]: Oracle vs
Mysql
At 03:29 PM 1/20/2004, you wrote:
I do indeed. Rumor was that rpt/rpf was written by
Larry himself.
Now I understand! I once applied for a job at Oracle, and got asked: What do
you think about RPT/RPF. My answer: Probably som hobby-project of one or
another developer, which
yup
Dick GouletSenior Oracle DBAOracle Certified 8i
DBA
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Re: Re[2]: Oracle vs MysqlAt 03:29 PM 1/20/2004, you
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On 2004.01.19 23:39, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
I used to use a SQL Module compiler. Not with Oracle though.
It's rare for me to run into someone else who likes that
approach. Actually, it's rare for me to encounter someone
who's even heard of it...
Jonathan, I've been around for a long time.
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Jonathan, I've been around for a long time. I've seen things like
DataLens for Lotus123, SQL*Calc, Easy*SQL, then there was an Oracle
Beat ya: Oracle Add-In for Lotus 123.
Using Ora*Net (Async), V4.1.4.
1987. And demoed to the press that same year.
g,dr
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
On 2004.01.19 23:39, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
I used to use a SQL Module compiler. Not with Oracle though.
It's rare for me to run into someone else who likes that
approach. Actually, it's rare for me to encounter someone
who's even
Ahhh.
Sql*Calc, Sql*Graph, Sqr EasySqr. Those were the good old days.
Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional
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Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
On
Then here's a rare treat for you! I *loved* SQL mods in RDB. I could make
a program in MACRO, BASIC, FORTRAN, BLISS, Ada, DIBOL, or Mladen's favorite
COBOL, and could effortlessly have them do DB work. I also didn't have to
hunt thru all the source for a single SQL statement since they were in
Do you remember IBM System 3/10? RPGII flat files? 120 col. punch cards?
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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Careful Mladen, your revealing your
The RPT RPF Oracle class was what made me go looking very quickly for a
batch Oracle tool. Then I found SQR. (This was all before PL/SQL and the
current versions of Oracle Reports). We bought it and the rest was history.
Why Oracle didn't buy SQR when they had a chance amazes me.
Tom
I've got my GX21-9129-9 right here in front of me. It should be in a
museum...
I'll take Obscure Geek References for $800, Alex.
Rich
Rich JesseSystem/Database Administrator
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I do indeed. Rumor was that rpt/rpf was written by Larry himself.
On 01/20/2004 09:39:34 AM, Goulet, Dick wrote:
Careful Mladen, your revealing your age!! Bet you remember RPT
RPF
as well!!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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On 01/20/2004 08:04:33 AM, Thater, William wrote:
Mladen Gogala scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
oh damn, have we been at this too long?;-)
Yes, we probably have. I must say that the spirit of Oracle Corp.
has changed significantly since the days of Geoff Squire, Chris Ellis,
Richard
Probably because they were dropping RPT RPF SQR smells a lot like it, YUCK!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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The RPT RPF Oracle class was what made me go
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120 col. punch cards?
You had a high-density model. Mine only had 80 cols, of which 72 were usable for my
goto-happy Fortran statements.
SF
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
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Careful Mladen, your revealing your age!! Bet you remember RPT RPF as well!!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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On 2004.01.19 23:39, Jonathan Gennick wrote:
I
On 01/20/2004 10:09:34 AM, KENNETH JANUSZ wrote:
Do you remember IBM System 3/10? RPGII flat files? 120 col. punch
cards?
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
I've never done anything with System/3. My first IBM was 3084
with MVS and IMS, running on 8M RAM. After an upgrade, it was
a
RPT was great stuff. In addition to SELECT statements it could do full
DML, DDL, and DCL (I think.) Like Unix it was just particular on who it
was friendly with. :-) Then there was RPT2C. Now there's perl.
Eschewing the pointy-clicky stuff.
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YES!
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Do you remember IBM System 3/10? RPGII flat files? 120 col. punch cards?
No hard drives?
My $0.02 worth,
Ken Janusz, CPIM
The old IBM System3 machines used 120 col. punch cards. And initially they
had no HD's. Everything was done with cards and a reader/sorter. To
compile a program you took the code you wrote, punched it into cards and
then put it behind a stack of cards that was the compiler. The machine read
What RPT and RPF exactly are? Are they some sort of reporting tool?
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RPT was great stuff. In addition to SELECT statements it could do full
DML, DDL, and DCL (I
Jonathan,
The only reason MySql is known better is that big mouth equal to Bill Gates
in Finland. Otherwise PostGreSql is the much better product.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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Yupp. RPF=report formatter or some such.
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eric king
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What RPT and RPF exactly are? Are they some sort of reporting tool?
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Eric,
They were the precusors to Oracle reports. RPT was the report extraction
tool, and RPF was the report formatter.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
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But, unless you have old diskettes... you'll never see them. They died with
the demise of v5.
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Yupp. RPF=report formatter or some such.
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eric king
Sent:
On 01/20/2004 03:29:33 PM, Goulet, Dick wrote:
Jonathan,
The only reason MySql is known better is that big mouth
equal to Bill Gates in Finland. Otherwise PostGreSql is the much
better product.
Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA
Dick, when you are talking about big
I know I used to set up RPT and do all sorts of complex updating things. At the State
and with things coming from mainframes, the data organization seemed to lend itself
well to RPT.
Since the organization was like of loops within loops, I could take the high order
update and then loop through
Dick, when you are talking about big mouth from Finland, you probably
don't refer to Pamela Anderson, also from Finland? The other person
from Finland, whom I will not mention except by the first name (Linus)
should be given credit for a wonderful OS that is successfully breaking
the MS
If Mr Torvalds needs a security blanket, I'd be happy to send him several. Yes he
crafted a wonderful OS I sincerely hope he knocks Billy Gates down to size. Seems
to be doing one heck of a job at it, even with SCO on MicroSlop's side. MS Anderson
appears headed for the twilight, thank GOD.
At 03:29 PM 1/20/2004, you wrote:
I do indeed. Rumor was that rpt/rpf
was written by Larry himself.
Now I understand! I once applied for a job at Oracle, and got asked: What
do you think about RPT/RPF. My answer: Probably som hobby-project of one
or another developer, which, after demonstration
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