Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-17 Thread Daniel Hanks
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Carel-Jan Engel wrote:

> 
> > On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Carel-Jan Engel wrote:
> >> Does this tool have the same 'functionality'? So, be carefull, or take
> >> advantage of it ;-).
> >
> > Nope, the only history it stores are the commands you type once the
> > program it execs is fired up. Now, if you connect scott/tiger from within
> > sqlplus, you're on thin ice, but I usually specify which user/db I'm
> > connecting to on the command-line and let SQL*Plus ask me for my password.
> 
> So, what happens when SQL*Plus asks for your password? Doesn't that entry
> get recorded as well?

Nope. It appears the program is smart enough to ignore that line.

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Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-17 Thread Carel-Jan Engel

> On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Carel-Jan Engel wrote:
>> Does this tool have the same 'functionality'? So, be carefull, or take
>> advantage of it ;-).
>
> Nope, the only history it stores are the commands you type once the
> program it execs is fired up. Now, if you connect scott/tiger from within
> sqlplus, you're on thin ice, but I usually specify which user/db I'm
> connecting to on the command-line and let SQL*Plus ask me for my password.

So, what happens when SQL*Plus asks for your password? Doesn't that entry
get recorded as well?

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Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-16 Thread Jared Still
And it has the added benefit of working properly on my
system, while uniread does not.

Jared

On Tue, 2003-12-16 at 16:49, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> Daniel, there is gqlplus which does have readline. Look at the 
> http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/
> On 2003.12.16 17:09, Daniel Hanks wrote:
> > I know there's a lot of folks who grumble about the spartan-ness of SQL*Plus, but 
> > the only real feature I wish it had was GNU readline capability for command 
> > history and editing. I've looked at some wrappers (yasql, gasql), as well as 
> > replacements (henplus, which is quite nice, actually), but today I found something 
> > that seems to do exactly what I really want--SQL*Plus behavior, augmented with 
> > readline support (So I can still do stuff like output formatting, spooling, etc., 
> > etc.,). Yes, I actually dig SQL*Plus, just wish it had readline.
> > 
> > So today I found a little utility called uniread:
> > 
> > http://sourceforge.net/projects/uniread/
> > 
> > It's a Perl program that
> > 
> > "adds full readline support (command editing, history, etc.) to any existing 
> > interactive command-line program. Common examples are Oracle's sqlplus or jython. 
> > uniread will work on any POSIX platform with Perl."
> > 
> > I tried it out with SQL*plus, and so far seems to work beautifully. Just thought 
> > I'd share.
> > 
> > -- Dan
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Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-16 Thread Mladen Gogala
Daniel, there is gqlplus which does have readline. Look at the 
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/
On 2003.12.16 17:09, Daniel Hanks wrote:
> I know there's a lot of folks who grumble about the spartan-ness of SQL*Plus, but 
> the only real feature I wish it had was GNU readline capability for command history 
> and editing. I've looked at some wrappers (yasql, gasql), as well as replacements 
> (henplus, which is quite nice, actually), but today I found something that seems to 
> do exactly what I really want--SQL*Plus behavior, augmented with readline support 
> (So I can still do stuff like output formatting, spooling, etc., etc.,). Yes, I 
> actually dig SQL*Plus, just wish it had readline.
> 
> So today I found a little utility called uniread:
> 
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/uniread/
> 
> It's a Perl program that
> 
> "adds full readline support (command editing, history, etc.) to any existing 
> interactive command-line program. Common examples are Oracle's sqlplus or jython. 
> uniread will work on any POSIX platform with Perl."
> 
> I tried it out with SQL*plus, and so far seems to work beautifully. Just thought I'd 
> share.
> 
> -- Dan
> 
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Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-16 Thread Daniel Hanks
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, Carel-Jan Engel wrote:

> Don't know this particular one, but ran into a shell on HP-UX with similar 
> capabilities. I was a developer those days, and the feature I liked most 
> was its capability to  unveil sys/system passwords. Just get this shell 
> running and ask the DBA to do something from your terminal. After that, the 
> non-echoed password will be perfectly visible in command-line history 
> (after the DBA left the scene, of course). They never found out how we were 
> able to discover their passwords. I think it's now safe to spread the 
> knowledge around.
> 
Heh. Yeah, there's something on Linux called 'script' that would do that. Basically 
spawns a shell and sends all the output from that session to a file.

> Does this tool have the same 'functionality'? So, be carefull, or take 
> advantage of it ;-).

Nope, the only history it stores are the commands you type once the program it execs 
is fired up. Now, if you connect scott/tiger from within sqlplus, you're on thin ice, 
but I usually specify which user/db I'm connecting to on the command-line and let 
SQL*Plus ask me for my password.

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Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-16 Thread Denny Koovakattu

  On HPUX the ied utility enables command history. Everything you type will be
logged to the HISTORY file unless you specify one.

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Quoting Carel-Jan Engel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> At 14:09 16-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
> >I know there's a lot of folks who grumble about the spartan-ness of 
> >SQL*Plus, but the only real feature I wish it had was GNU readline 
> >capability for command history and editing. I've looked at some wrappers 
> >(yasql, gasql), as well as replacements (henplus, which is quite nice, 
> >actually), but today I found something that seems to do exactly what I 
> >really want--SQL*Plus behavior, augmented with readline support (So I can 
> >still do stuff like output formatting, spooling, etc., etc.,). Yes, I 
> >actually dig SQL*Plus, just wish it had readline.
> >
> >So today I found a little utility called uniread:
> >
> >http://sourceforge.net/projects/uniread/
> >
> >It's a Perl program that
> >
> >"adds full readline support (command editing, history, etc.) to any 
> >existing interactive command-line program. Common examples are Oracle's 
> >sqlplus or jython. uniread will work on any POSIX platform with Perl."
> >
> >I tried it out with SQL*plus, and so far seems to work beautifully. Just 
> >thought I'd share.
> >
> >-- Dan
> >
> >Daniel Hanks - Systems/Database Administrator
> >About Inc., Web Services Division
> >
> 
> Don't know this particular one, but ran into a shell on HP-UX with similar 
> capabilities. I was a developer those days, and the feature I liked most 
> was its capability to  unveil sys/system passwords. Just get this shell 
> running and ask the DBA to do something from your terminal. After that, the
> 
> non-echoed password will be perfectly visible in command-line history 
> (after the DBA left the scene, of course). They never found out how we were
> 
> able to discover their passwords. I think it's now safe to spread the 
> knowledge around.
> 
> Does this tool have the same 'functionality'? So, be carefull, or take 
> advantage of it ;-).
> 
> 
> Regards, Carel-Jan
> 
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Re: SQL*Plus with readline

2003-12-16 Thread Carel-Jan Engel
At 14:09 16-12-03 -0800, you wrote:
I know there's a lot of folks who grumble about the spartan-ness of 
SQL*Plus, but the only real feature I wish it had was GNU readline 
capability for command history and editing. I've looked at some wrappers 
(yasql, gasql), as well as replacements (henplus, which is quite nice, 
actually), but today I found something that seems to do exactly what I 
really want--SQL*Plus behavior, augmented with readline support (So I can 
still do stuff like output formatting, spooling, etc., etc.,). Yes, I 
actually dig SQL*Plus, just wish it had readline.

So today I found a little utility called uniread:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/uniread/

It's a Perl program that

"adds full readline support (command editing, history, etc.) to any 
existing interactive command-line program. Common examples are Oracle's 
sqlplus or jython. uniread will work on any POSIX platform with Perl."

I tried it out with SQL*plus, and so far seems to work beautifully. Just 
thought I'd share.

-- Dan

   Daniel Hanks - Systems/Database Administrator
   About Inc., Web Services Division

Don't know this particular one, but ran into a shell on HP-UX with similar 
capabilities. I was a developer those days, and the feature I liked most 
was its capability to  unveil sys/system passwords. Just get this shell 
running and ask the DBA to do something from your terminal. After that, the 
non-echoed password will be perfectly visible in command-line history 
(after the DBA left the scene, of course). They never found out how we were 
able to discover their passwords. I think it's now safe to spread the 
knowledge around.

Does this tool have the same 'functionality'? So, be carefull, or take 
advantage of it ;-).

Regards, Carel-Jan

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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-07 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
I'm sure there are many ways to perform complex validations a shell
script. And I needed a simple solution so I opted for the easy way. 

Unfortunately, I'm not an expert shell programmer yet. Fortunately, I
did receive many good suggestions from the list to help me progress in
my quest to learn Korn Shell.

