RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-24 Thread Jared . Still

Yes I posted the wrong link.

Now I can't recall where I saw this info, and cannot find it.

Though SP4 on Win2k is supposed to cause some serious network latencies.

I will post the info if I come across it again.

Jared







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Jared
 
The URL refers to an alert for NT 4.0, Patrice is talking about Windows 2000 (which is also the MS flavour I'm having problems on), am I being blind here but those are 2 different products? If there is a similar alert for Windows2000 I'd certainly like to hear about it.
 
If anybody is interested in the original Failsafe issue then I can tell you that this morning Oracle have acknowledged it as being a bug (failsafe is looking for Oracle9 libraries!). Fix is "being worked on".
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You would be well advised to *not* install SP4. 

It will destroy network performance. 

Supposedly this can be corrected: 


http://tinyurl.com/odlw

or 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q249/7/99.asp&NoWebContent=1 

Jared 








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The latest service pack for Win2K is SP4. 
  
Patrice. 
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Good question, it's an Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one. 
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Tim, 
  
Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for Oracle?   
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the context. 
  
thanks! 
  
Tom Mercadante 
Oracle Certified Professional 
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From: Tim Onions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

To anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe, 
  
After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs fine but has had to be removed from failsafe. 
  
So two things: 
  
1 - if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch set 12 
2 - if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some thoughts on what is going on. 
  
Many thanks 
  
T¬ 
  
  




RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-24 Thread Tim Onions



Jared
 
The 
URL refers to an alert for NT 4.0, Patrice is talking about Windows 2000 (which 
is also the MS flavour I'm having problems on), am I being blind here but those 
are 2 different products? If there is a similar alert for Windows2000 I'd 
certainly like to hear about it.
 
If 
anybody is interested in the original Failsafe issue then I can tell you that 
this morning Oracle have acknowledged it as being a bug (failsafe is looking for 
Oracle9 libraries!). Fix is "being worked on".
T¬
 
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12
You would be well advised to *not* install SP4. It will destroy network performance. 
  Supposedly this can be corrected: 
  
  


  http://tinyurl.com/odlwor http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q249/7/99.asp&NoWebContent=1 
  Jared 
  


  
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patchset 12The latest service pack for Win2K is SP4.   Patrice. -Original 
  Message-From: Tim Onions 
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  12Good question, it's an 
  Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one. 
  _ Tim Onions Head of Oracle Development Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) ...the speech-to-data Application Service Provider Tel: +44.1684.312364 
  http://www.speechmachines.com 
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  Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 
  September 2003 12:50To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Cc: 
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  patchset 12Tim, 
    Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for 
  Oracle?   Sorry if it's a 
  dumb question, but I am lost in the context.   thanks!   
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified 
  Professional -Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
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  12To anybody using Oracle8i 
  and failsafe,   
  After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 
  on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster 
  administrator) stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop 
  it but not start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due 
  diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no 
  flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are 
  indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs fine 
  but has had to be removed from failsafe.   So two things:   1 - if you are 
  using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch set 
  12 2 - if you have applied patch 
  set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear 
  from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some 
  thoughts on what is going on.   Many thanks 
    T¬     
  


RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Mercadante, Thomas F



Tim,
 
Just 
curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for Oracle?  

Sorry 
if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the context.
 
thanks!
 
Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

  -Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
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  2003 8:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
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  12
  To 
  anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,
   
  After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server 
  failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being 
  able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - 
  saying things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence 
  exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no 
  flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support 
  are indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs 
  fine but has had to be removed from failsafe.
   
  So 
  two things:
   
  1 - 
  if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying 
  patch set 12
  2 - 
  if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with 
  failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for 
  a fix or share some thoughts on what is going on.
   
  Many 
  thanks
   
  T¬
   
  
 


RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Jared . Still

Hmm... so was I.

Posted the wrong URL, and now I can't recall where I saw this.

Anyway, SP4 on Windows 2000 is apparently doing bad things to network performance.









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I was talking about Windows2000 SP4, not NT Workstation / Server 4 SP4...
 
Patrice
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You would be well advised to *not* install SP4. 

It will destroy network performance. 

Supposedly this can be corrected: 


http://tinyurl.com/odlw

or 

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q249/7/99.asp&NoWebContent=1 

Jared 








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The latest service pack for Win2K is SP4. 
  
Patrice. 
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From: Tim Onions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

Good question, it's an Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one. 
_ 
Tim Onions 
Head of Oracle Development 
Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) 
.the speech-to-data Application Service Provider 
Tel: +44.1684.312364 
http://www.speechmachines.com 
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Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

Tim, 
  
Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for Oracle?   
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the context. 
  
thanks! 
  
Tom Mercadante 
Oracle Certified Professional 
-Original Message-
From: Tim Onions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

To anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe, 
  
After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs fine but has had to be removed from failsafe. 
  
So two things: 
  
1 - if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch set 12 
2 - if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some thoughts on what is going on. 
  
Many thanks 
  
T¬ 
  
  




RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J



I was 
talking about Windows2000 SP4, not NT Workstation / Server 4 
SP4...
 
