RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Thanks Kirti ...

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Raj,
The answer is: Yes.
You will need to edit catexp.sql to rebuild internal view to exclude
interested owner#. 
This is as simple as it gets!

- Kirti


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Is it possible to exclude certain sys type schema when we do export? We are
(will be) migrating from 8161 to 9201 and would like to exclude MDSYS and
CTXSYS from (8161) export.

Is there a simple way to achieve this??

Raj
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RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Raj,
The answer is: Yes.
You will need to edit catexp.sql to rebuild internal view to exclude
interested owner#. 
This is as simple as it gets!

- Kirti


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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Is it possible to exclude certain sys type schema when we do export? We are
(will be) migrating from 8161 to 9201 and would like to exclude MDSYS and
CTXSYS from (8161) export.

Is there a simple way to achieve this??

Raj
__
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RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Raj - Assuming you are using an export parameter file (file.prms). Instead
of the FULL=Y parameter, use OWNER=(USER1,USER2,USER3, . . .
Unfortunately export doesn't offer the capability to say full except for
mdsys, ctxsys, if that is your question. You can also do a full export and
then selectively import the desired schemas.
Dennis Williams
DBA
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Is it possible to exclude certain sys type schema when we do export? We are
(will be) migrating from 8161 to 9201 and would like to exclude MDSYS and
CTXSYS from (8161) export.

Is there a simple way to achieve this??

Raj
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RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Export question on excluding certain schema





Dennis,


I received a reply from Kirti that by tweaking catexp81.sql file we could just achieve that. This is possible because all we have to do is tweak a view that dictates what will be exported.

It looks like that will solve my problem.


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Raj - Assuming you are using an export parameter file (file.prms). Instead
of the FULL=Y parameter, use OWNER=(USER1,USER2,USER3, . . .
Unfortunately export doesn't offer the capability to say full except for
mdsys, ctxsys, if that is your question. You can also do a full export and
then selectively import the desired schemas.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

Raj - Great! That one is beyond me, but Kirti is certainly the expert, so
were I you, I'd try his suggestion. Good luck.
 
Dennis Williams 
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Dennis, 

I received a reply from Kirti that by tweaking catexp81.sql file we could
just achieve that. This is possible because all we have to do is tweak a
view that dictates what will be exported.

It looks like that will solve my problem. 

Raj 
__ 
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Raj - Assuming you are using an export parameter file (file.prms). Instead 
of the FULL=Y parameter, use OWNER=(USER1,USER2,USER3, . . . 
Unfortunately export doesn't offer the capability to say full except for 
mdsys, ctxsys, if that is your question. You can also do a full export and 
then selectively import the desired schemas. 
Dennis Williams 
DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

NO! NO! NO! Please... I am not an expert. 
I just remembered this trick that I learned from the real experts (like
Anjo, X$KGopal ...)
I simply passed on what I had learned from others.  

Cheers!
- Kirti 

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Raj - Great! That one is beyond me, but Kirti is certainly the expert, so
were I you, I'd try his suggestion. Good luck.
 
Dennis Williams 
DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Dennis, 

I received a reply from Kirti that by tweaking catexp81.sql file we could
just achieve that. This is possible because all we have to do is tweak a
view that dictates what will be exported.

It looks like that will solve my problem. 

Raj 
__ 
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com 
Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that of ESPN Inc.

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Raj - Assuming you are using an export parameter file (file.prms). Instead 
of the FULL=Y parameter, use OWNER=(USER1,USER2,USER3, . . . 
Unfortunately export doesn't offer the capability to say full except for 
mdsys, ctxsys, if that is your question. You can also do a full export and 
then selectively import the desired schemas. 
Dennis Williams 
DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Export question on excluding certain schema





Also, by default, in Oracle 8.1.6 MDSYS and CTXSYS are already excluded from the export, so no editing of catexp.sql is needed to do what the original poster wanted to do.

# grep MDSYS $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catexp.sql 
 u$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')
 u.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')
 u1$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')
 'ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')
 ue$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')
 s$.owner not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')
 AND u.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')


 -Original Message-
 From: Deshpande, Kirti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 
 The answer is: Yes.
 You will need to edit catexp.sql to rebuild internal view to exclude
 interested owner#. 
 
 -Original Message-
 Is it possible to exclude certain sys type schema when we do 
 export? We are
 (will be) migrating from 8161 to 9201 and would like to 
 exclude MDSYS and
 CTXSYS from (8161) export.





RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: RE: Export question on excluding certain schema



Thanks 
for the info. Learned something new. 

Dennis 
: That proves I am no expert ;) 

- 
Kirti 

-Original Message-From: Jacques Kilchoer 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 
2:29 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: Export question on excluding certain schema
Also, by default, in Oracle 8.1.6 MDSYS and CTXSYS are already 
excluded from the export, so no editing of catexp.sql is needed to do what the 
original poster wanted to do.
# grep MDSYS $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catexp.sql 
 u$.name not 
in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
u.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
u1$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
'ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
ue$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
s$.owner not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  AND u.name not in ('ORDSYS', 
'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS') 
 -Original Message-  
href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  The answer is: Yes. 
 You will need to edit catexp.sql to rebuild internal view 
to exclude  interested owner#.   -Original Message- 
 Is it possible to exclude certain sys type schema when we 
do  export? We are  
(will be) migrating from 8161 to 9201 and would like to  exclude MDSYS and  CTXSYS from (8161) 
export. 


RE: Export question on excluding certain schema

2002-09-05 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Export question on excluding certain schema



Missed that too ...

Thanks Jacques

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  -Original Message-From: Deshpande, Kirti 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 05, 
  2002 4:09 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Export question on excluding certain 
  schema
  Thanks for the info. Learned something new. 
  
  
  Dennis : That proves I am no expert ;) 
  
  
  - 
  Kirti 
  
  -Original Message-From: Jacques Kilchoer 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, September 05, 
  2002 2:29 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Export question on excluding certain 
  schema
  Also, by default, in Oracle 8.1.6 MDSYS and CTXSYS are already 
  excluded from the export, so no editing of catexp.sql is needed to do what the 
  original poster wanted to do.
  # grep MDSYS $ORACLE_HOME/rdbms/admin/catexp.sql 
   u$.name not 
  in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
  u.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
  u1$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
  'ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
  ue$.name not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  
  s$.owner not in ('ORDSYS', 'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS')  AND u.name not in ('ORDSYS', 
  'MDSYS', 'CTXSYS', 'ORDPLUGINS') 

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RE: Export question - appending date to dmp file

2001-12-04 Thread peter . lomax

Try the following example:

TMD=`date '+%Y/%m/%d'`
TMS=`date '+%Y%m%d%H%M%S'`
sqlplus -s internal whisky
set verif off pages 0 echo off feed off term off lines 200
spool $SHELLSRCDIR/dbcontents.$TMS.log
select  'alter database rename file '''||name||''' to '''||name||''';'
fromv\$datafile;
column member format a50
select 'alter database rename file '''||member||''' to '''||member||''';'
from
v\$logfile;
spool off
whisky


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Hello All,

I am trying to append date to dmp file while exporting it , no luck any
ideas..

exp userid=user/passwd imp  file=EXPDATA$DATE.dmp 
 
(I need to have system date and if possible time (TIMESTAMP ) appended to it
.)

TIA
Cheers
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RE: Export question - appending date to dmp file

2001-12-04 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS

RK - The system nicely timestamps the file automatically for you. Isn't that
good enough? Another idea - on Unix, tar several files and it will keep the
system timestamps on them.
Dennis Williams 
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Hello All,
 
I am trying to append date to dmp file while exporting it , no luck any
ideas..
 
exp userid=user/passwd imp  file=EXPDATA$DATE.dmp 
 
(I need to have system date and if possible time (TIMESTAMP ) appended to it
.)
 
TIA
Cheers
RK

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RE: Export question - appending date to dmp file

2001-12-04 Thread Sherman, Edward

Try this:
 
DUMPFILE=EXPDATA_$(date '+%m%d%Y%H%M').dmp
echo $DUMPFILE
 
should return something like:
EXPDATA_120420011626.dmp
 
Which means export started on Dec. 4, 2001 at 4:26 PM.
 
do 'man date' to customize it further for your specific needs
 
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Yes, I agree, but I have a valid reason for doing this in this way.. any
sugesstions.. 
 
Ramana 

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RK - The system nicely timestamps the file automatically for you. Isn't that
good enough? Another idea - on Unix, tar several files and it will keep the
system timestamps on them.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hello All,

I am trying to append date to dmp file while exporting it , no luck any
ideas..

exp userid=user/passwd imp  file=EXPDATA$DATE.dmp

(I need to have system date and if possible time (TIMESTAMP ) appended to it
.)