Thanks,
Saira

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Mladen Gogala  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

> The "sleeping beauty" suggestion works extremely well, if you are
> patient. Patience, you know, is a virtue and my goal is to promote
> fair and balanced view to the database.

me, i want my patience RIGHT NOW!;-)

BTW, is there any chance of validating the input before it gets passed
to
the procedure?

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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-07 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
Hee hee... I am indeed a novice, but I make fairly sound judgments based
on the name of a function :)


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Don't tell me you tried it   

MG, another feather for your Cap ...

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I like this solution. It works way better than the
dbms_lock.sleep() suggestion ;) 
 
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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-07 Thread Thater, William
Mladen Gogala  scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

> The "sleeping beauty" suggestion works extremely well, if you are
> patient. Patience, you know, is a virtue and my goal is to promote
> fair and balanced view to the database.

me, i want my patience RIGHT NOW!;-)

BTW, is there any chance of validating the input before it gets passed to
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Re: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-07 Thread Mladen Gogala
The "sleeping beauty" suggestion works extremely well, if you are patient.
Patience, you know, is a virtue and my goal is to promote fair and balanced
view to the database.

On 11/07/2003 09:17:12 AM, Saira Somani-Mendelin wrote:
> I like this solution. It works way better than the
> dbms_lock.sleep() suggestion ;) 
> 


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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-07 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-07 Thread Saira Somani-Mendelin
I like this solution. It works way better than the
dbms_lock.sleep() suggestion ;) 

 
Thank you. 
Saira

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Catch the error in an exception clause and ignore it.

SQL> set serveroutput on
SQL> run
  1  declare
  2 x number ;
  3  begin
  4 x := to_number ('123^') ;
  5  exception
  6 when value_error
  7 then
  8dbms_output.put_line ('Bad Number') ;
  9 when others
 10 then
 11raise ;
 12* end ;
Bad Number
Procedura PL/SQL completata correttamente.

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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Stephen.Lee

If the data is supposed to be strictly numeric, you can intercept the bad
data prior to running the sql.

X=''
while [ -z "$X" ]; do
echo ""
echo "Enter a number or Q to quit"
read X
if [ "$X" = "Q" ]; then
echo "Exiting ..."
exit 0
fi
if [ -z "$X" ]; then
echo ""
echo "That was a blank entry. Try again."
echo ""
continue
fi
if  [ -n "`echo $X | sed -n '/[^0-9]/p'`" ]; then
echo ""
echo "You entered at least one non-numeric character."
echo "You entered ->${X}<-"
echo "Try again."
echo ""
X=""
continue
fi
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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Bellow, Bambi
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Why not do

whenever sqlerror exit 1

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You might be inclined to try something like:
DECLARE
...
BEGIN
.
EXCEPTION
WHEN INVALID_NUMBER THEN
  DBMS_LOCK.SLEEP(365*24*3600);
END;
/



On 11/06/2003 03:44:26 PM, Saira Somani-Mendelin wrote:
> List,
> 
> I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which executes a
> procedure) based on user input. 
> 
> But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
> handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
> an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I do this? I
> have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:
> 
> PO Reconciliation Batch Release
> 
> 
> Enter batch number to be released:
> yrugis
> You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
> **[I want to suppress the errors below]**
> BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;
> 
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-01722: invalid number
> ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
> ORA-06512: at line 1
> 
> Thanks,
> Saira
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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra
most appropriate way is to use a 

begin
  ..
  exception
when invalid_number then
  dbms_output.put_line('Sorry, a batch number must be numeric, please try again.');
when ...
..
end 

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Saira,

How about use the same method as suggested in another thread, i.e. pipe and
remove unwanted text? In your case

whatever comes in | sed -n '/^BEGIN/,/^ORA-06512: at line/!p'

Yong Huang

--- Saira Somani-Mendelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> List,
> 
> I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which executes a
> procedure) based on user input. 
> 
> But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
> handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
> an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I do this? I
> have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:
> 
> PO Reconciliation Batch Release
> 
> 
> Enter batch number to be released:
> yrugis
> You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
> **[I want to suppress the errors below]**
> BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;
> 
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-01722: invalid number
> ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
> ORA-06512: at line 1
> 
> Thanks,
> Saira

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Re: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Krishna Kakatur

See the Code below. It worked fine for me.

Probably you have a raise_exception_error somewhere in the procedure.

SQL> create procedure RELEASE_PO_B_H ( in_number varchar2 ) is
  2v_number number;
  3  begin
  4v_number := in_number;
  5  exception
  6when value_error then
  7  dbms_output.put_line('You have entered an invalid number! Exiting 
program...');
  8  end;
  9  /

Procedure created.

$ cat RELEASE_PO_B_H.csh
#!/bin/csh

sqlplus -s  < 
> List,
> 
> I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which executes a
> procedure) based on user input.
> 
> But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
> handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
> an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I do this? I
> have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:
> 
> PO Reconciliation Batch Release
> 
> 
> Enter batch number to be released:
> yrugis
> You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
> **[I want to suppress the errors below]**
> BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;
> 
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-01722: invalid number
> ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
> ORA-06512: at line 1
> 
> Thanks,
> Saira
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Re: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Mladen Gogala
You might be inclined to try something like:
DECLARE
...
BEGIN
.
EXCEPTION
WHEN INVALID_NUMBER THEN
  DBMS_LOCK.SLEEP(365*24*3600);
END;
/



On 11/06/2003 03:44:26 PM, Saira Somani-Mendelin wrote:
> List,
> 
> I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which executes a
> procedure) based on user input. 
> 
> But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
> handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
> an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I do this? I
> have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:
> 
> PO Reconciliation Batch Release
> 
> 
> Enter batch number to be released:
> yrugis
> You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
> **[I want to suppress the errors below]**
> BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;
> 
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-01722: invalid number
> ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
> ORA-06512: at line 1
> 
> Thanks,
> Saira
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Re: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Yong Huang
Saira,

How about use the same method as suggested in another thread, i.e. pipe and
remove unwanted text? In your case

whatever comes in | sed -n '/^BEGIN/,/^ORA-06512: at line/!p'

Yong Huang

--- Saira Somani-Mendelin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> List,
> 
> I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which executes a
> procedure) based on user input. 
> 
> But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
> handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
> an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I do this? I
> have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:
> 
> PO Reconciliation Batch Release
> 
> 
> Enter batch number to be released:
> yrugis
> You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
> **[I want to suppress the errors below]**
> BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;
> 
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-01722: invalid number
> ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
> ORA-06512: at line 1
> 
> Thanks,
> Saira

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Re: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Jared . Still

If you're familiar with Perl and DBI, that would be a good solution.

You can quite easily hide errors that way.

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List,

I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which executes a
procedure) based on user input. 

But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I do this? I
have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:

PO Reconciliation Batch Release


Enter batch number to be released:
yrugis
You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
**[I want to suppress the errors below]**
BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;

*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-01722: invalid number
ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
ORA-06512: at line 1

Thanks,
Saira

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RE: SQL*Plus errors... how to hide?

2003-11-06 Thread Jacques Kilchoer
Catch the error in an exception clause and ignore it.

SQL> set serveroutput on
SQL> run
  1  declare
  2 x number ;
  3  begin
  4 x := to_number ('123^') ;
  5  exception
  6 when value_error
  7 then
  8dbms_output.put_line ('Bad Number') ;
  9 when others
 10 then
 11raise ;
 12* end ;
Bad Number
Procedura PL/SQL completata correttamente.

> -Original Message-
> Saira Somani-Mendelin
> 
> I have a shell script that executes a sql*plus script (which 
> executes a
> procedure) based on user input. 
> 
> But what if the user inputs an invalid datatype? The exception section
> handles the error and displays a user-friendly message but I still get
> an error stack. I want to hide this from the user. How can I 
> do this? I
> have set feedback and echo options off.  See output below:
> 
> PO Reconciliation Batch Release
> 
> 
> Enter batch number to be released:
> yrugis
> You have entered an invalid number! Exiting program...
> **[I want to suppress the errors below]**
> BEGIN RELEASE_PO_B_H('yrugis'); END;
> 
> *
> ERROR at line 1:
> ORA-01722: invalid number
> ORA-06512: at "TRAIN65D.RELEASE_PO_B_H", line 16
> ORA-06512: at line 1
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RE: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 'Connected

2003-11-06 Thread Stephen.Lee

My reply was probably a bit too brief.  The most robust way for doing this
would be to use pattern matching utilities such as sed and awk (Perl? What's
Perl?) to parse that output for stuff like
ORA- (N is a digit of a number)
TNS-
SP-
etc.

