SV: Date Format: Mystery

2004-01-30 Thread Jesper Haure Norrevang
Title: Meddelelse Rajesh, SYSDATE is of datatype DATE (that's what the documentation says), i.e. it contains century, year, month, day, hour, minute and second (without decimals). I have made a little test. FirstIdump a SYSDATE to see the internal representation. Then Icreate a table with

Re: [Q] wait time /lob def

2004-01-30 Thread Jonathan Lewis
Tanel, Oracle 9-2 SQL Ref manual. Lob storage clause. The options for lobs on creation are: CACHE NO CACHE CACHE READS I don't think the last one appeared until 9.2 I was wrong about caching only writes, though - one of the joys of trying to quote everything from memory. The CACHE

Re: [Q] wait time /lob def

2004-01-30 Thread Jonathan Lewis
It's just one example of my general suggestion that messing about with block sizes rarely has any direct performance benefit. But if you can put something out of the way where it can't do so much damage then the performance of everything else might benefit. Regards Jonathan Lewis

Re: [Q] wait time /lob def

2004-01-30 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi Jonathan, I don't think the last one appeared until 9.2 I was wrong about caching only writes, though - one of the joys of trying to quote everything from memory. Thank you for this note, I had somehow missed this important improvement. The CACHE READS option means that the LOB goes

SV: Date Format: Mystery

2004-01-30 Thread Jesper Haure Norrevang
Title: Meddelelse Sorry! I was mixingformat-masks. The last SQL should read (i.e. instead of ): select to_char(systimestamp, '.MM.DD HH24:MI:SS.'), dump(systimestamp) from dual; /Jesper -Oprindelig meddelelse-Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Re: [Q] wait time /lob def

2004-01-30 Thread ryan.gaffuri
i apologize if someone posted this answer(i missed it if you did), but why do cached lobs require writes on the control file? and jonathan said that isnt 'necessarily' bad. is that because there isnt alot of I/O? so caching lobs are primarily useful for read only or read 'mostly' LOBs?

Re: Re: [Q] wait time /lob def

2004-01-30 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi! i apologize if someone posted this answer(i missed it if you did), but why do cached lobs require writes on the control file? NOCACHE NOLOGGING LOBs require writes to controlfile, because last nologging operation to a datafile has to be reflected somewhere, for being able to determine which

Re: SV: Date Format: Mystery

2004-01-30 Thread Jonathan Gennick
Friday, January 30, 2004, 2:24:25 AM, Jesper Haure Norrevang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: JHN Certainly som conversion is going on here. This might be the reason why JHN there has been confusion about 7 or 8 bytes in a DATE datatype. That's really interesting, that switch between 7 and 8 bytes.

Re: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to start a

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas Day
Go to the SERVICES and start the service. Dharminder

Trigger question

2004-01-30 Thread roland . skoldblom
Hallo, I would like to write the code to atrigger that makes insert into another table inly if there is the condition PREFERED_NUMBER = 1 and TELEPHONE_TYPE_ID in (1,2, 5) How can write this in a simple way? Thanks in advance. Roland -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ:

dba_jobs nls_env

2004-01-30 Thread John Dunn
How does dba_jobs decide what it's nls_env values are?. They seem to vary according to whether I queue the job from a windows client or from unix. John -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Dunn INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services

Re: SV: Date Format: Mystery

2004-01-30 Thread Garry Gillies
Hi, From Note: 69028.1 on Metalink The datatype returned is 13 and not 12, the external DATE datatype. This occurs because we rely on the TO_DATE function! External datatype 13 is an internal c-structure whose length varies depending on how the c-compiler represents the structure. Note that

Re: Trigger question

2004-01-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 01/30/2004 09:29:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo, I would like to write the code to atrigger that makes insert into another table inly if there is the condition Oracle9i Application Developer's Guide - Fundamentals, Ch. 15. - Using Triggers. There are examples there, too. -- Please see

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to start a

2004-01-30 Thread Dharminder Softhome
Thomas, That is the real problem. I can start the database using Windows 2000 OracleServiceSID. But I want to start up the database using OEM only. Thanks. -Original Message- Thomas Day Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:19 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L start a Go to the

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Dharminder, Changes the service to AutoStart when the machine reboots. As Thomas said, the NT service has to be running for you to be able to start the database. The service will stay running even if you shut the database down. Think of the service as a backgrouond placeholder for the database.