TIA
Cheers
RK

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Re: Export question - appending date to dmp file

2001-12-04 Thread ASCI



Yes, I agree, but I have a valid reason for doing 
this in this way.. any sugesstions.. 

Ramana 

  - Original Message - 
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  Subject: RE: Export question - appending 
  date to dmp file
  RK - The system nicely timestamps the file automatically for 
  you. Isn't thatgood enough? Another idea - on Unix, tar several files and 
  it will keep thesystem timestamps on them.Dennis 
  WilliamsDBALifetouch, Inc.[EMAIL PROTECTED]-Original 
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  date to dmp file while exporting it , no luck anyideas..exp 
  userid=user/passwd imp file=EXPDATA$DATE.dmp(I need to have 
  system date and if possible time (TIMESTAMP ) appended to 
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Re: Export question - appending date to dmp file

2001-12-04 Thread Don Granaman

Try exp ... file=expdat.`date +%j`.dmp ... or whatever format is
desired.  Note that those are NOT quote marks, but grave marks.  They
mean the result of whatever command is inside them.

You might want to do something like this in a script:
JDATE=`date +%j'
exp ... file=expdat.${JDATE}.dmp ...

Of course, Julian date (%j) is not what you asked for.  See: $ man
date  The possibities are endless.

-Don Granaman
[OraSaurus]

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 RK - The system nicely timestamps the file automatically for you.
Isn't that
 good enough? Another idea - on Unix, tar several files and it will
keep the
 system timestamps on them.
 Dennis Williams
 DBA
 Lifetouch, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 -Original Message-
 Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 10:21 AM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


 Hello All,

 I am trying to append date to dmp file while exporting it , no luck
any
 ideas..

 exp userid=user/passwd imp  file=EXPDATA$DATE.dmp

 (I need to have system date and if possible time (TIMESTAMP )
appended to it
 .)

 TIA
 Cheers
 RK

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RE: Export question - appending date to dmp file

2001-12-04 Thread Khedr, Waleed



file=expdata`date '+%y%m%d'`.dmp

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  Yes, I agree, but I have a valid reason for doing 
  this in this way.. any sugesstions.. 
  
  Ramana 
  
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Subject: RE: Export question - 
appending date to dmp file
RK - The system nicely timestamps the file automatically for 
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RE: Export question.

2001-05-16 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Well whaddya know...

Analyzed the table with estimates statistics (sampled 30 percent) and bingo.
My table  is now reporting that it is 4.4Gb and not 330Mb. Avg row length
went from 6 bytes to 81. On a 50+ million row table that made some
difference to the calculation.

Many thanks Anita (and to all who replied). Yet another reason to get off
this crappy bug ridden 8.0.5.0.0

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Lee,

Definitely sounds like bug 766095.  It isn't listed in
the patchset readme file for 8.0.5.2.1 so it doesn't
appear to be fixed in 8.0.5, although there might be a
patchset exception for your platform (check with
support).

The workaround is to estimate statistics using a
percentage which brings the total amount of data
analyzed under 4GB to avoid the overflow issue which
results in the incorrect value, keeping in mind that
the value produced by estimating may not be 100%
accurate either.

HTH,

-- Anita

Lee,

Definitely sounds like bug 766095.  It isn't listed in
the patchset readme file for 8.0.5.2.1 so it doesn't
appear to be fixed in 8.0.5, although there might be a
patchset exception for your platform (check with
support).

The workaround is to estimate statistics using a
percentage which brings the total amount of data
analyzed under 4GB to avoid the overflow issue which
results in the incorrect value, keeping in mind that
the value produced by estimating may not be 100%
accurate either.

HTH,

-- Anita


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wrote:
 OK here goes and thanks for the response
 
 Definitely one table and from the top :-)
 
 DB Block size = 8192
 Avg. Row Size = 6
 Num Rows = 57351031
 Pct free = 0
 Pct Used = 40
 Table definition (column names removed) =
 
 Type
  
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NUMBER(9)
 CHAR(2)
 CHAR(3)
 CHAR(4)
 VARCHAR2(100)
 VARCHAR2(60)
 VARCHAR2(50)
 VARCHAR2(60)
 VARCHAR2(7)
 NUMBER(6)
 NUMBER(6)
 NUMBER(9)
 DATE
 VARCHAR2(50)
 
 A - ha I think the penny drops - how on earth could
 this be right - average
 row length of 6 with a table definition like this.
 Is this the problem. The
 average row length must be wrong, yet the table was
 definitely analyzed with
 compute statistics.
 