But for a quick and dirty approach, select an additional dummy word in the
select statement then parse for that word as the first word in the line;
that's what the "read" statement does for you.  You could add another
condition outside the "while read" loop to see if the value you got is
reasonable.  For example set MY_VARIABLE='BROKE' before running sqlplus,
then see if MY_VARIABLE is still BROKE or empty when the loop is done.

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> I take back that statement of mine. Gotta take Unix lessons.
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RE: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 'Connected

2003-11-05 Thread Charu Joshi

-- I don't know if a return value can be gathered in a
-- shell variable except by using ` chars.


Sorry, Stephen had already mentioned one other way:



} | while read DOINK LINE; do
if [ "$DOINK" = "DOINK" ]; then
DBNAME="$LINE"  # << Will do.



I take back that statement of mine. Gotta take Unix lessons.

Thanks & regards,
Charu.

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'Connected

Thanks Stephen,

The reason for using ` characters was because I wanted the output
(a filename) in a variable. After that, the variable would be
passed to other scripts for file creation, FTP etc. I don't know
if a return value can be gathered in a shell variable except by
using ` chars.

I was trying to suppress 'Connected.' line using SQL*Plus itself.
Once Stephane suggested grep (i.e. suppress from Unix),
possibilities broadened considerably. I will keep the 'while read'
option in mind for future.

Thanks & regards,
Charu.

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'Connected

Rather than try to get output using the ` characters, see what you
can do
with this method:

{
sqlplus -s <<-XXX
$USER/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set heading off feedback off trims on lines 300 pages 
set whatever else
do this;
do that;
do the other thing;
XXX
} | while read LINE; do
parse $LINE with sed, awk, whatever
if [ this is true ]; then
do something
fi
done

If all you want is to do a simple select that is supposed to
return one
line, one cheap, but not especially robust, way of doing it is
like

{
sqlplus -s <<-XXX
$USER/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set heading off feedback off trims on lines 300 pages 
set whatever else
select 'DOINK',name from v$database;
-- or select 'DOINK '||name from v$database;
XXX
} | while read DOINK LINE; do
if [ "$DOINK" = "DOINK" ]; then
DBNAME="$LINE"
fi
done

Now, if one is proficient in sed and awk, more elegant and robust
means can
be devised.

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> From: Charu Joshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress
> 'Connected.'
> message?
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am calling SQL*Plus from a unix shell script and storing the
> results of the query executed in a shell variable. It goes like
> this:
>
> FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog SET FEEDBACK OFF
>SET VERIFY OFF
>SET PAGESIZE 0
>
>CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
>
>SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.. unrelated to
> the question.
>
>EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
> EndOfSQL`
>
> But the contents of the FL_SUFFIX are 'Connected.' instead of
the
> value returned by the query.
>
> This is obviously because of the 'CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS'
> statement. Is there a way to suppress the 'Connected.' message
> that comes on connecting to database?
>
> I have thought about 2 solutions:
>
> 1. Use sqlplus -s $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS :- This would be the last
> alternative in case everything else fails .. obviously from
> security point of view.
>
> 2. Create a .sql script as:
>
> SET ECHO OFF
> SET FEEDBACK OFF
> SET VERIFY OFF
> SET PAGESIZE 0
>
> SET TERMOUT OFF  -- The important bits.
> SPOOL /dev/null  --
> CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
> SPOOL OFF  --
> SET TERMOUT ON -- The important bits.
>
> SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.
>
> EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
> and then call this script as
>
> FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog @a.sql`
>
> I think solution 2 will work, but I am loathe to writing a
script
> for a single SQL statement unless there is no other way.
>
> Any new ideas would be greatly appreciated, the quicker the
> better.
>
> Thanks & regards,
> Charu.
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RE: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 'Connected

2003-11-05 Thread Charu Joshi
Thanks Stephen,

The reason for using ` characters was because I wanted the output
(a filename) in a variable. After that, the variable would be
passed to other scripts for file creation, FTP etc. I don't know
if a return value can be gathered in a shell variable except by
using ` chars.

I was trying to suppress 'Connected.' line using SQL*Plus itself.
Once Stephane suggested grep (i.e. suppress from Unix),
possibilities broadened considerably. I will keep the 'while read'
option in mind for future.

Thanks & regards,
Charu.

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'Connected

Rather than try to get output using the ` characters, see what you
can do
with this method:

{
sqlplus -s <<-XXX
$USER/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set heading off feedback off trims on lines 300 pages 
set whatever else
do this;
do that;
do the other thing;
XXX
} | while read LINE; do
parse $LINE with sed, awk, whatever
if [ this is true ]; then
do something
fi
done

If all you want is to do a simple select that is supposed to
return one
line, one cheap, but not especially robust, way of doing it is
like

{
sqlplus -s <<-XXX
$USER/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set heading off feedback off trims on lines 300 pages 
set whatever else
select 'DOINK',name from v$database;
-- or select 'DOINK '||name from v$database;
XXX
} | while read DOINK LINE; do
if [ "$DOINK" = "DOINK" ]; then
DBNAME="$LINE"
fi
done

Now, if one is proficient in sed and awk, more elegant and robust
means can
be devised.

> -Original Message-
> From: Charu Joshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:05 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress
> 'Connected.'
> message?
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I am calling SQL*Plus from a unix shell script and storing the
> results of the query executed in a shell variable. It goes like
> this:
>
> FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog SET FEEDBACK OFF
>SET VERIFY OFF
>SET PAGESIZE 0
>
>CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
>
>SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.. unrelated to
> the question.
>
>EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
> EndOfSQL`
>
> But the contents of the FL_SUFFIX are 'Connected.' instead of
the
> value returned by the query.
>
> This is obviously because of the 'CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS'
> statement. Is there a way to suppress the 'Connected.' message
> that comes on connecting to database?
>
> I have thought about 2 solutions:
>
> 1. Use sqlplus -s $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS :- This would be the last
> alternative in case everything else fails .. obviously from
> security point of view.
>
> 2. Create a .sql script as:
>
> SET ECHO OFF
> SET FEEDBACK OFF
> SET VERIFY OFF
> SET PAGESIZE 0
>
> SET TERMOUT OFF  -- The important bits.
> SPOOL /dev/null  --
> CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
> SPOOL OFF  --
> SET TERMOUT ON -- The important bits.
>
> SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.
>
> EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
> and then call this script as
>
> FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog @a.sql`
>
> I think solution 2 will work, but I am loathe to writing a
script
> for a single SQL statement unless there is no other way.
>
> Any new ideas would be greatly appreciated, the quicker the
> better.
>
> Thanks & regards,
> Charu.
>
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RE: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 'Connected

2003-11-05 Thread Stephen.Lee

Rather than try to get output using the ` characters, see what you can do
with this method:

{
sqlplus -s <<-XXX
$USER/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set heading off feedback off trims on lines 300 pages 
set whatever else
do this;
do that;
do the other thing;
XXX
} | while read LINE; do
parse $LINE with sed, awk, whatever
if [ this is true ]; then
do something
fi
done

If all you want is to do a simple select that is supposed to return one
line, one cheap, but not especially robust, way of doing it is like


{
sqlplus -s <<-XXX
$USER/[EMAIL PROTECTED]
set heading off feedback off trims on lines 300 pages 
set whatever else
select 'DOINK',name from v$database;
-- or select 'DOINK '||name from v$database;
XXX
} | while read DOINK LINE; do
if [ "$DOINK" = "DOINK" ]; then
DBNAME="$LINE"
fi
done

Now, if one is proficient in sed and awk, more elegant and robust means can
be devised.


