS ... oracle has SCM product ... if you intend to use source control for Forms/Reports etc, then I'd recommend Oracle SCM. Raj Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email

Re: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
Would it be lame if I suggested rcs or cvs? Those tools are standard. On 01/07/2004 01:49:26 PM, Goulet, Dick wrote: Source Safe Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message- Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 1:34 PM To: Multiple recipients of list

Re: ora1652 question...

2004-01-07 Thread Tanel Poder
Fewcomments inline: 1. Easier, but requires a bounce : Add the following event into init.ora event="1652 trace name processstate level 10" You can use alter system and dbms_system.set_ev in combination to force an event for all new and existing sessions, without a bounce (alter system

RE: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread M Rafiq
Hi All, Thanks for all your replies. Regards Rafiq Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2004 11:04:40 -0800 PVCS http://www.softlanding.com/merant/vm.htm I used this back when it was Intersolv that owned it. One useful

RE: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread Cary Millsap
WinCVS has worked well for us and several of our friends. www.wincvs.org If I recall correctly, it's free. Cary Millsap Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com Upcoming events: - Performance Diagnosis 101: 1/27 Atlanta - SQL Optimization 101: 2/16 Dallas - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March

RE: Any good product / option for Source code control

2004-01-07 Thread Jeff Herrick
PVCS is a nice tool, especially when combined with PVCSTracker for change management. VSS (Visual SourceSafe) and PVCS offer similar capabilities when compared side-by-side. PVCS has an (optional) promotion model that VSS doesn't have (although VSS Labels can 'fake' it). Both tools have a command

RE: Progress of an index rebuild

2004-01-07 Thread Craig Richards
How about v$session_longops Cheers From: Daniel Hanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Progress of an index rebuild Date: Tue, 06 Jan 2004 09:49:25 -0800 Is there any way to check on the progress of an index

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