 
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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Well back down to earth with a bang again, back to work and the weather is
miserable. I didn't see any replies to this last mail so I will repost. Any
help or insight would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Lee


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OK,

To answer a couple of questions, I did use compute statistics to get the
stats. I did not use compress=y. The table should have been 420Mb according
to the avg_row_len*num_rows calculation. The export file came out at 5.7Gb.
When I imported it fell over at 1Gb. I set my initial extent to what I
calculated it at earlier and next extent to 4Mb and tablespace (1Gb) filled
up.

I'm still confused as to how this happened. 

Never mind its the weekend, out to a top class restaurant tonight, its the
English FA Cup Final on Saturday (lots of beer) and the weather is
glorious..

Oracle ? Oracle Who 

Regards

Lee


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When you export it do not! use compress=Y.

When you import the table be sure to prebuild the table with the initial and
next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.

This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the way it was.

Ruth

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 All,

 I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table
 size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing
 strange about that, however the amount of space this table is taking up is
 about 4.6Gb !

 Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting this
 table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb
and
 still going strong.

 Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff
 (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)

 Regards

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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread Tim Sawmiller

Ok, I'll pretend I'm from Missouri (the Show Me State).  What's the database block 
size?  What's the average row size?  How many rows?  What are the pctused and pctfree 
values?  Are you using any weird data types (like LONG, RAW, that kind of stuff).  Are 
you sure you are only exporting the one table?  Show us everything please, as I sip my 
morning coffee...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/01 05:31AM 
Well back down to earth with a bang again, back to work and the weather is
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help or insight would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Lee


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OK,

To answer a couple of questions, I did use compute statistics to get the
stats. I did not use compress=y. The table should have been 420Mb according
to the avg_row_len*num_rows calculation. The export file came out at 5.7Gb.
When I imported it fell over at 1Gb. I set my initial extent to what I
calculated it at earlier and next extent to 4Mb and tablespace (1Gb) filled
up.

I'm still confused as to how this happened. 

Never mind its the weekend, out to a top class restaurant tonight, its the
English FA Cup Final on Saturday (lots of beer) and the weather is
glorious..

Oracle ? Oracle Who 

Regards

Lee


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Sent: 10 May 2001 17:01
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


When you export it do not! use compress=Y.

When you import the table be sure to prebuild the table with the initial and
next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.

This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the way it was.

Ruth

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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:31 AM


 All,

 I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table
 size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing
 strange about that, however the amount of space this table is taking up is
 about 4.6Gb !

 Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting this
 table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb
and
 still going strong.

 Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff
 (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)

 Regards

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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

OK here goes and thanks for the response

Definitely one table and from the top :-)

DB Block size = 8192
Avg. Row Size = 6
Num Rows = 57351031
Pct free = 0
Pct Used = 40
Table definition (column names removed) =

Type
 
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NUMBER(9)
CHAR(2)
CHAR(3)
CHAR(4)
VARCHAR2(100)
VARCHAR2(60)
VARCHAR2(50)
VARCHAR2(60)
VARCHAR2(7)
NUMBER(6)
NUMBER(6)
NUMBER(9)
DATE
VARCHAR2(50)

A - ha I think the penny drops - how on earth could this be right - average
row length of 6 with a table definition like this. Is this the problem. The
average row length must be wrong, yet the table was definitely analyzed with
compute statistics.


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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread A. Bardeen

Lee,

What version of the db is this?  Bug 766095 generates
inaccurate avg_row_len for tables over 4GB (fixed in
8.0.6).

Is this a partitioned table and are you using FGAC
(fine grained access control)?  There's a bug where
the entire table gets exported in the partition.  I
can't remember whether it's only when exporting
individual partitions or the entire table though.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 Well back down to earth with a bang again, back to
 work and the weather is
 miserable. I didn't see any replies to this last
 mail so I will repost. Any
 help or insight would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Regards
 
 Lee
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 11 May 2001 15:51
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 OK,
 
 To answer a couple of questions, I did use compute
 statistics to get the
 stats. I did not use compress=y. The table should
 have been 420Mb according
 to the avg_row_len*num_rows calculation. The export
 file came out at 5.7Gb.
 When I imported it fell over at 1Gb. I set my
 initial extent to what I
 calculated it at earlier and next extent to 4Mb and
 tablespace (1Gb) filled
 up.
 
 I'm still confused as to how this happened. 
 