> -Original Message-
> From: Charu Joshi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 6:05 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 
> 'Connected.'
> message?
> 
> 
> Hello all,
> 
> I am calling SQL*Plus from a unix shell script and storing the
> results of the query executed in a shell variable. It goes like
> this:
> 
> FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog SET FEEDBACK OFF
>SET VERIFY OFF
>SET PAGESIZE 0
> 
>CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
> 
>SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.. unrelated to
> the question.
> 
>EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
> 
> EndOfSQL`
> 
> But the contents of the FL_SUFFIX are 'Connected.' instead of the
> value returned by the query.
> 
> This is obviously because of the 'CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS'
> statement. Is there a way to suppress the 'Connected.' message
> that comes on connecting to database?
> 
> I have thought about 2 solutions:
> 
> 1. Use sqlplus -s $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS :- This would be the last
> alternative in case everything else fails .. obviously from
> security point of view.
> 
> 2. Create a .sql script as:
> 
> SET ECHO OFF
> SET FEEDBACK OFF
> SET VERIFY OFF
> SET PAGESIZE 0
> 
> SET TERMOUT OFF  -- The important bits.
> SPOOL /dev/null  --
> CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
> SPOOL OFF  --
> SET TERMOUT ON -- The important bits.
> 
> SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.
> 
> EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
> 
> and then call this script as
> 
> FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog @a.sql`
> 
> I think solution 2 will work, but I am loathe to writing a script
> for a single SQL statement unless there is no other way.
> 
> Any new ideas would be greatly appreciated, the quicker the
> better.
> 
> Thanks & regards,
> Charu.
> 
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RE: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 'Connected.' message?

2003-11-05 Thread Charu Joshi
Thanks Stephane,

Your solution 3 has done the job for me.

Regards,
Charu.

-Original Message-
Stephane Faroult
Sent: 05 November 2003 18:10
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
'Connected.' message?

You have multiple solutions; one would be to use an externally identified Oracle 
account; another one to use the hide.c program (should find it with google) to prevent 
people from seeing command arguments through 'ps'; another one to write something such 
as

myvar=`echo "your stuff here
 blabla
 exit" | sqlplus -s /nolog | grep -iv connected`

. just a few ideas.

HTH

SF

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: "Charu Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:04:38
>
>Hello all,
>
>I am calling SQL*Plus from a unix shell script and
>storing the
>results of the query executed in a shell variable.
>It goes like
>this:
>
>FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog <   SET ECHO OFF
>   SET FEEDBACK OFF
>   SET VERIFY OFF
>   SET PAGESIZE 0
>
>   CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
>
>   SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query..
>unrelated to
>the question.
>
>   EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
>EndOfSQL`
>
>But the contents of the FL_SUFFIX are 'Connected.'
>instead of the
>value returned by the query.
>
>This is obviously because of the 'CONN
>$ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS'
>statement. Is there a way to suppress the
>'Connected.' message
>that comes on connecting to database?
>
>I have thought about 2 solutions:
>
>1. Use sqlplus -s $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS :- This would
>be the last
>alternative in case everything else fails ..
>obviously from
>security point of view.
>
>2. Create a .sql script as:
>
>SET ECHO OFF
>SET FEEDBACK OFF
>SET VERIFY OFF
>SET PAGESIZE 0
>
>SET TERMOUT OFF  -- The important bits.
>SPOOL /dev/null  --
>CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
>SPOOL OFF  --
>SET TERMOUT ON -- The important bits.
>
>SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.
>
>EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
>and then call this script as
>
>FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog @a.sql`
>
>I think solution 2 will work, but I am loathe to
>writing a script
>for a single SQL statement unless there is no other
>way.
>
>Any new ideas would be greatly appreciated, the
>quicker the
>better.
>
>Thanks & regards,
>Charu.
>
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RE: SQL*Plus question - a bit urgent - Can we suppress 'Connected.' message?

2003-11-05 Thread Stephane Faroult
You have multiple solutions; one would be to use an externally identified Oracle 
account; another one to use the hide.c program (should find it with google) to prevent 
people from seeing command arguments through 'ps'; another one to write something such 
as

myvar=`echo "your stuff here
 blabla
 exit" | sqlplus -s /nolog | grep -iv connected`

.. just a few ideas.

HTH

SF

>- --- Original Message --- -
>From: "Charu Joshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 04:04:38
>
>Hello all,
>
>I am calling SQL*Plus from a unix shell script and
>storing the
>results of the query executed in a shell variable.
>It goes like
>this:
>
>FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog <   SET ECHO OFF
>   SET FEEDBACK OFF
>   SET VERIFY OFF
>   SET PAGESIZE 0
>
>   CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
>
>   SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query..
>unrelated to
>the question.
>
>   EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
>EndOfSQL`
>
>But the contents of the FL_SUFFIX are 'Connected.'
>instead of the
>value returned by the query.
>
>This is obviously because of the 'CONN
>$ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS'
>statement. Is there a way to suppress the
>'Connected.' message
>that comes on connecting to database?
>
>I have thought about 2 solutions:
>
>1. Use sqlplus -s $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS :- This would
>be the last
>alternative in case everything else fails ..
>obviously from
>security point of view.
>
>2. Create a .sql script as:
>
>SET ECHO OFF
>SET FEEDBACK OFF
>SET VERIFY OFF
>SET PAGESIZE 0
>
>SET TERMOUT OFF  -- The important bits.
>SPOOL /dev/null  --
>CONN $ORA_ID/$ORA_PASS
>SPOOL OFF  --
>SET TERMOUT ON -- The important bits.
>
>SELECT dummy FROM dual; -- Dummy query.
>
>EXIT SQL.SQLCODE
>
>and then call this script as
>
>FL_SUFFIX=`sqlplus -s /nolog @a.sql`
>
>I think solution 2 will work, but I am loathe to
>writing a script
>for a single SQL statement unless there is no other
>way.
>
>Any new ideas would be greatly appreciated, the
>quicker the
>better.
>
>Thanks & regards,
>Charu.
>
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RE: SQL*PLUS buffer width and buffer length stored where ??

2003-11-04 Thread Bob Metelsky
Interesting finding here

ORCL9 SQL> Store set C:\oracle\ora92\dbs\login.sql
Or if the file exists
ORCL9 SQL> Store set C:\oracle\ora92\dbs\login.sql append

That generates a substantial config file, much more than a standard
login

I have to test if it actually keeps the buffer width and length. I don't
see it in there, though.

Bob

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Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

All, I have the issue with setting a basic format in sql plus

In my login.sql I have set line size 1000

Say I have a have a table with 20 columns and I 
select * from table where rownum <=2

What happens is I can't scroll the data... (The horizontal scroll is
locked)) Unless I go into 

Options>environment>
Screen buffer width 900
Screen buffer length 899

This works in my environment however Id like to roll out a default
login.sql to users or have the ability to set the sessions for them.

I've search online and there doesn't seem a way to set the buffer width
from a config file, only through the gui. I'm sure someone here knows
that, or has a "complete" login.sql file to have the ability to enable
the horizontal scroll by default

Thanks
Bob
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RE: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Cary Millsap
It's still in oracle\bin in the 10.1.0.0.0 software for MSWin.


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Hi!

Sqlplusw is gone, the windows gui version.

Tanel.

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> Hello:
>
> Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still
have
> SQL Plus in 10g.
> I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from
this
> list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?
>
> Thanks In Advance,
> Jay
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Re: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Peter Gram
Hi

No this is not true sqlplusw.exe on w2*k is stil there in the beta kit
and I can not find anything about desupport in the manuals :-)
Tanel Poder wrote:

Hi!

Sqlplusw is gone, the windows gui version.

Tanel.

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Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 7:19 PM

 

Hello:

Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still
   

have
 

SQL Plus in 10g.
I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from
   

this
 

list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?

Thanks In Advance,
Jay
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Re: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Arup Nanda
SQL*Plus windoz version is removed, not the ubiquitous command line tool.
How can they remove SQL*Plus, the proverbial cockroach tool of the Oracle
world?

Arup
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> Hello:
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> Was watching Larry Ellison's key note and he mentioned that they still
have
> SQL Plus in 10g.
> I heard rumor that it was removed.  Since it seems as though some from
this
> list have seen it does it still have SQL Plus or has it been removed?
>
> Thanks In Advance,
> Jay
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Re: SQL Plus

2003-09-22 Thread Tanel Poder
Hi!

Sqlplusw is gone, the windows gui version.

Tanel.

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Re: NEVER MIND - WAS - RE: SQL Plus Environment

2003-02-11 Thread Suzy Vordos

Set SQLPATH, then login.sql and all of your other .sql scripts can be in
whatever directory location(s) you prefer.

