RE: Little competition

2003-12-11 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Good points Jonathan,

The 'box' as far as I'm concerned was accomodated by v7.3.4. That had 95% of
the features anyone could want for most environments. After that we've had a
succession of 'nice to have' features.
Don't get me wrong, some environments absolutely demand these new features
and there's a living to be made in understanding all of the new bells and
whistles but I agree that most people don't use more than a tiny subset of
the available toys.

Mike Hately

PS Yes, I'm aware that there will follow a list of post-7.3.4 features that
people consider absolutely vital.  =)

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Maybe I'm wrong here, but I don't
believe Oracle has put together the simplified DBA manual
yet, and perhaps maybe they should. What do you think?
Should Oracle define the box and write a manual for
customers who want to live within that box?

Best regards,

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RE: Dblink fails between 8.1.7 (Unix) and 9i (Zos 390) due to inv

2003-12-10 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Clive,
during the upgrade has the global_names parameter somehow been changed from
false to true?
This would cause the connection to be refused if the link name does not
match the global_name for the target database.
 
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Since upgrading our mainframe database to 9.2.0.1.0.25 a dblink between a
Unix box (8.1.7.0) and the mainframe fails. 
However sqlplus using the same connection syntax Connect
username/[EMAIL PROTECTED] is fine. 
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RE: java package to run OS command

2003-12-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
One I've used in the past was supplied by Tom Kyte :

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:4723489521562622951::NO::F4950_P
8_DISPLAYID,F4950_P8_CRITERIA:952229840241,

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I need a java package that will allow me to run OS commands(Unix) from a
stored procedure.

Anyone got one?


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RE: when do you use v$statname?

2003-11-27 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Agreed. Tongue firmly in cheek there.

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:)

Btw, I advise against memorizing statistic numbers, because they change over
versions...

Tanel.

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 v$statname is a lookup table for the statistic# that appears in v$sesstat
 and v$sysstat. You use it in most queries on those tables unless you're
 named Tanel and have memorised the statistic numbers.  =)

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 This view seems to be a smaller subset of v$sysstat? When is it useful?

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RE: when do you use v$statname?

2003-11-26 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
v$statname is a lookup table for the statistic# that appears in v$sesstat
and v$sysstat. You use it in most queries on those tables unless you're
named Tanel and have memorised the statistic numbers.  =)

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This view seems to be a smaller subset of v$sysstat? When is it useful? 

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RE: RE: when do you use v$statname?

2003-11-26 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Good point. I'd forgotten that. Just a lookup for v$sesstat then.

Cheers,
Mike

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both store that info

SQL  desc v$statname
 Name  Null?Type
 - 

 STATISTIC# NUMBER
 NAME   VARCHAR2(64)
 CLASS  NUMBER

SQL desc v$sysstat
 Name  Null?Type
 - 

 STATISTIC# NUMBER
 NAME   VARCHAR2(64)
 CLASS  NUMBER
 VALUE  NUMBER



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RE: Re[2]: redhat/oracle

2003-11-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
RHAS Developer Edition, £40 a pop for download. Best money I've spent this
year.

Mike Hately

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Tuesday, November 4, 2003, 10:14:25 AM, you wrote:
JT What I dont like about Suse is no ISOs unless you're willing to pay for JT the 
software.  maybe i'll just buy the WS version and write it off on my

JT taxes to run oracle on., hmm

This is something I'm struggling with. I want to run Oracle
on my lab systems, but I can't really afford to part with
the $1500 or so that RH Enterprise costs. Oracle nicely
makes their software free for learning, etc. Red Hat,
unfortunately, does not.

I think Red Hat's strategy makes a certain amount of sense
though. They've identified a niche that will pay handsomely,
compared to what your average consumer will pay, for Linux.
Why not focus on that market?

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WHERE 1 = 1 (any info on this)

2003-10-21 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Morning folks,

the developers here are looking at a view with a where clause which
specifies :

WHERE 1=1 AND
 ... AND
 ... etc.

