RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-07 Thread YTTRI Lisa
We use some of those, too. DBArtisan is primarily used by the Sybase and SQL Server DBAs. It has a couple of quirks when connected to Oracle. ER/Studio is our modelling tool, and we're looking at Change Manager for source control. We have inquired about Performance Center, but it is still

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-06 Thread YTTRI Lisa
We are using OEM currently on our Oracle environments. However, we have about 100 Sybase servers and about 10 Microsoft SQL Server servers in addition to the 20 or so Oracle instances we have. There are only 6 of us supporting all these environments, and not everybody is knowledgeable in all

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-06 Thread Mohan, Ross
Embarcadero products? -Original Message- Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 2:40 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are using OEM currently on our Oracle environments. However, we have about 100 Sybase servers and about 10 Microsoft SQL Server servers in addition to the 20

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread Mark Leith
Lisa, Have you seen or heard of NORAD (Surveillance Module)? Currently you can monitor: Database: O/S: Oracle NT/2000 Sybase HP/UX SQLServer Solaris AIX LINUX All from the same client console.

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread Gene Sais
I second that, too long to list the problems I had w/ CA Unicenter, worthless expensive product. CA touts their product to top management, then you get the call to implement. Just my $.02, since you asked :) Gene [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/01 08:35PM CA Unicenter sucks, CA support sucks. CA

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread Koniszewski, Mike
HI Lisa, We don't use Xray or CA unicenter but we use Patrol from BMC with UNIX,NT and the Oracle Availability Suite. Installation is straight forward and support is great. Does allot of proactive monitoring. The psl programming language is easy for customization. It comes packaged

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
I appreciate everyone sharing their experiences. My question on this topic is what tools are appropriate for what environments? Some tools seem more extensive (and expensive) and therefore appropriate to sites with many Oracle instances. I am currently responsible for 5 production instances all

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

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RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]
We looked at Quest extensively, and even began rolling it out. I/Watch fell apart at the seams when we tried to scale... Jim __ Jim Hawkins Oracle Database Administrator Data Management Center of Expertise Pharmacia Corporation 800 North

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]
We looked at Quest extensively, and even began rolling it out. I/Watch fell apart at the seams when we tried to scale... Jim __ Jim Hawkins Oracle Database Administrator Data Management Center of Expertise Pharmacia Corporation 800 North

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-05 Thread Kimberly Smith
I have evaluated I/Watch and it was pretty good. Especially with Spotlight. I have actually seen Spotlight help me quickly identify a problem which I am not sure I could have found so easily with out the visual picture. I had both tools for about 3 months but could not get anyone to agree to

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter Hi Lisa, CA Unicenter has been a source of many nightmares and sleepless nights in the past for me. I was very glad when I quit that job... Just my .02 Lisa Koivu Certified Monkey Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 954-935-4117 -Original Message

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
Lisa, What are you trying to monitor - just Oracle databases, the OS as well (if so which OS) and anything else? We use the Watchdog functionality (part of CA Unicenter) to monitor our VMS servers (where we don't run Oracle) and it good for that. It depends on what you are trying to achieve.

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread YTTRI Lisa
Title: RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter That's the kind of .02 I'm looking for. I don't need any more nightmares .was it bad from an installation perspective or usage? thanks! -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, December 04

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread HAWKINS, JAMES W [IT/1000]
Title: RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter Lisa, We are now concluding a very lengthy selection process, and it looks like we will go with BMC Patrol/DB X-Ray. We refuse to do business with CA, and had a very bad experience with Quest I/Watch. None of these are easy to roll-out enterprise

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread YTTRI Lisa
Ideally, we'd like to find a common tool to monitor Oracle, Sybase and SQL Server databases running on both NT and Unix platforms. There are separate groups that are responsible for NT support and Unix support. If we could all use the same tool, we'd be delighted, but if not, then one tool for

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread Kimberly Smith
CA Unicenter sucks, CA support sucks. CA sucks. Stay away. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:25 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi - Does anyone have experience with either of these products? I'm interested in ease of installation, ease of use, and

RE: BMC Patrol DBXray / CA Unicenter

2001-12-04 Thread Wong, Bing
Tools! Tools! Tools! Did you look at Quest at all? -Original Message- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sent: 12/4/01 5:35 PM CA Unicenter sucks, CA support sucks. CA sucks. Stay away. -Original Message- Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 12:25 PM To: Multiple