RE: [Fwd: ! READ THIS - Oracle-L@fatcity.com is shutting down as

2004-01-30 Thread Thater, William
Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: A repost of a previous message. This is the last day for this address folks. good-bye fatcity my old friend, won't get to talk to you again... -- Bill Shrek Thater ORACLE DBA I'm going to work my ticket if I can... -- Gilwell

Re: [Fwd: ! READ THIS - Oracle-L@fatcity.com is shutting down as

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Testa
last post(its kinda like first post on slashdot.org) joe Thater, William wrote: Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon: A repost of a previous message. This is the last day for this address folks. good-bye fatcity my old friend, won't get to talk to you again... -- Bill

RE: [Fwd: ! READ THIS - Oracle-L@fatcity.com is shutting down as

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas Day
So, is anyone posting on the new list? I believe that I'm subscribed there but I'm only getting fatcity posts. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Thomas Day INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com

Re: [Fwd: ! READ THIS - Oracle-L@fatcity.com is shutting down as

2004-01-30 Thread Tanel Poder
Jared, I think you should ask the maintainers of orafaq.com to update their information about oracle-l as well, it's the first hit in google when you search for oracle-l. Tanel. - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30,

Changes to RULE based optimizer between Oracle8 and 9i

2004-01-30 Thread Keith Moore
We move an application that uses OPTIMIZER_MODE=RULE from Oracle8 to 9i. Most of it is fine, but there are two queries that have a very different execution plan. In one case, the execution time increases from less than a minute to more than an hour. Neither query uses any of the new Oracle

RE: Changes to RULE based optimizer between Oracle8 and 9i

2004-01-30 Thread Bobak, Mark
Title: Message Keith, To my knowledge, RBO has not changed. That includes NOT dealing w/ IOT. So, I think if you execute a query that references an IOT, you'll implicitly invoke the CBO. That would explain why the plan is changing. So, did you change a table from heap to IOT when you moved

Re: [Fwd: ! READ THIS - Oracle-L@fatcity.com is shutting down as

2004-01-30 Thread Jared . Still
Thanks Tanel, Frank is on top of it already. Jared Tanel Poder [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/2004 08:24 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To:Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: [Fwd: ! READ THIS - [EMAIL

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Jared . Still
The Windows service implements Oracle's VOS ( virtual OS ) This is not noticed on *versions, as there is no separate step. See James Morle's book 'Scaling Oracle 8i'. Jared Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/30/2004 07:44 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L

Re: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to start a dedicated ....

2004-01-30 Thread VĂ©lez
There is not enough memory to start a dedicated connection. sochange the server mode from dedicated to shared, (you can do it change some parameters in init_sid.ora file see oracle documentation). If you are going to change the server mode to shared and you have two databaseon the same machine,

RE: Changes to RULE based optimizer between Oracle8 and 9i

2004-01-30 Thread Goulet, Dick
Logic says one thing, experience says another. Question one, are the tables analyzed? If so, since RBO is deprecated in 9i even setting OPTIMIZER_MODE=RULE will invoke the CBO. Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i DBA -Original Message-From: Keith Moore

** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread A Joshi
Hi, In view v$log there is a column status. This changes from current (if the redo log is in use) to atcive then to inactive. Documentation says : ACTIVE: The log is active but is not the current log. It is needed for crash recovery. It may be in use for block recovery. It might or might not be

Re: ** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
On 01/30/2004 01:24:26 PM, A Joshi wrote: Hi, In view v$log there is a column status. This changes from current (if the redo log is in use) to atcive then to inactive. Documentation says : ACTIVE: The log is active but is not the current log. It is needed for crash recovery. It may be in use

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to start a dedicated ....

2004-01-30 Thread Dharminder Softhome
Mauricio I do not think it is a memory issue because I can startup the database using Windows 2000 OracleServiceSID service and it does not fail. Thanks. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Mauricio VilezSent: Friday, January 30,

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Dharminder Softhome
Tom, As stated earlier, here the intention is to startup the database using OEM only and without using windows service. As for as I understand if the OracleServiceSID is properly setup and if startmode for the service is set to automatic then it will startup the database automatically once you

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Thomas Day
That's true. Dharminder

Re: ** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread David Hau
There is a pretty good explanation in this usenet thread:

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
Well, you can't. Windows is different from other systems in that you have these services that have to be running in the background. Once the services are running, you can use OEM to shutdown and startup the database. But the service has to be running first. Sorry. Have you looked at OEM Jobs?

