RE: alert log suppression

2002-12-17 Thread Connor McDonald
The EXTENT_MANAGEMENT column tells you if they are
locally managed or not.  If they are local, then the
ALLOCATION_TYPE will be either UNIFORM, SYSTEM or
USER.  The latter means it was originally a dictionary
managed tspace that has been converted to lmt.

But in any event, the coalesce is just extra work for
no gain

hth
connor

 --- Markham, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  Thanks for the info Igor.  In addition to
this I am
 curious of how to
 determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM. 
 dba_tablespaces shows
 allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM TS.  TIA
 
 -Original Message-
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:30 PM
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
 
 
 Richard,
  
 If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually
 the best option), you
 don't need to do any coalescing on LMTs.
  
 Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   
  
  
 
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 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 PM
 
 
 ok.  They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0.  I'm running
 8.1.7.4 and 
 I believe that SMON requires PCTINCREASE  0 to do
 routine 
 coalescing.perhaps you have further to add
 to your post. 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 ] 
 Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
 
 
 The obvious question being why you are coalescing
 tablespaces 
 
  --- Markham, Richard
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:  Is it possible to suppress successful DDL 
 within the 
  alter log? 
  For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+
 tablespaces 
  which creates a couple line entry for each.  I
 would 
  like to 
  get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed. 
  
  TIA 
   
 
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Re: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Connor McDonald
The obvious question being why you are coalescing
tablespaces

 --- Markham, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  Is it possible to suppress successful DDL
within the
 alter log?
 For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+
 tablespaces
 which creates a couple line entry for each.  I would
 like to
 get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed.
 
 TIA
  

=
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RE: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: RE: alert log suppression





ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm running 8.1.7.4 and 
I believe that SMON requires PCTINCREASE  0 to do routine 
coalescing.perhaps you have further to add to your post.



-Original Message-
From: Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: alert log suppression



The obvious question being why you are coalescing tablespaces


--- Markham, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:  Is it possible to suppress successful DDL
within the
 alter log?
 For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces
 which creates a couple line entry for each. I would
 like to
 get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed.
 
 TIA
 


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http://www.oaktable.net


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Re: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: RE: alert log suppression



Richard,

If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually the best 
option),you don't need to do any coalescing on LMTs.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markham, Richard 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 
  PM
  Subject: RE: alert log suppression
  
  ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm running 
  8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires PCTINCREASE 
   0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you 
  have further to add to your post. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
  The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
  tablespaces 
  --- "Markham, Richard" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is it 
  possible to suppress successful DDL within the 
   alter log?  For example, I 
  have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces  
  which creates a couple line entry for each. I would  like to  get feedback only if the DDL 
  has actually failed.   
  TIA  
  = Connor McDonald http://www.oracledba.co.uk 
  http://www.oaktable.net 
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RE: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Deshpande, Kirti
Title: RE: alert log suppression



Coalescing LMTs is unnecessary ! 

- 
Kirti 

-Original Message-From: Markham, Richard 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
12:00 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
RE: alert log suppression
ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm running 
8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires PCTINCREASE 
 0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you have 
further to add to your post. 
-Original Message- From: Connor 
McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
tablespaces 
--- "Markham, Richard" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is it 
possible to suppress successful DDL within the 
 alter log?  For example, I 
have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces  
which creates a couple line entry for each. I would  like to  get feedback only if the DDL 
has actually failed.   
TIA  
= Connor McDonald http://www.oracledba.co.uk 
http://www.oaktable.net 
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to fish, and...he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day"
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RE: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: Message



Thanks 
for the info Igor. In addition to thisI am curious of how to 
determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM. dba_tablespaces shows 
allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM TS. TIA

  
  -Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
  1:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Re: alert log suppression
  Richard,
  
  If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually the best 
  option),you don't need to do any coalescing on LMTs.
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Markham, Richard 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 
PM
Subject: RE: alert log 
suppression

ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm 
running 8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires 
PCTINCREASE  0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you have further to add to your 
post. 
-Original Message- From: 
Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
tablespaces 
--- "Markham, Richard" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is 
it possible to suppress successful DDL within 
the  alter log?  For 
example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces  which creates a couple line entry for each. I would 
 like to  get feedback only 
if the DDL has actually failed.  
 TIA  

= Connor McDonald 
http://www.oracledba.co.uk http://www.oaktable.net 
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RE: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Wong, Bing
Title: RE: alert log suppression



If it 
is LMT, coalescing is ignored.

  -Original Message-From: Deshpande, Kirti 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
  10:34 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: alert log suppression
  Coalescing LMTs is unnecessary ! 
  