"Farnsworth, Dave" wrote:
> 
> I fixed it.  I decided if the DBS directory was not created by the Oracle install 
>than I will go and create the directory for Oracle.  I then dropped my login.sql into 
>the directory, fired up SQLPlus and my login.sql worked.  Maybe I should of just sent 
>a HELP instead.  ;o)
> 
> Dave
> 
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> I want to set up a glogin.sql and a login.sql.  I am reading the manual and I find 
>this.  Oh yea. I'm on 8.1.7 on NT.
> 
> When you install SQL*Plus, LOGIN.SQL is copied to the DBS subdirectory, and 
>GLOGIN.SQL is copied to the SQLPLUS\ADMIN subdirectory of your Oracle home directory.
> If you modify LOGIN.SQL or GLOGIN.SQL, make sure you do not add any ANSI escape 
>sequences.
> See "Setting Up Your SQL*Plus Environment" in Chapter 3 of the SQL*Plus User's Guide 
>and Reference <../../server.817/a82950/toc.htm>, which describes the LOGIN.SQL and 
>GLOGIN.SQL files.
> 
> I can find the glogin.sql on my client PC and have edited it to my liking.  But I 
>cannot find the login.sql and I do not have the DBS directory.  I see a DBS directory 
>on the server but not on the client.  Am I missing something or does login.sql not 
>exist on 8.1.7.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave
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RE: SQL Plus Environment

2003-02-11 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Hi Dave, 

Here's how mine is set up (SqlPlus client 8.1.7)

$oracle_home\bin\login.sql, fires when I log in
Calls a mylogin.sql file complete with path. 

login.sql Looks like this

@c:\oracle\ora81\sqlplus\admin\mylogin.sql
set linesize 2000
column name format a40
column column format a20

mylogin.sql looks like this

set pause off
set termout off
SET ARRAYSIZE 3
column dbsid new_value dbsid noprint
select global_name  dbsid from
global_name;
column dbusr new_value dbusr noprint
select user dbusr from dual;
set sqlprompt '(&dbsid-&dbusr)>'
set termout on
UNDEF DBSID
UNDEF DBUSR

set linesize 100
set pagesize 100


HTH, and have a great day.  Tell everyone on OT hello.

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I want to set up a glogin.sql and a login.sql.  I am reading the manual and I find 
this.  Oh yea. I'm on 8.1.7 on NT.

When you install SQL*Plus, LOGIN.SQL is copied to the DBS subdirectory, and GLOGIN.SQL 
is copied to the SQLPLUS\ADMIN subdirectory of your Oracle home directory. 
If you modify LOGIN.SQL or GLOGIN.SQL, make sure you do not add any ANSI escape 
sequences. 
See "Setting Up Your SQL*Plus Environment" in Chapter 3 of the SQL*Plus User's Guide 
and Reference <../../server.817/a82950/toc.htm>, which describes the LOGIN.SQL and 
GLOGIN.SQL files. 

I can find the glogin.sql on my client PC and have edited it to my liking.  But I 
cannot find the login.sql and I do not have the DBS directory.  I see a DBS directory 
on the server but not on the client.  Am I missing something or does login.sql not 
exist on 8.1.7.

Thanks,

Dave

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NEVER MIND - WAS - RE: SQL Plus Environment

2003-02-11 Thread Farnsworth, Dave
I fixed it.  I decided if the DBS directory was not created by the Oracle install than 
I will go and create the directory for Oracle.  I then dropped my login.sql into the 
directory, fired up SQLPlus and my login.sql worked.  Maybe I should of just sent a 
HELP instead.  ;o)

Dave

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I want to set up a glogin.sql and a login.sql.  I am reading the manual and I find 
this.  Oh yea. I'm on 8.1.7 on NT.

When you install SQL*Plus, LOGIN.SQL is copied to the DBS subdirectory, and GLOGIN.SQL 
is copied to the SQLPLUS\ADMIN subdirectory of your Oracle home directory. 
If you modify LOGIN.SQL or GLOGIN.SQL, make sure you do not add any ANSI escape 
sequences. 
See "Setting Up Your SQL*Plus Environment" in Chapter 3 of the SQL*Plus User's Guide 
and Reference <../../server.817/a82950/toc.htm>, which describes the LOGIN.SQL and 
GLOGIN.SQL files. 

I can find the glogin.sql on my client PC and have edited it to my liking.  But I 
cannot find the login.sql and I do not have the DBS directory.  I see a DBS directory 
on the server but not on the client.  Am I missing something or does login.sql not 
exist on 8.1.7.

Thanks,

Dave

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RE: SQL*Plus Worksheet Question

2003-02-03 Thread Kaing, Leng
Jay,

We're talking about the SQL*Plus Worksheet for Windows here, not good old plain 
SQL*Plus. Your solution only works for SQL*Plus, but not the Worksheet.

Cheers,

Leng.

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Hi leng,

The following works fine with SQL*Plus if you include it in 
Glogin(Login).sql

column user new_value A noprint 
column global_name new_value B noprint
select user from dual;
select global_name from global_name;
set sqlprompt &A@&B.

HTH ...

Regards
JAI





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> Eric,
> 
> Not sure what you're talking about but here's a stab in the dark...
> 
> set sqlprompt "mydb.myusername> "
> 
> This changes the output prompt, but not the prompt in the header of the 
window bar. If you can figure this one out, please let me know too.
> 
> Rgs,
> 
> Leng.
> 


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RE: SQL*Plus Worksheet Question

2003-02-03 Thread JayK

Hi leng,

The following works fine with SQL*Plus if you include it in Glogin(Login).sql

column user new_value A noprint  
column global_name new_value B noprint
select user from dual;
select global_name from global_name;
set sqlprompt &A@&B.

HTH ...

Regards
JAI







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> Eric,
> 
> Not sure what you're talking about but here's a stab in the dark...
> 
> set sqlprompt "mydb.myusername> "
> 
> This changes the output prompt, but not the prompt in the header of the window bar. If you can figure this one out, please let me know too.
> 
> Rgs,
> 
> Leng.
> 
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>  From: "Harrington, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:29:25 -0500
>  Subject: SQL*Plus Worksheet Question
> 
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> 
> Version 9.2
> 
> I am monitoring several databases and have several SQL*Plus Worksheet
> sessions open. I would like to display the connected user name and instance
> as the prompt associated w/ the appropriate session. Per Metalink
> Note:120664.1 I added the following lines to the login.sql:
> 
> set termout off
> spool set_prompt.sql
> select 'set sqlprompt '||instance||'>'
> from sys.v_$thread;
> spool off
> start set_prompt.sql
> set termout on
> 
> This does successfully change the prompt to the instance name for SQL*Plus
> but not SQL*Plus Worksheet. What am I missing? Is there another way to
> accomplish this?
> 
> Eric Harrington
> State of Maine
> Bureau of Motor Vehicles 
> 
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RE: SQL*Plus Worksheet Question

2003-02-02 Thread Kaing, Leng
> Eric,
> 
> Not sure what you're talking about but here's a stab in the dark...
> 
> set sqlprompt "mydb.myusername> "
> 
> This changes the output prompt, but not the prompt in the header of the window bar. 
>If you can figure this one out, please let me know too.
> 
> Rgs,
> 
> Leng.
> 
> -
>  From: "Harrington, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 10:29:25 -0500
>  Subject: SQL*Plus Worksheet Question
> 
> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand
> this format, some or all of this message may not be legible.
> 
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> Content-Type: text/plain
> 
> Version 9.2
> 
> I am monitoring several databases and have several SQL*Plus Worksheet
> sessions open. I would like to display the connected user name and instance
> as the prompt associated w/ the appropriate session. Per Metalink
> Note:120664.1 I added the following lines to the login.sql:
> 
> set termout off
> spool set_prompt.sql
> select 'set sqlprompt '||instance||'>'
> from sys.v_$thread;
> spool off
> start set_prompt.sql
> set termout on
> 
> This does successfully change the prompt to the instance name for SQL*Plus
> but not SQL*Plus Worksheet. What am I missing? Is there another way to
> accomplish this?
> 
> Eric Harrington
> State of Maine
> Bureau of Motor Vehicles 
> 
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Re: SQL*PLUS and CygWin

2002-12-19 Thread Warren Lindsey
Before you run sqlplus, set the ComSpec env variable, like so:

set ComSpec=c:\usr\local\wbin\sh.exe

Next time you host out it will run this instead of the default 
ComSpec='C:\WINNT\system32\cmd.exe'

HTH,
Warren Lindsey

Stefan Jahnke wrote:

Hi everybody

I'm using cywin on my Win2k box to get a reasonable shell. Now there's one
problem left: Everytime I issue a "host" command within SQL*PLUS, I get a
Windows console. I would like to get the bash prompt instead. Is there any

Any ideas ?