 Never mind its the weekend, out to a top class
 restaurant tonight, its the
 English FA Cup Final on Saturday (lots of beer) and
 the weather is
 glorious..
 
 Oracle ? Oracle Who 
 
 Regards
 
 Lee
 
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: 10 May 2001 17:01
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 When you export it do not! use compress=Y.
 
 When you import the table be sure to prebuild the
 table with the initial and
 next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.
 
 This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the
 way it was.
 
 Ruth
 
 - Original Message -
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:31 AM
 
 
  All,
 
  I have recently ran an analysis on a table and
 when calculating the table
  size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at
 about 420Mb. Nothing
  strange about that, however the amount of space
 this table is taking up is
  about 4.6Gb !
 
  Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am
 currently exporting this
  table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is
 now in excess of 1.5Gb
 and
  still going strong.
 
  Does export merely backup the data or does it also
 backup other stuff
  (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)
 
  Regards
 
  Lee Robertson
 
 
 
 
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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread Tim Sawmiller

No kidding...it's got to be at least 38.  38 * 57351031 = 2.03 gigabytes, and I'm sure 
it's bigger than that...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/15/01 10:25AM 
OK here goes and thanks for the response

Definitely one table and from the top :-)

DB Block size = 8192
Avg. Row Size = 6
Num Rows = 57351031
Pct free = 0
Pct Used = 40
Table definition (column names removed) =

Type
 
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
NUMBER(9)
CHAR(2)
CHAR(3)
CHAR(4)
VARCHAR2(100)
VARCHAR2(60)
VARCHAR2(50)
VARCHAR2(60)
VARCHAR2(7)
NUMBER(6)
NUMBER(6)
NUMBER(9)
DATE
VARCHAR2(50)

A - ha I think the penny drops - how on earth could this be right - average
row length of 6 with a table definition like this. Is this the problem. The
average row length must be wrong, yet the table was definitely analyzed with
compute statistics.


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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread A. Bardeen

Lee,

Definitely sounds like bug 766095.  It isn't listed in
the patchset readme file for 8.0.5.2.1 so it doesn't
appear to be fixed in 8.0.5, although there might be a
patchset exception for your platform (check with
support).

The workaround is to estimate statistics using a
percentage which brings the total amount of data
analyzed under 4GB to avoid the overflow issue which
results in the incorrect value, keeping in mind that
the value produced by estimating may not be 100%
accurate either.

HTH,

-- Anita

Lee,

Definitely sounds like bug 766095.  It isn't listed in
the patchset readme file for 8.0.5.2.1 so it doesn't
appear to be fixed in 8.0.5, although there might be a
patchset exception for your platform (check with
support).

The workaround is to estimate statistics using a
percentage which brings the total amount of data
analyzed under 4GB to avoid the overflow issue which
results in the incorrect value, keeping in mind that
the value produced by estimating may not be 100%
accurate either.

HTH,

-- Anita


--- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 OK here goes and thanks for the response
 
 Definitely one table and from the top :-)
 
 DB Block size = 8192
 Avg. Row Size = 6
 Num Rows = 57351031
 Pct free = 0
 Pct Used = 40
 Table definition (column names removed) =
 
 Type
  
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NUMBER(9)
 CHAR(2)
 CHAR(3)
 CHAR(4)
 VARCHAR2(100)
 VARCHAR2(60)
 VARCHAR2(50)
 VARCHAR2(60)
 VARCHAR2(7)
 NUMBER(6)
 NUMBER(6)
 NUMBER(9)
 DATE
 VARCHAR2(50)
 
 A - ha I think the penny drops - how on earth could
 this be right - average
 row length of 6 with a table definition like this.
 Is this the problem. The
 average row length must be wrong, yet the table was
 definitely analyzed with
 compute statistics.
 
 
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RE: Export question.

2001-05-15 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

Many thanks, I will give this a try.

Regards

Lee


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Lee,

Definitely sounds like bug 766095.  It isn't listed in
the patchset readme file for 8.0.5.2.1 so it doesn't
appear to be fixed in 8.0.5, although there might be a
patchset exception for your platform (check with
support).

The workaround is to estimate statistics using a
percentage which brings the total amount of data
analyzed under 4GB to avoid the overflow issue which
results in the incorrect value, keeping in mind that
the value produced by estimating may not be 100%
accurate either.

