Re: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?
--- Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? orakill. sqlnet.expire_timeout did not work on NT for 8.1.7. garbage middle-tier apps that don't close connections require the use of orakill. Pd oops. orakill takes the ORACLE_SID and v$session.sid as arguments. alter system kill session takes the sid and serial number as arguments. I'd only use alter system to kill a session if I could not access the server console. Pd __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Paul Drake INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?
Thank you for your answer. My question was more along the lines why doesn't kill session use audsid? Mr. Kangaraj provided the answer that audsid is 0 for some sessions, or, in older databases, when AUDIT_TRAIL is not TRUE. My question would then be: why doesn't auditing use SID/SERIAL# instead of creating a new session identifier? But presumably only an Oracle developer could answer that question. -Original Message- Paul Drake Sent: mardi, 7. octobre 2003 00:54 --- Paul Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? orakill. sqlnet.expire_timeout did not work on NT for 8.1.7. garbage middle-tier apps that don't close connections require the use of orakill. Pd oops. orakill takes the ORACLE_SID and v$session.sid as arguments. alter system kill session takes the sid and serial number as arguments. I'd only use alter system to kill a session if I could not access the server console. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jacques Kilchoer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?
Jacques, In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? Can someone give an example where a session-level command would be applied to an incorrect session object if SERIAL# were not available? For backward compatibility reasons :) Looks like AUDSID wasn't generated 7.2 and prior unless AUDIT_TRAIL was TRUE (even if you don't use auditing). A lot of scripts use SERIAL# and the ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION uses the serial#, which should always be available. Why not use AUDSID all the time? Is there a reason why the database keeps track of two session identifying numbers? AUDSID is 0 if connecting as internal. Notes 123128.1 and 122230.1 may help! John Kanagaraj DB Soft Inc Phone: 408-970-7002 (W) Listen to great, commercial-free christian music 24x7x365 at http://www.klove.com ** The opinions and facts contained in this message are entirely mine and do not reflect those of my employer or customers ** -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: John Kanagaraj INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
RE: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?
Thank you John. I guess I can revise my question, then, to say Why not use SID/SERIAL# all the time? :) I suppose there are reasons but it seems unnecessary to have two sets of values that uniquely identify a session. Though of course, from the documentation, AUDSID is unique over the lifetime of the database (generated from sequence SYS.AUDSES$) and SID/SERIAL# would not be unique over the lifetime of the database. -Original Message- John Kanagaraj Sent: lundi, 6. octobre 2003 15:59 In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? Can someone give an example where a session-level command would be applied to an incorrect session object if SERIAL# were not available? For backward compatibility reasons :) Looks like AUDSID wasn't generated 7.2 and prior unless AUDIT_TRAIL was TRUE (even if you don't use auditing). A lot of scripts use SERIAL# and the ALTER SYSTEM KILL SESSION uses the serial#, which should always be available. Why not use AUDSID all the time? Is there a reason why the database keeps track of two session identifying numbers? AUDSID is 0 if connecting as internal. Notes 123128.1 and 122230.1 may help! -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jacques Kilchoer INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
Re: sid/serial# vs. audsid: why both?
--- Jacques Kilchoer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In what cases does the SERIAL# need to be used? orakill. sqlnet.expire_timeout did not work on NT for 8.1.7. garbage middle-tier apps that don't close connections require the use of orakill. Pd __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Paul Drake INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services-- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California-- Mailing list and web hosting services - To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