I'd seen this used before as a way of tweaking the RBO into certain
behaviours but it was years ago and my recollection is very hazy. 
The only explanation I've found so far is :

the 1=1 is in there to avoid doing repetitive index scans for single
rowids, when the app knows the result set is going to be manipulated
rowid's for a large subset of the table. I would guess your DUAL/CBO example
had some similar effect.

Is anyone familiar enough with this tweak to explain it ?

Cheers,
Mike

PS Maybe it'll head off some replies if I make it clear that this view
hasn't been generated by code so the 1=1 isn't an accidental artifact It
was custom written and is definitely supposed to have exactly this
structure.








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RE: Cache a table

2003-10-21 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Hi,

I'm sure you know this but you had some finger trouble there. Just to
clarify it for others; Tables with the CACHE option are placed at the Most
Recently Used end of the LRU list.

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Never. Altering the table to cache does not gurantee that it will be always
be available in the cache. It simply means the table will be placed in the
Least recently used end of the LRU list and it will age away as time goes
by, just like any other table.

A better approach is to use KEEP pool and place teh table (and all other
tables that are accessed frequently) there. This is particualrly true for
datawarehouses wherethe lookup tables or small dimension tables can be
placed in KEEP pool.

Ah, come tho think about it, actually there is one situation where I will
consider the CACHE option, when I restart the instance and want the hit
ratio to look good :)

HTH.

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 Hi all,

 when you would consider to put a table a cache...

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RE: WHERE 1 = 1 (any info on this)

2003-10-21 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
OK, here's the interesting thing. At 8.1.6.3 with optimizer_mode=rule the
statement I'm looking at returns very different explain plans depending on
whether the 1=1 clause is included. It's a complicated join and the
explain plans are over 300 lines so it's not easy to see what's happening.
I'll try with a simpler join. 
And yes, I know the RBO is ancient technology these days. =)

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I'm pretty sure the optimizer can pick up 1=1 anyway
and ignore it as an always-true condition - so you get
no benefit.

The most common cause I've seen for 1=1 is so when
developers are building dynamic where-clause, they
don't need to worry about adding 'where' versus 'and'
to the sql string being constructed.

hth
connor

 --- Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Morning folks,
 
 the developers here are looking at a view with a
 where clause which
 specifies :
 
 WHERE 1=1 AND
  ... AND
  ... etc.
 
 I'd seen this used before as a way of tweaking the
 RBO into certain
 behaviours but it was years ago and my recollection
 is very hazy. 
 The only explanation I've found so far is :
 
 the 1=1 is in there to avoid doing repetitive index
 scans for single
 rowids, when the app knows the result set is going
 to be manipulated
 rowid's for a large subset of the table. I would
 guess your DUAL/CBO example
 had some similar effect.
 
 Is anyone familiar enough with this tweak to explain
 it ?
 
 Cheers,
 Mike
 
 PS Maybe it'll head off some replies if I make it
 clear that this view
 hasn't been generated by code so the 1=1 isn't an
 accidental artifact It
 was custom written and is definitely supposed to
 have exactly this
 structure.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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RE: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- was RE: RE: Separate

2003-10-16 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
 




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RE: re Rebuilding Indexes in Oracle Apps -- was RE: RE: Separate

2003-10-16 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Correction. Paragraph 4 should begin, I agree though that index rebuilds
are often unnecessary.
 
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All of that is fair enough but the number of rows and the values you've
chosen fit the point you wished to prove. The value 5 conveniently fits
the range for an existing leaf block with empty space. 
 
The facts as I understand them are this :
Index space freed by deleted entries can be reused ( by subsequent
transactions ) so long as the indexed value 'belongs' in the leaf block
which has free space.
Index leaf blocks are only placed back on the free list when they are empty
of entries.
 
This means that given a constantly incrementing index value no free space
will be reused unless whole index blocks are emptied by deletes. This is
fine for working tables which are constantly filled and (totally) emptied
but it can lead to large indexes for tables which preserve small amounts os
data across the range of keys. Such monotonically increasing key values are
pretty common in my experience.
 
I agree though that index rebuilds are often necessary. For a while now
we've had useful commands like coalesce that could combine logically
adjacent, sparsely populated leaf blocks at far less cost than a rebuild. 
 