Regards,
Stefan




 



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RE: SQL*Plus truncating lines

2002-11-12 Thread Fink, Dan



Okay, 
I have independent verification, so I am NOT delusional...
 
I 
reconnected to the 9.0.1 database, reran the query and the lines were not 
truncated! 
 
I'm 
STUMPED!

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  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 3:09 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  SQL*Plus truncating lines
  I'm calling each 
  statement from SQL*Plus for Windows 9.2.0.1.0. When I connect to a 9.0.1 
  database and execute a query, the output to the screen is truncated at 100 
  characters. If the output is spooled to a file, all lines appear as expected. 
  When the same session is connected to an 8.1.7 database, the output is not 
  truncated. When the same statement is run on the box using the unix command 
  line version, it is not truncated. 
   
  linesize - 
  150
  command_string 
  (column of output) a145
  echo off pages 
  0
   
  Any clues as to 
  why the database connection matters? Is it actually something with SQL*Net? 
  Any other things to check?
   
  Dan 
  Fink


RE: SQL*Plus COPY error solved (sort of)

2002-10-29 Thread Paul Baumgartel
Hadn't thought of trying that; makes sense.  Thanks.

--- "Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> When you tried under NT, did you use sqlplus.exe or sqlplusw.exe?
> 
> If you used sqlplusw.exe, this sounds like Bug No. 1504702
> 
> The workaround is to use the copy command from the character version
> of sqlplus (sqlplus.exe) rather than the GUI version.
> 
> HTH,
> Bruce Reardon
> 



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RE: SQL*Plus COPY error solved (sort of)

2002-10-27 Thread Reardon, Bruce (CALBBAY)
When you tried under NT, did you use sqlplus.exe or sqlplusw.exe?

If you used sqlplusw.exe, this sounds like Bug No. 1504702

The workaround is to use the copy command from the character version of sqlplus 
(sqlplus.exe) rather than the GUI version.

HTH,
Bruce Reardon

-Original Message-
Sent: Saturday, 26 October 2002 10:49 AM

it's oraus.msg located in rdbms/mesg but that file does NOT exist on
Windows systems anymore

--- Stephen Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Some severe rustiness here on this topic; but the mists of time have
> me
> thinking that Oracle is looking for the file that contains the text
> for
> messages it wants to display, and in your case, it can't find the
> file.  I
> used to know what file this was and where it was located; but would
> have to
> look it up now.
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Friday, October 25, 2002 3:24 PM
> 
> This COPY script failure occurred when running in SQL*Plus on Windows
> NT.  In SQL*Plus on (Unix) database server, runs just fine, so
> immediate problem solved.  
> 
> Shouldn't it work from PC, though?
> 
> --- Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm trying to use (for the first time in 15 years of Oracle
> > experience!) SQL*Plus COPY, and am receiving the following
> > incomprehensible error:
> > 
> > SQL>  @odss/cmsr
> > 
> > Array fetch/bind size is 100. (arraysize is 100)
> > Will commit after every 10 array binds. (copycommit is 10)
> > Maximum long size is 2. (long is 2)
> > 
> > ERROR:
> > ORA--3393898: Message -3393898 not found;  product=RDBMS;
> > facility=ORA
> > 
> > Anyone seen this or anything like it?  My environment is set up
> > properly; i.e., errors returned by operations other than COPY
> display
> > the way they're supposed to.
> > 
> > TIA!
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Re: SQL*Plus COPY error

2002-10-26 Thread Tom Pall
I've not seen this particular error.  Over the years I've found SQL*Plus
COPY to be buggy.  I just did a search on Metalink for "sqlplus copy error".
Your problem is not addressed directly, but other problems point to bugs in
the GUI version of SQL*PLUS.  Oracle's advice is to use the command line,
non-GUI version of SQL*Plus for COPY.
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> I'm trying to use (for the first time in 15 years of Oracle
> experience!) SQL*Plus COPY, and am receiving the following
> incomprehensible error:
>
> SQL>  @odss/cmsr
>
> Array fetch/bind size is 100. (arraysize is 100)
> Will commit after every 10 array binds. (copycommit is 10)
> Maximum long size is 2. (long is 2)
>
> ERROR:
> ORA--3393898: Message -3393898 not found;  product=RDBMS; facility=ORA
>
> Anyone seen this or anything like it?  My environment is set up
> properly; i.e., errors returned by operations other than COPY display
> the way they're supposed to.
>
> TIA!
>
>
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RE: SQL*Plus COPY error solved (sort of)

2002-10-25 Thread Rachel Carmichael
it's oraus.msg located in rdbms/mesg but that file does NOT exist on
Windows systems anymore


--- Stephen Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Some severe rustiness here on this topic; but the mists of time have
> me
> thinking that Oracle is looking for the file that contains the text
> for
> messages it wants to display, and in your case, it can't find the
> file.  I
> used to know what file this was and where it was located; but would
> have to
> look it up now.
> 
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> 
> This COPY script failure occurred when running in SQL*Plus on Windows
> NT.  In SQL*Plus on (Unix) database server, runs just fine, so
> immediate problem solved.  
> 
> Shouldn't it work from PC, though?
> 
> 
> --- Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm trying to use (for the first time in 15 years of Oracle
> > experience!) SQL*Plus COPY, and am receiving the following
> > incomprehensible error:
> > 
> > SQL>  @odss/cmsr
> > 
> > Array fetch/bind size is 100. (arraysize is 100)
> > Will commit after every 10 array binds. (copycommit is 10)
> > Maximum long size is 2. (long is 2)
> > 
> > ERROR:
> > ORA--3393898: Message -3393898 not found;  product=RDBMS;
> > facility=ORA
> > 
> > Anyone seen this or anything like it?  My environment is set up
> > properly; i.e., errors returned by operations other than COPY
> display
> > the way they're supposed to.
> > 
> > TIA!
> > 
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RE: SQL*Plus COPY error solved (sort of)

2002-10-25 Thread Stephen Lee

Some severe rustiness here on this topic; but the mists of time have me
thinking that Oracle is looking for the file that contains the text for
messages it wants to display, and in your case, it can't find the file.  I
used to know what file this was and where it was located; but would have to
look it up now.

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This COPY script failure occurred when running in SQL*Plus on Windows
NT.  In SQL*Plus on (Unix) database server, runs just fine, so
immediate problem solved.  

Shouldn't it work from PC, though?


--- Paul Baumgartel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to use (for the first time in 15 years of Oracle
> experience!) SQL*Plus COPY, and am receiving the following
> incomprehensible error:
> 
> SQL>  @odss/cmsr
> 
> Array fetch/bind size is 100. (arraysize is 100)
> Will commit after every 10 array binds. (copycommit is 10)
> Maximum long size is 2. (long is 2)
> 
> ERROR:
> ORA--3393898: Message -3393898 not found;  product=RDBMS;
> facility=ORA
> 
> Anyone seen this or anything like it?  My environment is set up
> properly; i.e., errors returned by operations other than COPY display
> the way they're supposed to.
> 
> TIA!
> 
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RE: SQL*Plus COPY error

2002-10-25 Thread DENNIS WILLIAMS
Paul -
   Hopefully you will receive more helpful advice, but I have received
strange errors using the COPY command and the reply I received from Oracle
support was that it was being phased out and if I didn't like errors I
should write a small PL/SQL program to perform this task (give you a copy if
you want it). That was 5 years ago, so obviously it hasn't disappeared. I
would recommend modifying your COPY statement until you get away from the
error.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
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I'm trying to use (for the first time in 15 years of Oracle
experience!) SQL*Plus COPY, and am receiving the following
incomprehensible error:

SQL>  @odss/cmsr

Array fetch/bind size is 100. (arraysize is 100)
Will commit after every 10 array binds. (copycommit is 10)
Maximum long size is 2. (long is 2)

ERROR:
ORA--3393898: Message -3393898 not found;  product=RDBMS; facility=ORA

Anyone seen this or anything like it?  My environment is set up
properly; i.e., errors returned by operations other than COPY display
the way they're supposed to.

TIA!


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RE: SQL Plus Default Value for &1 Help

2002-10-18 Thread Jared . Still
The problem comes down to this:

If there is a '&' in the script, and there is no value already
assigned to it,  sqlplus is going to stop processing, and
wait for user input. 

I've never found a way around this.

It would be nice if there were some facility such as all
unix shells have to test for the existence and number
of command line variables.

