Re: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread ryan_oracle
the arrogance here is troubling. though there seems to be more incompetent developers who do not know the database I have worked with my share of incompetent DBAs. Havent used anything since versoin 5.0 and so on. Dont know anything at all about development. If a production DBA knows

RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Boivin, Patrice J
not arrogance, experience. Granted, there are good developers out there. The tendency is to think only on a project by project basis in development because of the way developers sometimes get funding to sustain themselves. No offense was intended, it was a cautionary note nothing more.

RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Goulet, Dick
I don't normally like to get into these turf battles, but in this case I have to agree with Patrice. Most developers are looking strictly at their current project with no regard for anything they've done in the past or that others around them are doing. Also I find that a significant number

RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Thomas Day
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RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread April Wells
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA But if you make them stored procedures, you might be giving up some vestige of control. CAN'T give up control... April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ \ \ \ \ Few people really enjoy

RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread ryan_oracle
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RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-21 Thread Davey, Alan
Title: RE: RE: Development vs. Production DBA Just don't grant execute. ;-) - Alan Davey Senior Analyst/Project Leader Oracle 9i OCA; 3/4 OCP w) 973.267.5990 x458 w) 212.295.3458 -Original Message-From: April Wells [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: RE: Development vs. Production DBA

2003-11-19 Thread ryan_oracle
there arent that many new pl/sql features. 90% of the time your using the generic stuff. the new stuff is nice, but not always that special. Or maybe its just because I do it everyday. But how much is new? PL/SQL tables? Bulk binds? Dynamic SQL? That stuff is all basic. Its minor syntax