Regards,
Mike Hately
 

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Hi Rafiq,
 
I haven't been receiving all the mail from this list so I don't know the
full thread and it doesn't appear a mail I sent a few days ago regarding all
this ever made it so I could be wasting my time again. But everytime I see
comments as in the above, a voice in my head says do something, do
something. So I'll try again.
 
Having lots of deletes and inserts of course doesn't necessarily mean
fragmentation. These so-called holes are fully re-usable and in the vast
majority of cases results in no substantial issues. Having lots of deletes,
inserts and updates rarely requires the index to be rebuilt.
 
Simple little demo for any newbies or those force-fed Oracle myths since
child birth ...
 
 
demo snipped on space grounds - Mike Hately
 
With few exceptions (the key is picking those rare cases), index rebuilds
are redundant, wasteful and can actually be detrimental to performance. 
 
Cheers
 
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RE: Where can I download 10g ?

2003-10-16 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Best plan at the moment is :

1) Wait patiently for between 3 and 10 months (anyone got an accurate rumour
for a release date?).
2) Download from Technet.

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RE: Financials and APPS password

2003-10-15 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
I could be missing something here. If you set the profile option
Utilities:Diagnostics to YES users are allowed to enable trace on a
session without having to provied the APPS password.

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April,

  We lost this battle with our developers - they have the password, along
with strict instructions to behave.
  Nobody else should have the password to any of the schemas (APPS, GL, INV,
etc.).  We create logins for users that need them and grant the necessary
rights to objects.  As you know, APPS can do just about anything in the
database, so you're asking for trouble if you let the whole company in
there.  Chances are you already have some objects in that schema like
MICROSOFTDTPROPERTIES.

Jay

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Okay, anyone using Financials... E-Business suite... Oracle 11i... whatever
you want to call it... 
 
I am trying to apply SOME kind of security to my databases.  It appears that
it is critical for everyone to be able to access production using the APPS
id Finance and accounting people, developers, everyone.  What does
everyone else do in their setups?  The newest reason is the need to run the
new Mass Additions Trace which apparently requires that you use the apps id.
We have found a way to set up any user with a read only version of what APPS
has (since they have to be able to compile reports in production and access
production data live rather than a month old clone), but Oracle says that
you need to run Mass Additions Trace as apps.
 
Does anyone let the entire company have the production apps user's password?
 

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RE: Financials and APPS password

2003-10-15 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
I thought it must be that. You know I've looked at the script and I'll be
damned if I can see why you neeed to be connected as APPS. The argument
seems to be that of the schema owners associated with Oracle Applications
only APPS can be guaranteed to have select access on the DBA_* views. 
Note 155669.1 reads Please be sure to log in as the APPS user as this trace
will not work correctly without access to DBA tables.

To my mind this would run fine from a 'cloned' user.

Cheers,
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sorry... my bad. 
The script in question is apparently a trace generation script that is to be
run from sqlplus 
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RE: RE: Cary's Book - new topic

2003-10-09 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
But what !? 
 
Wedding bells?
 
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RE: RE: Unintentional Humor ( aka Robert's Book )

2003-10-08 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Without wishing to start another Cary's Fabled Book thread, I've got my
copy of 10G Features on order.

BTW I should mention I found Cary's book in Leeds at the weekend and it is,
as trailed in this very group, a beauty.

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Oracle10g New Features is coming to a book store near you soon!!

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RE: x$ constructs and memory

2003-09-29 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
As I understand it, the X$ information is largely a window onto the control
structures in shared memory rather than a summary, aggregation or
abstraction. I may be wrong here but that's the way I've always understood
it to work. So the structures 'occupy' the same space as the data they're
supposed to reflect.

If I'm wrong I'd be interested to know the true story.

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I was sitting on a mountain here in Colorado, pondering Oracle
optimization and an interesting scenario crossed my feeble mind.
As I began to ponder this (I asked the resident marmot, but he
must be a SQL*Server expert...), I came up with several
questions.

Where in memory (sga or other) do the x$ constructs reside?
Some of them are 'populated' by reading file-based structures
(control file, datafile headers, undo segments). Does this
information reside in memory or is it loaded each time the x$
construct is accessed?
What happens when these x$constructs begin to consume large
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RE: OT Re: RE: What is a large database?