If this is something you must have, you might want to consider
using Perl to do this, as it's fairly easy there.

Or use something like expect as a frontend to sqlplus, but I think
that's more work than just doing the job in Perl.

Jared






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Subject:RE: SQL Plus Default Value for &1 Help


Thanks Jared, I have been looking at Steve Adams accept.sql script and
seeing if I can tweak that in someway.  But I think you are right, this is 
a
difficult task indeed. 


---
--
-- Script:  accept.sql
-- Purpose: to prompt for a script parameter, but allow a default 
value
--
-- Copyright:   (c) Ixora Pty Ltd
-- Author:  Steve Adams
--
-- Synopsis:@accept name prompt default
--

---

accept _value_entered prompt "&2 [&3] "
column _value_returned new_value &1 noprint
set termout off
select nvl('&_value_entered', '&3') "_value_returned" from dual;
set termout on
undefine 1 2 3 _value_entered
column _value_returned clear


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Ethan,

I think you're stuck here.

There isn't any memory structure in sqlplus that I'm aware of
that will allow you to check for the existence of variables 
passed on the command line, without actually checking the
variable itself.

Below is the method I use for passing command line
variables to sqlplus, and prompting the user if they
don't exist.


column ctest noprint new_value utest
prompt Enter the value:
set feed off echo off term off
select '&1' ctest from dual;
set feed on term on

select '&utest' from dual;


I don't see any way to directly supply a default value in sqlplus, though 
it
would really be cool if someone else has a way to do so in sqlplus.

This would likely require something like expect, or Perls Telnet
module to catch user input, and timeout if not supplied in a timely 
manner.

Jared






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Anyone got an example for the following...

I have a SQL Script that expects &1 passed into it, however, if &1 is not
supplied I would like to use a default value and not stop to prompt the
user.  I am playing around with new_value and select nvl('&1','foo') from
dual...etc...and nothing seems to be working.

Thanks,
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-09-03 Thread Dwayne Cox

Concerning gqlplus

I spoke to the author about this issue and he is supposed to be addressing
it.  I still find it useful and hope he fixes this problem soon.

-D-


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> 
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> Jared
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-09-02 Thread Karniotis, Stephen

Have not heard from Oracle as of yet regarding removing the SQL*Plus
interface.  To my knowledge, there are extensive enhancements being made to
SQL*Plus.

Thank You

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They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use
that (and OEM)
for startup and shutdown. The SQL*Plus text and windows clinet I hear will
be gone.

RF

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oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
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> and please don't say OEM...
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jonathan Gennick

On Fri, 30 Aug 2002 08:23:27 -0800, you wrote:

>Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??

The story I heard is that only the Windows version, the one that wraps
a GUI around the command-line, goes away. The DOS version stays (or so
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

I wonder why there is no Oradim under Unix/Linux?

ltiu

On Friday 30 August 2002 19:23, Rachel Carmichael wrote:
> does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it
>
> And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of
> svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7 I believe.
>
> --- ltiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???
> >
> > They got rid of SVRMGR.
> >
> > ltiu
> >
> > On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
> > > How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes
> >
> > away?
> >
> > > and please don't say OEM...
> > >
> > > --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RF
> > > >
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Ji, Richard

No it doesn't.  oradim is used to create/start/stop oracle services.
There is no such thing as NT services on Unix.

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does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it

And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of
svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7 I believe.


--- ltiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???
> 
> They got rid of SVRMGR.
> 
> ltiu 
> 
> On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
> > How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes
> away?
> > and please don't say OEM...
> >
> > --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
> > >
> > >
> > > RF
> > >
> > > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> > > Oracle Database Architect
> > > CSX Midtier Database Administration
> > > Author
> > > Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I LOVE that idea

I miss the monitor function :)


--- "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We only need to start it. It usually stops itself without human
> control.
> That is why we have ora-600 and ora-7445 features implemented in PMON
> 
> and SMON. As for starting and stopping,  let me  be innovative:
> What do you say to call the start/stop program "IOR" and have 
> database startup performed by "ior w" and database creation by "ior
> i"
> ("i" liki "init"). That would be a new and improved thing, wouldn't
> it?
> May be, calling the program "sqldba" would be even better.
> Integrating 
> an ncurses version of top sessions monitor and rollback segment
> monitor
> would also be an outrageous improvement, don't you think so?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 2:09 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Re: SQL*Plus in 10i
> > 
> > 
> > How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes
> away?
> > and please don't say OEM...
> > 
> > 
> > --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
> > > 
> > > 
> > > RF
> > > 
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

I can't code scripts to be run by the operations staff via OEM.  I
don't want to give that much access to non-DBA staff.

I told Ken Jacobs this years ago when he said at an NYOUG meeting that
"soon your database will be controlled from the web"


--- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> And as for OEM, I've heard from several sources that Oracle is going
> to
> position that product more and more to be "THE" database management
> interface. It's going to start feeling like we are working on a 
> SQL Server database before you know it.
> 
> RF
> 
> Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
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> Author
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> 
> 
> -Original Message-
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> How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes
> away?
> and please don't say OEM...
> 
> 
> --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
> > 
> > 
> > RF
> > 
> > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> > Oracle Database Architect
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> > Author
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

does oradim work in Unix boxes? I've never used it

And it took a LOT of releases and warnings before they got rid of
svrmgr.. they started saying it was going away in version 7 I believe.


--- ltiu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> They got rid of SVRMGR.
> 
> ltiu 
> 
> On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
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> away?
> > and please don't say OEM...
> >
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> > > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Orr, Steve

That's not really a show stopper as far as I'm concerned. 

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Just tried it.

Took 5 minutes to break it with this:

  set sqlprompt  '&&umachine - &who_var@&instance_var SQL> '

Jared







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> BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good?


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Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful 
and

most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

JP
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>
>
> RF
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Brian McGraw

And how will they support automated jobs (i.e., cron) that use sqlplus??


I've already had to rewrite scripts from svrmgrl to sqlplus.  I don't
want to go through that again.

I'm hoping, Robert, that you're just pulling everyone's leg  :)

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They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can
use
that (and OEM)
for startup and shutdown. The SQL*Plus text and windows clinet I hear
will
be gone.

RF

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oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
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> and please don't say OEM...
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> >
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert

>> McNealy, Ellison and Gates

Sounds like one of those injury law firms that advertises on late night
TV...

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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jared . Still

Just tried it.

Took 5 minutes to break it with this:

  set sqlprompt  '&&umachine - &who_var@&instance_var SQL> '

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Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good?


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Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful 
and

most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

JP
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jared . Still

Yeah, let's break the backbone of many dba's toolbox.

This must be one of the stupider things they've done lately.

Reminds of a time when I repaired computers, and the mfgr 
wanted to remove test points from boards to save $0.25.

I would guess we could make use of IOUG to take up this issue.

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They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use
that (and OEM)
for startup and shutdown. The SQL*Plus text and windows clinet I hear will
be gone.

RF

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oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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> and please don't say OEM...
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> --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >
> >
> > RF
> >
> > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Philip Douglass

I've been looking for something like this too -- unfortunately it doesn't
work on my platform (UnixWare 7) out of the box, and I haven't had time to
figure out why not.

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> BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
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Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful
and

most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

JP
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> RF
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert

They are going to have iSQL*Plus (or however it's spelled) and you can use
that (and OEM)
for startup and shutdown. The SQL*Plus text and windows clinet I hear will
be gone.

RF

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oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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> and please don't say OEM...
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> >
> >
> > RF
> >
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Freeman, Robert

And as for OEM, I've heard from several sources that Oracle is going to
position that product more and more to be "THE" database management
interface. It's going to start feeling like we are working on a 
SQL Server database before you know it.

RF

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How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...


--- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> 
> RF
> 
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen

Having McNealy, Ellison and Gates working for the same company?
It would be somewhat like Heller's "Milo Enterprises"

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> 
> Rumor ...
> 
> They might as well buy SUN along the way (and get rid of Java 
> for good). 
> SUN's market cap is only $13B. MS got $300B.
> 
> On Friday 30 August 2002 12:44, Gogala, Mladen wrote:
> > Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy Oracle 
> Corp., with
> > Larry Ellison taking the place of Steve Ballmer.
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> > oradim is only a windows thingy.  Those of us on real OS's 
> use svrmgrl or
> > sqlplus depending on version.  Are you saying that they are 
> going to port
> > oradim to *NIX??
> >
> > Rodd
> >
> > On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:
> >
> > oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???
> >
> >
> >
> > They got rid of SVRMGR.
> >
> >
> >
> > ltiu
> >
> > On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
> > > How do they expect you to start and stop the database if 
> it goes away?
> > >
> > > and please don't say OEM...
> > >
> > > --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > RF
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
> > > >
> > > > Oracle Database Architect
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> > > > Author
> > > >
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Orr, Steve

> BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
Whoa, I've been looking for something like this. Is it any good?