Patrice

  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 
  2:45 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12You would be well advised to *not* install SP4. 
  It will destroy network 
  performance. Supposedly this can 
  be corrected: 
  


  http://tinyurl.com/odlwor http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q249/7/99.asp&NoWebContent=1 
  Jared 
  


  
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patchset 12The latest service pack for Win2K is SP4.   Patrice. -Original 
  Message-From: Tim Onions 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 
  2003 9:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
  12Good question, it's an 
  Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one. 
  _ Tim Onions Head of Oracle Development Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) ...the speech-to-data Application Service Provider Tel: +44.1684.312364 
  http://www.speechmachines.com 
  -Original Message-From: 
  Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 
  September 2003 12:50To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Cc: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and 
  patchset 12Tim, 
    Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for 
  Oracle?   Sorry if it's a 
  dumb question, but I am lost in the context.   thanks!   
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified 
  Professional -Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 
  2003 8:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
  12To anybody using Oracle8i 
  and failsafe,   
  After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 
  on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster 
  administrator) stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop 
  it but not start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due 
  diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no 
  flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are 
  indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs fine 
  but has had to be removed from failsafe.   So two things:   1 - if you are 
  using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch set 
  12 2 - if you have applied patch 
  set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear 
  from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some 
  thoughts on what is going on.   Many thanks 
    T¬     
  


RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Jared . Still

You would be well advised to *not* install SP4.

It will destroy network performance.

Supposedly this can be corrected:



http://tinyurl.com/odlw
or

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=http://support.microsoft.com:80/support/kb/articles/Q249/7/99.asp&NoWebContent=1

Jared









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The latest service pack for Win2K is SP4.
 
Patrice.
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From: Tim Onions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:55 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

Good question, it's an Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one.
_ 
Tim Onions 
Head of Oracle Development 
Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) 
...the speech-to-data Application Service Provider 
Tel: +44.1684.312364 
http://www.speechmachines.com 
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From: Mercadante, Thomas F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 23 September 2003 12:50
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

Tim,
 
Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for Oracle?  
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the context.
 
thanks!
 
Tom Mercadante 
Oracle Certified Professional 
-Original Message-
From: Tim Onions [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 8:40 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

To anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,
 
After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs fine but has had to be removed from failsafe.
 
So two things:
 
1 - if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch set 12
2 - if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some thoughts on what is going on.
 
Many thanks
 
T¬
 
 



RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Boivin, Patrice J



The 
latest service pack for Win2K is SP4.
 
Patrice.

  -Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 
  2003 9:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
  ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
  12
  Good 
  question, it's an Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one.
  _ Tim Onions Head of Oracle Development Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) ...the speech-to-data Application Service 
  Provider Tel: 
  +44.1684.312364 http://www.speechmachines.com 
  
-Original Message-From: Mercadante, Thomas F 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 September 2003 
12:50To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Cc: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe 
and patchset 12
Tim,
 
Just curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or 
for Oracle?  
Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the 
context.
 
thanks!
 
Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 

  -Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 
  23, 2003 8:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
      ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
  12
  To anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,
   
  After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv 
  server failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) 
  stopped being able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not 
  start it again - saying things like "file not found"!). All the due 
  diligence exercises have been done and I am convinced the 
  patching was no flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set 
  and Oracle support are indicating that others may be having the same 
  problem. My database runs fine but has had to be removed from 
  failsafe.
   
  So two things:
   
  1 - if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully 
  before applying patch set 12
  2 - if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or 
  unsuccessfully with failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put 
  pressure on Oracle for a fix or share some thoughts on what is going 
  on.
   
  Many thanks
   
  T¬
   
  
 



RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Tim Onions



Good 
question, it's an Oracle8i patchset not a Windows one.
_ Tim Onions Head of Oracle Development Speech Machines (A MedQuist Company) ...the speech-to-data Application Service 
Provider Tel: 
+44.1684.312364 http://www.speechmachines.com 

  -Original Message-From: Mercadante, Thomas F 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 23 September 2003 
  12:50To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Cc: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: Oracle8i, Failsafe and 
  patchset 12
  Tim,
   
  Just 
  curious - is Patchset 12 for Windows 2000, or for Oracle?  
  
  Sorry if it's a dumb question, but I am lost in the 
  context.
   
  thanks!
   
  Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional 
  
-Original Message-From: Tim Onions 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 
23, 2003 8:40 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list 
    ORACLE-LSubject: Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 
12
To 
anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,
 
After implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server 
failsafe configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being 
able to control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - 
saying things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence 
exercises have been done and I am convinced the patching was no 
flawed on my part. I suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support 
are indicating that others may be having the same problem. My database runs 
fine but has had to be removed from failsafe.
 
So 
two things:
 
1 
- if you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before 
applying patch set 12
2 
- if you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully 
with failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on 
Oracle for a fix or share some thoughts on what is going 
on.
 
Many thanks
 
T¬
 

   


Oracle8i, Failsafe and patchset 12

2003-09-23 Thread Tim Onions



To 
anybody using Oracle8i and failsafe,
 
After 
implementing 8.1.7.4 patchset 12 on my Windows 2000 adv server failsafe 
configuration failsafe (and MS Cluster administrator) stopped being able to 
control the Oracle service (it can stop it but not start it again - saying 
things like "file not found"!). All the due diligence exercises have been 
done and I am convinced the patching was no flawed on my part. I 
suspect a bug in the patch set and Oracle support are indicating that others may 
be having the same problem. My database runs fine but has had to be removed from 
failsafe.
 
So two 
things:
 
1 - if 
you are using failsafe and Oracle8i think very carefully before applying patch 
set 12
2 - if 
you have applied patch set 12 either successfully or unsuccessfully with 
failsafe I'd love to hear from you so I can either put pressure on Oracle for a 
fix or share some thoughts on what is going on.
 
Many 
thanks
 
T¬