2003-09-12 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Hmm, applied Feng Shui for Oracle Performance.

For optimum throughput storage should be coloured red and white in
alternating bands of colour.
It's called disk-striping.

Badummp-k !!

I'll get me coat ... and back on topic.

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LOL, Mauve is a shade of the colour Purple.

And of course, everybody knows that purple databases run faster! ;)

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RE: Oracle 11i

2003-09-11 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Heh, 
notice the phrase next to nothing. I didn't get it free but I got it for
about 28 pounds plus postage and handling. Compared to the price of ordering
up a standard product that's a fairly reasonable price. 
Sorry if I wasn't very clear on that point.

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Thanks, Mike.  It still asks me to provide billing info when I tried to 
order the CD Packs.  How did you get it for free?

Nancy


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Nancy,
look in the Oracle Store. You can buy it for next to nothing.
Click the CD Packs tab, choose the platform you want, select 11i Release 9.

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Mike Hately

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I would like to evaluate Oracle 11i.  Could any body let me know what are
pros and cons between Oracle 11i and Oracle Collaboration Suite?  Is there
any place where I can download Oracle 11i and related documents for trial?
I can not find them on Oracle web site.

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RE: 9.2.0.4 anyone

2003-09-11 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
It's available as a patch from Metalink.
 
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Where? I can only see 9.2.0.2 on the otn download site.. 

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RE: how can I see which database I am logged into without

2003-09-11 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Hi,
this statement returns the GLOBAL_NAME value rather than the database name. 
Admittedly the 2 should usually be the same but often (following a database
clone for instance) it is not correctly set.

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 How about SELECT ORA_DATABASE_NAME FROM DUAL;
 
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  select sys_context('USERENV','DB_NAME') from anytable;
 
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RE: Oracle 11i

2003-09-10 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Tanel,
the 11.5.9 docs ask you to get in touch if you're interested in a DVD
release. It doesn't sound like it's actually available but they must be
gauging interest for future releases.

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snipped for clarity - apologies

You can't download 11i, you can order it for evaluation from Oracle, it's
about 50 CD (when the heck will they put it on DVD?), 


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RE: Oracle 11i

2003-09-10 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Nancy,
look in the Oracle Store. You can buy it for next to nothing.
Click the CD Packs tab, choose the platform you want, select 11i Release 9.

Cheers,
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I would like to evaluate Oracle 11i.  Could any body let me know what are 
pros and cons between Oracle 11i and Oracle Collaboration Suite?  Is there 
any place where I can download Oracle 11i and related documents for trial?  
I can not find them on Oracle web site.

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RE: Oracle 11i

2003-09-10 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
I think they're available on most hardware platforms now. I don't know how
many sites would back-order parts to replace CD drives but it's probably
worth specifying them for new kit.
I'd be interested in DVDs even if it's just for piloting new releases on
Linux at home.

For the record I think that a couple of the newer Sun boxes here have DVD
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Just wondering... How many UNIX servers can read DVDs?

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RE: Oracle 11i

2003-09-10 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Ha! Tell me about it. I'm at the tail end of an upgrade. Just applying the
unified driver to bring all of the products bang up to date. 
Just when you think you're on the home straight. A driver file with 920,000
lines that starts 71,000 scripts. 

It's enough to start me drinking!

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Both 11.5.8 and 11.5.9 are 22 CDs, totalling about 12Gb.  If you start with
11.5.8 or below, you'd also want to download the 11.5.9 patch anyway, which
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RE: Oracle 11i

2003-09-10 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
April,
 
Nothing disastrous has happened actually (touch wood!) which was a surprise.
We're going from 11.0.3 so I've seen things that no man should ever have to
see.   =)
 
Mostly small data fixes specific to us. I'll let you know if we get a fix to
this current problem.
Feel free to get in touch if you hit any problems. I'll trawl through my
issues folder and forward anything that I think you may hit. 
 
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Anything break badly? 

We are going to be starting in about a month down the 11.5.8 - 11.5.9 road.


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Just when you think you're on the home straight. A driver file with 920,000 
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RE: Friday at the coding face...