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Igor Neyman
Dharminder, OracleServiceSID starts the database automatically, because by default the registry key ORA_SID_AUTOSTART IN HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\HOME0 is set to TRUE. If you don't want your OracleServiceSID to start the database automatically, change the value to FALSE. This way

Re: ** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread A Joshi
Mladen, Thanks for info. So all the dirty blocks need to be written to disk after eachcheckpoint. After that is donethe status becomes 'INACTIVE'. Just that sometimes this is very unpredictable. My question : Ifa log switch always causes a implicit checkpoint then what is the need for this

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
-Original Message- Igor Neyman OracleServiceSID starts the database automatically, because by default the registry key ORA_SID_AUTOSTART IN HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\HOME0 is set to TRUE. If you don't want your OracleServiceSID to start the database automatically, change

Re: ** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread Mladen Gogala
David Hau explained this much better and in much more clear fashion then me. Here is the most important part from the usenet thread he was referring you to: ** This makes sense if you think about where the various v$ dynamic

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Dharminder Softhome
Igor, What you have mentioned is right i.e. if I set ORA_SID_AUTOSTART to FALSE for the database in question and set OraceServiceSID startmode to Automatic then as windows starts it starts the OracleSID service (or I should say background services needed for the database to run and I believe I

RE: Starting Database from OEM 9.2 gives ORA-12500 Failed to star

2004-01-30 Thread Igor Neyman
Yes, I'm sure. If in the services control panel you change OracleServiceSID starup properties, it does not affect ORA_SID_AUTOSTART key in HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\ORACLE\HOME0 (and does not change the way the database is started when the service is started). What it does, it changes the

Re: ** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread A Joshi
Thanks Mladen and David It is great to get such detailed info. If we take your example of three redo logs then you could have a situation where one is is 'CURRENT' status and two are in 'ACTIVE' status. As follows : GROUP# STATUS-- 1 ACTIVE2 CURRENT3 ACTIVE Now if group

UTL_FILE question

2004-01-30 Thread Viktor
Hello, Ihave a procedure that open a cursor anddumps some data for last 24 monthsto a file. The date range is static condition definedinside the cursor. Procedure is working great, but Iwhat I'm havingproblemfiguring outisif there is a way to create not one file with all the data, but multiple

Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread Jared . Still
bye...

Re: Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Testa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 last post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | bye... - -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting 614-791-9000 It's all about the CACHE -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with

RE: Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread Chris Stephens
NOO!! -Original Message- Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 7:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 last post [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | bye... - -- Joseph S Testa Chief Technology Officer Data Management Consulting

RE: Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
It's the end of an era. How long was the list hosted here? -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jacques Kilchoer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and

ORA-01722 invalid number

2004-01-30 Thread Teresita Castro
I am running a query: select from WHERE COMPANY=2000 AND LOCATION='CDJ01' AND ITEMLOC.ACTIVE_STATUS='A' AND POVAGRMTLN.PROCURE_GROUP='SMAR' AND RTRIM(LTRIM(POVAGRMTLN.VEN_AGRMT_REF)) = 'COM1-21-LARROC NANCY' AND RTRIM(LTRIM(POVAGRMTLN.VENDOR))='21' and in the next part of the where

Re: ** v$log.status

2004-01-30 Thread Hemant K Chitale
LGWR will always write to the redo-logs in a round-robin fashion. So, on completing Group2, it would wait for Group3 to be INACTIVE. {One exception is when you ADD a new Log Group. If you added a new log file without specifying a Group#, it would be allocated Group#4, would be set to status

RE: Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread Paula_Stankus

Re: ORA-01722 invalid number

2004-01-30 Thread Wolfgang Breitling
My guess would be that company is not a number but because you do compare it to a number company=2000 Oracle does an implicit conversion to_number(company)=2000 and that fails when it hits a row where company is not numeric. If my guess is right try company='2000' At 07:59 PM 1/30/2004, you

Re: ORA-01722 invalid number

2004-01-30 Thread Joe Testa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 last post Wolfgang Breitling wrote: | My guess would be that company is not a number but because you do | compare it to a number company=2000 Oracle does an implicit | conversion to_number(company)=2000 and that fails when it hits a | row where

RE: Bye...

2004-01-30 Thread nelson flores
drop list ORACLE-[EMAIL PROTECTED] \rm r FATCITY bye -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 5:24 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Bye... bye...