  - 
  Kirti 
  
  -Original Message-From: Markham, Richard 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
  12:00 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: alert log suppression
  ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm running 
  8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires PCTINCREASE 
   0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you 
  have further to add to your post. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
  The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
  tablespaces 
  --- "Markham, Richard" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is it 
  possible to suppress successful DDL within the 
   alter log?  For example, I 
  have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces  
  which creates a couple line entry for each. I would  like to  get feedback only if the DDL 
  has actually failed.   
  TIA  
  = Connor McDonald http://www.oracledba.co.uk 
  http://www.oaktable.net 
  "GIVE a man a fish and he will eat for a day. But TEACH him 
  how to fish, and...he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day"
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Re: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Igor Neyman
Title: Message



Richard,

I have here versions 8.1.5 and 9.2.
Both show allocation type "UNIFORM" for LMTs with uniform 
extent size (exceptLM SYSTEM and UNDO tablespaces in 9.2 , for which 
"SYSTEM" allocation type is shown), and allocation type "USER" for dictionary 
managed tablespaces.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markham, Richard 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 
  PM
  Subject: RE: alert log suppression
  
  Thanks for the info Igor. In addition to thisI am curious 
  of how to determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM. 
  dba_tablespaces shows allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM TS. 
  TIA
  

-Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
1:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
    ORACLE-LSubject: Re: alert log suppression
Richard,

If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually the 
best option),you don't need to do any coalescing on LMTs.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markham, Richard 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 
      PM
  Subject: RE: alert log 
  suppression
  
  ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm 
  running 8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires 
  PCTINCREASE  0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you have further to add to your 
  post. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
  The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
  tablespaces 
  --- "Markham, Richard" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is 
  it possible to suppress successful DDL within 
  the  alter log?  
  For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces 
   which creates a couple line entry for each. I 
  would  like to  
  get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed.   TIA  
  = Connor McDonald 
  http://www.oracledba.co.uk 
  http://www.oaktable.net 
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Re: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Arup Nanda
Title: Message



Rich,

You just gave the answer yourself, allocation_type 
in dba_tablespaces should show UNIFORM for uniform extent allocation. For 
non-uniform allocation, it will show SYSTEM in that field. If you want to know 
what is the size of the uniform extent, look for INITIAL_EXTENT and NEXT_EXTENT; 
they should be same.

HTH.

Arup

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markham, Richard 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 
  PM
  Subject: RE: alert log suppression
  
  Thanks for the info Igor. In addition to thisI am curious 
  of how to determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM. 
  dba_tablespaces shows allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM TS. 
  TIA
  

-Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
1:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-LSubject: Re: alert log suppression
Richard,

If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually the 
best option),you don't need to do any coalescing on LMTs.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 




  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Markham, Richard 
  To: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 
  PM
  Subject: RE: alert log 
  suppression
  
  ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm 
  running 8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires 
  PCTINCREASE  0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you have further to add to your 
  post. 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
  The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
  tablespaces 
  --- "Markham, Richard" 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Is 
  it possible to suppress successful DDL within 
  the  alter log?  
  For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces 
   which creates a couple line entry for each. I 
  would  like to  
  get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed.   TIA  
  = Connor McDonald 
  http://www.oracledba.co.uk http://www.oaktable.net 
  "GIVE a man a fish and he will eat for a day. But TEACH 
  him how to fish, and...he will sit in a boat and drink beer all 
  day"
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RE: alert log suppression

2002-12-16 Thread Markham, Richard
Title: Message



ok 
good thats what I had expected, I found that the particular TS was created 
differently in another instance. Thanks for your time.

  
  -Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
  2:39 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Re: alert log suppression
  Richard,
  
  I have here versions 8.1.5 and 9.2.
  Both show allocation type "UNIFORM" for LMTs with uniform 
  extent size (exceptLM SYSTEM and UNDO tablespaces in 9.2 , for which 
  "SYSTEM" allocation type is shown), and allocation type "USER" for dictionary 
  managed tablespaces.
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Markham, Richard 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 

Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 
    PM
Subject: RE: alert log 
suppression

Thanks for the info Igor. In addition to thisI am curious 
of how to determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM. 
dba_tablespaces shows allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM TS. 
TIA

  
  -Original Message-From: Igor Neyman 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
  1:30 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
      ORACLE-LSubject: Re: alert log suppression
  Richard,
  
  If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually the 
  best option),you don't need to do any coalescing on 
  LMTs.
  
  Igor Neyman, OCP DBA[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Markham, Richard 
To: Multiple recipients of list 
ORACLE-L 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 
        1:00 PM
Subject: RE: alert log 
suppression

ok. They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0. I'm 
running 8.1.7.4 and I believe that SMON requires 
PCTINCREASE  0 to do routine coalescing.perhaps you have further to add to your 
post. 
-Original Message- From: 
Connor McDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM 
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
    Subject: Re: alert log suppression 
The obvious question being why you are coalescing 
tablespaces 
--- "Markham, Richard" 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  
Is it possible to suppress successful DDL within 
the  alter log?  
For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces 
 which creates a couple line entry for each. 
I would  like to  get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed. 
  TIA  
= Connor McDonald 
http://www.oracledba.co.uk http://www.oaktable.net 
"GIVE a man a fish and he will eat for a day. But TEACH 
him how to fish, and...he will sit in a boat and drink beer all 
day"
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