2003-08-29 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
My score :
10/10 Your liver is safe  =)

What worries me most is that I named the majority of the serial killers but
didn't recognise any coders. Maybe I'm in the wrong job.

regards,
Mike


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This week a game was brought to the attention of the Round-Up which
perfectly sums up the image crisis besieging IT.

Can you tell which of these mugshots are programmers and which are serial
killers?
http://www.malevole.com/mv/misc/killerquiz/ 

It's actually quite difficult (not to mention scary to realise there is very
little to choose between mass murderers and techies).


( hope this 'off topic' is acceptable within the spirit of Friday
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RE: dbca and finish button

2003-08-19 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
John,

are you seeing any java errors in the window you used to start the DBCA?

There's a problem where the installer can stick at this point. It's
described in Tech. Note 131761.1 on MetaLink. Effectively there's a problem
in the listener.ora (an ADDRESS entry with no HOST entry) that causes DBCA
to choke. kind of an old error but you never know!

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RE: ORA-3113

2003-08-14 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Unfortunately he's rebooted so the box is probably clean.

Did all of your products relink successfully?

Are there any errors in the OS system logs?

Would any of the patches have changed you kernel settings for shared memory
or semaphores?

Can you run the HP equivalent of truss (I believe it's tusc) to see what
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left over memory segments/shared memory/semaphores?

ipcs is your friend, oh and its destructive brother ipcrm :)

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RE: ORA-3113

2003-08-14 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Any log file output?

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Applied 250 OS patches on HP-UX 11.11 server and after that getting
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sysdba. This database holds RMAN catalog for more than 30 databases and
really very critical. Please share your ideas.

I already tried to relink and rebooting the server.

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RE: Question on views

2003-08-14 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Stephen,

Traditional views don't go stale though they can be made invalid if the
underlying objects change. This shouldn't really be happening on a regular
basis unless the schema is changing rapidly. 
He may be using a materialized view. These can go stale. Before going any
further ask him which of these is the cause and get the name of the view. 
I'd have thought that if a materialized view was created by his application
then it's his responsibility.

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I just had a contractor tell me that the problem with my Diabetic
detection and
Listing 'feature' in their product (Integrated Clinical Database, ICDB)
is because the
'view' crafted for that detection is going 'stale'.

I admit that most my SQL design experience is in MSSQL's T-SQL although
I'm starting to come up to speed on SQL*Plus, anyway, the above
explanation provided to be from the TriCare guy seems bogus.

Simply put there are four or five good Lab Chemistry parameters one
could use in a SQL select statement to determine if a patient is
diabetic or a diabetic candidate without having specific ICD9 diagnosis
coding that declares the patient diabetic.

A select statement returns a cursor of data that meets the selection
criteria and on MSSQL is a static snapshot of what is in the database at
the time the query was executed.  Thus, if a patient had parameters that
met diabetic conditions stored in the database over the past year, how
can a view go 'stale'?  Is this just a Oracle peculiarity or am I
getting a smoke screen as I suspect?

v/r

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RE: Capacity Planning Methods?

2003-08-14 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Come on Brad, this is the guy's wife you're talking about !!

=)

Mike

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EWWAH! Morgan FairchildYUK!



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blush  Let's just say it's the same as Jared's...Yeah, that's it!  The
very same!  And my wife, Morgan Fairchild, whom I've seen naked.

sigh  When you don't update those old scripts with newer versions of
Oracle they really look old and convoluted.


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RE: UNDO Tablespace

2003-08-12 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
The answer for this from our vendor is to increase the size
 of the UNDO based on their DBAs statement that UNDO is consumed rapidly
 because every query makes a physical copy of all tables and holds on to
 them for the retention period.

Sherrie,
In my considered opinion: Woohoohoohoo.
That's a ridiculous thing for a DBA to say. I hope he was misinterpreted
somewhere down the line because otherwise he's got a very flimsy grasp of
the read-consistency model.
In very simple terms Undo is used to hold a copy of any changed data (not
the whole table!) which has not been committed and flushed to the datafiles.
While it's there the data for an update transaction is available a) to the
'owning' transaction in case it has to ROLLBACK the updates it's made.  b)
to any other transactions which need to reconstruct the data as it was
before the update began.

