RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-06 Thread Stephen Lee
I should have mentioned that another useful one could be QRM. QRM = I am experiencing interference. QRM? = Are you experiencing interference? Look across the table at your DBA-mates during your next meeting with management and say or ask QRM(?). Or blink your eyes. --.- .-. --

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-06 Thread KENNETH JANUSZ
-.-. --.- -.. . -.- WA9CAM/0 - Original Message - To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:58 AM I should have mentioned that another useful one could be QRM. QRM = I am experiencing interference. QRM? = Are you experiencing

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-04 Thread Joe Testa
Yea but I never see a what's your QTH joe Stephen Lee wrote: Maybe it's time to bring back all those Morse code Q abbreviations with appropriate adaptation to IT industry. Instead of QRO meaning increase your power, it might mean Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer. I don't

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared As far as we know there is no bandwidth limit on this list and problems can be understood better if you state them in a lucid and clear language. I had to really read twice (sorry haven't had my Great One yet) to understand

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to condense phrases (lol for lots of laughs) but I really dislike seeing you written as u. It's not that hard to type the extra two letters. --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As far as we

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Raj - I go through episodes where I get pretty frustrated with the cryptic language, but then I take a deep breath and remember that for some people English isn't their first language. Also, I think text messages on cell phones are changing the way many people deal with English. I also get

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread John.Hallas
I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long enough with this list long enough I would find something of interest (lol) John -Original Message- Sent: 02

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F
I thought lol meant laughing out loud? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I have philosophical trouble with it. I dislike the abbreviations. I will use abbreviations to

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Gints Plivna
Hmm, English really isn't my mother tongue, but I don't like such cryptic notations in English as well as in Latvian. It makes language more meagre and poor. Of course I also make mistakes but these are caused by my lack of knowledge and I can always accept them from another people. Gints Plivna

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Thanks Dennis, It isn't my first language either (I started learning English in the 5th grade in India). I have seen this language before, and like Rachel said, it is more of a philosophical trouble. I used similar language

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread OraCop
Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so? OraCop. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Martin Kendall
Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no place in a forum such as this. Quite apart from being needless, such a message format shows a total lack of respect for the recipient and a distinct arrogance

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread OraCop
Even though i strongly think that there is nothing wrong in writing U instead of you, respecting your feelings towards the list, and considering the fact that we must think above such small matters, I will be careful in future. Thanks. OraCop. --- Martin Kendall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Richard Ji
lol = laughing out loud lots of luck, lots of love, lots of laughs, little old lady. I will stop here now :) Richard Ji -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 11:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I thought lol meant laughing out loud? Tom Mercadante Oracle

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Richard Ji
Don't forget a lot of people uses PDA or wireless devices which has limitations on how many characters can be trasmitted. SMS for instance allows only 160 characters. Now why would someone write from such a device to ask an Oracle question is beyond me. Perhaps all the machines are down? :)

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Stephen Lee
Maybe it's time to bring back all those Morse code Q abbreviations with appropriate adaptation to IT industry. Instead of QRO meaning increase your power, it might mean Here's a nickel kid, get yourself a better computer. I don't think you will ever see QRP used (reduce your power).

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread mkb
Dnt knw wht al the fss is abt. Why nt just drp al th vwls? V cn al undrstd tht cn't v? ;-) mhmd --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much trouble compared to writing U, but understanding U, should not be much trouble either. Don't U think so?

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Kevin Lange
Lighten up Frances -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:46 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Although I hate to make my first submission to The List in 2003 as negative one, I would still like to suggest that text messages have no place in a forum such

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Well if you want an answer from the experts on this list (or anyone, really - I fall into the 'shmo' category) it's best to ask a question in the clearest way possible... otherwise your emails may go directly to the delete folder. Ur

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Witold Iwaniec
It reminds me the text I have read few years ago, maybe even posted to this list: http://www.ahajokes.com/eng011.html BTW Personally I am on the philosophical side - use common abbreviations like BTW, ROTFL, etc but don't like the U, 4U, etc. But who knows what the future brings, especially with

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
it can mean both. one of the reasons I don't love abbreviations! --- Mercadante, Thomas F [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought lol meant laughing out loud? Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, January 02, 2003 10:30 AM To: Multiple

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2003-01-02 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
Title: Was [RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared] Sorry everyone ... I didn't mean to open a can of worms. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc. Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com Any opinion expressed here is personal

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
Proper use of language never hurts. In fact, as Raj pointed out, if you use the abbreviations in work emails or memos, especially to people higher in the corporate structure, you are likely to lose image points. --- OraCop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I understand that writing you is not much

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Rachel Carmichael
then you'll enjoy trying to figure out ROTFLMAO the L does stand for laughing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general meaning by looking at the context it was used in but know I actually know. I knew that if I perservered long

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Stephen Andert
Too easy Rachel... Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A** Off Stephen [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/02/03 12:05PM then you'll enjoy trying to figure out ROTFLMAO the L does stand for laughing. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have never known what lol stood for , I appreciated the general

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2003-01-02 Thread mkb
Actually Raj, I appreciate the fact that you brought this up. It needed to be said. mohammed --- Jamadagni, Rajendra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry everyone ... I didn't mean to open a can of worms. Raj __ Rajendra Jamadagni

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Jared . Still
of list ORACLE-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared Well if you want an answer from the experts on this list (or anyone, really - I fall into the 'shmo' category) it's best to ask a question in the clearest way possible

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2003-01-02 Thread Naveen Nahata
If you need the answer, from someone who is unwilling to yield, you will have to yield yourself. This is the first thing I learnt on this list. There are real experts on this list, and if you want an answer from them, make sure that they don't direct the mail to trash even before reading it.

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread OraCop
Jared what exactly U use Veritas Netbackup fr in Ur backup strategy. I use rman to take backup on disk. Please describe the role of veritas NB in detail and if u can send me example script to perform what tasks, that would be gr8. OraCop Jared --- Jared Still [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread Jared Still
You must purchase the NBU for Oracle option to use RMAN with NBU. Nothing special from the RMAN side. The SBT_TAPE device is now routed to NBU. Not quite that simple in reality, as the backups now become part of the NBU environment, and you must setup NBU policies, schedules, etc. Jared

RE: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
OraCop If you invest in the option, you might consider purchasing the book Oracle9i RMAN Backup Recovery by Robert Freeman It has a chapter on configuring VERITAS NetBackup. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday,

Re: Automatic backup on Oracle 9i -- For Jared

2002-12-31 Thread Yechiel Adar
Veritas has a central tape system for open systems. You use the product to backup all your data into this tape system, not to disk or local tape. Veritas NetBackup has an agent that allows RMAN to open channels to this tape system and backup the database to it. We backup all our systems to it and