:RE: SQL*Plus in 10i
BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus?
Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good?
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Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 4:43 PM
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Subject:RE: SQL*Plus in 10i
They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use
that (and OEM)
for startup and shutdown
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
Mastering Oracle8i (Sybex)
The
Are you kidding? So what do we use to startup and shutdown db? OEM?
I don't think there is any truth to this one.
Richard
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Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
RF
How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...
--- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database
Nooo!!!
On Friday 30 August 2002 09:23, Freeman, Robert wrote:
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct
Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and
most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.
:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/
JP
On Friday 30 August 2002 18:23, you wrote:
Anyone else hear that
oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???
They got rid of SVRMGR.
ltiu
On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...
--- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone else hear that
think so?
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From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:09 PM
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Subject: Re: SQL*Plus in 10i
How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say
What would be the replacement??
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
oradim is only a windows thingy. Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or sqlplus depending on version. Are you saying that they are going to port oradim to *NIX??
Rodd
On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:
oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???
They got rid of SVRMGR.
Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy
Oracle Corp., with
Larry
Ellison taking the place of Steve Ballmer.
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thats the Stupid WINDOZE way.
joe
ltiu wrote:
oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???
They got rid of SVRMGR.
ltiu
On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...
--- Freeman, Robert
Why not? It's easy to use. It will increase Oracle's market share to the dumb
and dumber.
ltiu
On Friday 30 August 2002 12:24, you wrote:
oradim is only a windows thingy. Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl
or sqlplus depending on version. Are you saying that they are going to
port
Rumor ...
They might as well buy SUN along the way (and get rid of Java for good).
SUN's market cap is only $13B. MS got $300B.
On Friday 30 August 2002 12:44, Gogala, Mladen wrote:
Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy Oracle Corp., with
Larry Ellison taking the place of Steve
BTW: Anybody's using gqlplus?
Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good?
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Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and
most used
Having McNealy, Ellison and Gates working for the same company?
It would be somewhat like Heller's Milo Enterprises
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From: ltiu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 3:59 PM
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Subject: Re: SQL*Plus in 10i
And as for OEM, I've heard from several sources that Oracle is going to
position that product more and more to be THE database management
interface. It's going to start feeling like we are working on a
SQL Server database before you know it.
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database
They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use
that (and OEM)
for startup and shutdown. The SQL*Plus text and windows clinet I hear will
be gone.
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN
I've been looking for something like this too -- unfortunately it doesn't
work on my platform (UnixWare 7) out of the box, and I haven't had time to
figure out why not.
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Yes, Oracle will sell
McNealy, Ellison and Gates
Sounds like one of those injury law firms that advertises on late night
TV...
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle Database Architect
CSX Midtier Database Administration
Author
Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
Oracle9i New Features (Oracle
And how will they support automated jobs (i.e., cron) that use sqlplus??
I've already had to rewrite scripts from svrmgrl to sqlplus. I don't
want to go through that again.
I'm hoping, Robert, that you're just pulling everyone's leg :)
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Whoa, I've been
does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it
And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of
svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7 I believe.
--- ltiu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
oradim -startup -sid sid -pfile pfile_path ???
They got rid of
I can't code scripts to be run by the operations staff via OEM. I
don't want to give that much access to non-DBA staff.
I told Ken Jacobs this years ago when he said at an NYOUG meeting that
soon your database will be controlled from the web
--- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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: SQL*Plus in 10i
How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes
away?
and please don't say OEM...
--- Freeman, Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
RF
Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
Oracle
No it doesn't. oradim is used to create/start/stop oracle services.
There is no such thing as NT services on Unix.
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does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it
And it took a LOT
I wonder why there is no Oradim under Unix/Linux?
ltiu
On Friday 30 August 2002 19:23, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it
And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of
svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7 I
On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:23:27 -0800, you wrote:
Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
The story I heard is that only the Windows version, the one that wraps
a GUI around the command-line, goes away. The DOS version stays (or so
I've been told, but I forget by who).
Jonathan
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