On a more positive note I agree that we need the text of the error message
in order to give some help.

Cheers,
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 I have a 2gb UNDO tablespace.  A third-party application continually runs
 out of UNDO when it joins two tables to produce a result table.  Our
 retention time is set to 15 minutes, the NoSpaceErrCnt in V$UNDOSTAT is
 always zero.  The answer for this from our vendor is to increase the size
 of the UNDO based on their DBAs statement that UNDO is consumed rapidly
 because every query makes a physical copy of all tables and holds on to
 them for the retention period.  I can find nothing that discusses exactly
 how UNDO physically works, and am not sure that this can be true.  That
 would mean that every user querying our database would have copies of the
 tables in the UNDO, and I'd need about a gazillion gb to handle that.
Does
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RE: [stupid] vi question

2003-08-06 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Type 
: (to get the command prompt at the bottom of the screen)
Then type
%s/^M//

and press enter. Note that you get ^M by pressing Ctl/V followed by
Ctl/M.

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Suddenly my vi editor is showing ^M at the end of each line. How do I
get rid of it?

Thanks in advance,
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
something like ...

set feed off
set echo off
set pages 0

select 'alter table '||table_name||' move tablespace NEW_TS;'
from user_tables
where table_name like 'ABC_%'

spool move_tables.sql
/
spool off

would generate you a script to move your tables.

Cheers,
Mike

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I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
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RE: Move selected tables

2003-08-04 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Bugger. I missed the schema bit didn't I. 

Never mind, back to the drawing board ...

Mike

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I need to move selected tables from one schema to another schema within
the same database.  The tables I need to move all start with the same
prefix (abc_sometablename).  Say there are 200 tables out of 1000 that I
want to move.  Is there an easy way to do this?

Thanks!
Ron



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RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE

2003-08-01 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
 it is stupid.  Why grab the
memory from the os but never use it.


stephen.


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 Hi,

 does anybody have any experience with setting the SGA_MAX_SIZE in 9i.

 I assumed the purpose of this parameter was that SGA would grow as
 requested to that limit.

 Example:
 You could configure your SGA to be 80M
 Set the SGA_MAX_SIZE to be 250M.

 I would have expected oracle to acquire 80M of memory from the UNIX
 machine.

 In fact using ipcs you can see  that oracle will always acquire the value
 of SGA_MAX_SIZE.

 It acquires the extra space in the Variable Size of the SGA

  Figures snipped for brevity - Mike Hately


 I have raised a lengthy call on Metalink and the consultants are
convinced
 this is normal behaviour and what you would expect.

 Do people agree with the metalink consultants?

 Maybe my expectations were to high but I thought a dynamic sga would mean
I
 could change the amount of memory acquired by the UNIX box.

 All opinions welcome. I am on tru64 platform -  9.2.0.3.0

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RE: Redo Logs Problem

2003-08-01 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Hi,
you may be able to identify the sessions that are generating a lot of redo
by running this query. It will list the amount of redo generated by eash
session.

select s.sid,s.value
 from v$sesstat s
where s.statistic#=99
and s.value!=0

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Hi Listers,

One of my remote Clients is facing a problem with Redo Logs. The Redo Logs
and the Archive logs in turn have suddenly started to generate at an
alarming Rate. This has suddenly started from the last 1 week without any
changes to Database Configuration or any other system settings (as per
client).

Can anyone please help me and let me know all the reasons that could be
responsible for this behavior. Any Help from u will be appreciated.

Regards

Munish Bajaj



 



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RE: Imort Parameter File Question

2003-07-31 Thread Hately, Mike (LogicaCMG)
Had a couple of minutes so ...
The syntax you need is (cryptically enough) :

# Comment

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Jay - I don't think the exp and imp parameter files have provision for a
comment. But you could try common comment formats and see if you find one
that works. The person who wrote the parser might have added that but it
didn't end up in the documentation. I notice testing is a habit of the more
expert members of this list.

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Hello:

Does anyone know if you can create a comment in a import parameter file?

If so could you provide a sample of the syntax.
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