HTH,

-- Anita

--- Robertson Lee - lerobe [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 OK here goes and thanks for the response
 
 Definitely one table and from the top :-)
 
 DB Block size = 8192
 Avg. Row Size = 6
 Num Rows = 57351031
 Pct free = 0
 Pct Used = 40
 Table definition (column names removed) =
 
 Type
  
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
 NUMBER(9)
 CHAR(2)
 CHAR(3)
 CHAR(4)
 VARCHAR2(100)
 VARCHAR2(60)
 VARCHAR2(50)
 VARCHAR2(60)
 VARCHAR2(7)
 NUMBER(6)
 NUMBER(6)
 NUMBER(9)
 DATE
 VARCHAR2(50)
 
 A - ha I think the penny drops - how on earth could
 this be right - average
 row length of 6 with a table definition like this.
 Is this the problem. The
 average row length must be wrong, yet the table was
 definitely analyzed with
 compute statistics.
 
 
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RE: Export question.

2001-05-11 Thread Robertson Lee - lerobe

OK,

To answer a couple of questions, I did use compute statistics to get the
stats. I did not use compress=y. The table should have been 420Mb according
to the avg_row_len*num_rows calculation. The export file came out at 5.7Gb.
When I imported it fell over at 1Gb. I set my initial extent to what I
calculated it at earlier and next extent to 4Mb and tablespace (1Gb) filled
up.

I'm still confused as to how this happened. 

Never mind its the weekend, out to a top class restaurant tonight, its the
English FA Cup Final on Saturday (lots of beer) and the weather is
glorious..

Oracle ? Oracle Who 

Regards

Lee


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When you export it do not! use compress=Y.

When you import the table be sure to prebuild the table with the initial and
next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.

This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the way it was.

Ruth

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Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:31 AM


 All,

 I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table
 size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing
 strange about that, however the amount of space this table is taking up is
 about 4.6Gb !

 Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting this
 table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb
and
 still going strong.

 Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff
 (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)

 Regards

 Lee Robertson




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RE: Export question.

2001-05-11 Thread Mohammad Rafiq

You should check size of table from dba_segments like
select segment_name,bytes from dba_segment
where segment_name = 'TABLE_NAME';

HTH
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OK,

To answer a couple of questions, I did use compute statistics to get the
stats. I did not use compress=y. The table should have been 420Mb according
to the avg_row_len*num_rows calculation. The export file came out at 5.7Gb.
When I imported it fell over at 1Gb. I set my initial extent to what I
calculated it at earlier and next extent to 4Mb and tablespace (1Gb) filled
up.

I'm still confused as to how this happened.

Never mind its the weekend, out to a top class restaurant tonight, its the
English FA Cup Final on Saturday (lots of beer) and the weather is
glorious..

Oracle ? Oracle Who 

Regards

Lee


-Original Message-
Sent: 10 May 2001 17:01
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


When you export it do not! use compress=Y.

When you import the table be sure to prebuild the table with the initial and
next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.

This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the way it was.

Ruth

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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:31 AM


  All,
 
  I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table
  size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing
  strange about that, however the amount of space this table is taking up 
is
  about 4.6Gb !
 
  Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting 
this
  table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb
and
  still going strong.
 
  Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff
  (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)
 
  Regards
 
  Lee Robertson
 
 
 
 
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RE: Export question.

2001-05-10 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Title: RE: Export question.





-Original Message-
From: Robertson Lee - lerobe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table size using
num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing strange about that, however the
amount of space this table is taking up is about 4.6Gb !
 
Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting this table and
 suddenlyn oticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb and still going strong. 
 
Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff (unused blocks,
preallocated etc.)



Export only backs up the data (and the DDL needed to recreate objects).
Was the analyze done using compute or estimate? The estimage of avg_row_len could have been off.





Re: Export question.

2001-05-10 Thread Ruth Gramolini

When you export it do not! use compress=Y.

When you import the table be sure to prebuild the table with the initial and
next extent sizes to be appropriate for this table.

This will reorg it unstead of putting it back the way it was.

Ruth

- Original Message -
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 11:31 AM


 All,

 I have recently ran an analysis on a table and when calculating the table
 size using num_rows*avg_row_len this came out at about 420Mb. Nothing
 strange about that, however the amount of space this table is taking up is
 about 4.6Gb !

 Instant case for a reorg I thought, however, I am currently exporting this
 table and suddenly noticed that the dump file is now in excess of 1.5Gb
and
 still going strong.

 Does export merely backup the data or does it also backup other stuff
 (unused blocks, preallocated etc.)

 Regards

 Lee Robertson




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