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Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and

most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

JP
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Rumor ...

They might as well buy SUN along the way (and get rid of Java for good). 
SUN's market cap is only $13B. MS got $300B.

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> oradim is only a windows thingy.  Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or
> sqlplus depending on version.  Are you saying that they are going to port
> oradim to *NIX??
>
> Rodd
>
> On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:
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> oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???
>
>
>
> They got rid of SVRMGR.
>
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> ltiu
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> On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Why not? It's easy to use. It will increase Oracle's market share to the dumb 
and dumber.

ltiu

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> oradim is only a windows thingy.  Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl
> or sqlplus depending on version.  Are you saying that they are going to
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>
> Rodd
>
> On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:
>
> oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???
>
> They got rid of SVRMGR.
>
> ltiu
>
> On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
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> > --- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Joe Testa

thats the Stupid WINDOZE way.

joe


ltiu wrote:

>oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???
>
>They got rid of SVRMGR.
>
>ltiu 
>
>On Friday 30 August 2002 11:08, you wrote:
>
>>How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
>>and please don't say OEM...
>>
>>--- "Freeman, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??
>>>
>>>
>>>RF
>>>
>>>Robert G. Freeman - Oracle OCP
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>>>Author
>>>Oracle9i RMAN Backup and Recovery (Oracle Press - Oct 2002)
>>>Oracle9i New Features (Oracle Press)
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen



Connected to that, there is a rumor tha M$ will buy 
Oracle Corp., with 
Larry 
Ellison taking the place of Steve Ballmer.

  -Original Message-From: Rodd Holman 
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  SQL*Plus in 10ioradim is only a windows thingy.  
  Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or sqlplus depending on version.  
  Are you saying that they are going to port oradim to *NIX?? Rodd 
  On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote: 
  oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rodd Holman




oradim is only a windows thingy.  Those of us on real OS's use svrmgrl or sqlplus depending on version.  Are you saying that they are going to port oradim to *NIX??



Rodd



On Fri, 2002-08-30 at 13:33, ltiu wrote:

oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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> >
> >
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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Farnsworth, Dave

What would be the replacement??

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Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


RF

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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Gogala, Mladen

We only need to start it. It usually stops itself without human control.
That is why we have ora-600 and ora-7445 features implemented in PMON 
and SMON. As for starting and stopping,  let me  be innovative:
What do you say to call the start/stop program "IOR" and have 
database startup performed by "ior w" and database creation by "ior i"
("i" liki "init"). That would be a new and improved thing, wouldn't it?
May be, calling the program "sqldba" would be even better. Integrating 
an ncurses version of top sessions monitor and rollback segment monitor
would also be an outrageous improvement, don't you think so?

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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

oradim -startup -sid  -pfile  ???

They got rid of SVRMGR.

ltiu 

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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Jan Pruner

Yes, Oracle will sell it as standalone product because it is most useful and 
most used client software on Oracle. The licence model is 'per session'.

:-)))
BTW: Anybody's using  gqlplus?
http://gqlplus.sourceforge.net/

JP
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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread ltiu

Nooo!!!

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Re: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Rachel Carmichael

How do they expect you to start and stop the database if it goes away?
and please don't say OEM...


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RE: SQL*Plus in 10i

2002-08-30 Thread Ji, Richard

Are you kidding?  So what do we use to startup and shutdown db?  OEM?
I don't think there is any truth to this one.

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Anyone else hear that SQL*Plus is going away in 10i??


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Re: SQL*Plus blowing up on query on V$AQ...

2002-08-01 Thread Tim Gorman



I had never heard of that bug, but I 
checked it out on MetaLink and took it for a spin myself:

  SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Thu 
  Aug 1 21:26:16 2002
   
  (c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation.  
  All rights reserved.
  Connected 
  to:Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - ProductionWith the 
  Partitioning optionJServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production
   
  SQL> select * from 
  v$aq;ERROR:ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 
  1ORA-01001: invalid cursorORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL 
  level 1ORA-01001: invalid cursor
   
  no rows selected
Confirms what you're saying, along with 
what is documented in bugs #2092731 and #2131687.  But, then what about 
this here?

  Oracle Server Manager Release 3.1.7.0.0 - Production
   
  Copyright (c) 1997, 1999, Oracle Corporation.  All Rights 
  Reserved.
   
  Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.0.0 - 
  ProductionWith the Partitioning optionJServer Release 8.1.7.0.0 - 
  Production
   
  SVRMGR> connect internalConnected.SVRMGR> select * 
  from v$aq;QID    
  WAITING    READY  
  EXPIRED    TOTAL_WAIT AVERAGE_WA-- -- 
  -- -- -- --  
  2569  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  2571  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  2579  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  2581  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  0
  (about 100 rows removed to shorten display)
   
  25388  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0 
  25389  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0 
  25390  
  0  
  0  
  0  
  0  0ORA-00604: error 
  occurred at recursive SQL level 1ORA-01001: invalid cursorORA-00604: 
  error occurred at recursive SQL level 1ORA-01001: invalid cursor
   
  SVRMGR>
So, it is happening in Server 
Mangler as well.  Let's just say that Server Manager gets a little further 
along than SQL*Plus, for what that's worth.  Still, it would seem that it's 
not a problem particular to SQL*Plus, but rather a problem either in OCI or 
the RDBMS.  Sure, it could be a problem in both SQL*Plus and SVRMGR only, 
but since these products were developed separately, I'm guessing not.  
If I had a "C" compiler, I'd compile up the OCI demo program "cdemo2" and see if 
it blows up also.  My money is that it is AQ itself, which uses OO features 
within the RDBMS.  I did a SQL Trace level 12 on 
the statement and there is an awful lot of recursive object-oriented stuff going 
on behind the scenes when you do a simple query of V$AQ...
 
...in summary, I'm not surprised that it blows up 
-- I'm more surprised that it ever works at all...  
:-)
 
Thanks April!  That was 
cool...
 
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> > The functionality for Server Manager 
command-line was migrated in it's> entirety into SQL*Plus (near as I can 
tell, including ORADEBUG), so Oracle> eliminated svrmgrl not so much as a 
way of deprecating command-line> utilities in general, but rather to 
consolidate redundant products...> > > Except 
you still can't select from V$AQ in sqlplus even in 9i... just a> teeny 
little thing... but (per a dozen hits on metalink) it only works in> 
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to see if> MPM was running in the background task manager of SDSF.  
Add to it that I> wrote (helped Oracle) a complete TSO Dialog Manager 
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Go Command> Line!!!> > Thank You> > Stephen 
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abstraction on the presentation.  Command-line tools> will never "go 
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Re: SQL*Plus/UTL_FILE vs. 3'rd Party Data Extraction

2002-07-02 Thread Jared . Still

Perl is very fast, very flexible, and quite inexpensive. :)

See my post earlier today that includes the TOC from
"Perl for Oracle DBA's"

Jared





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I have some people who are asking about 3'rd party data extraction tools 
to
pull data from Oracle into text files for loading a data warehouse.  I am
not sure what the size of the project is but I think it is pretty big. The
DW is Terradata.  Anyway, they are stating Oracle tools are too slow. They
do not define slow so it is hard to argue with them.  My opinion is that 
it
is very dependent on hardware (CPU/Disk) in most cases.

What are your opinions on the matter, do you need 3'rd party?  What tools
are you using (I am aware of Informatica and such but I think they are
looking for something a little cheaper)?

Thanks,
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RE: sql plus help - display more text on a line

2002-05-29 Thread Richard Huntley
Title: RE: sql plus help - display more text on a line





Bill,
You're on the right track, both should work, if you want to see the text on screen, change
the SQL*Plus environment, i.e. Options->Environment and under Screen Buffer increase the
Buffer_Width, to some large number (larger than the text you're trying to see).  If you don't care
about seeing the text on screen, set linesize to an appropriately large number then spool a file.
When you view the spool file, it should look fine.


HTH,
Rich



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how can I display more text on a line?  I've adjusted linesize, but the last
several columns are chopped off . . . there's a screen buffer setting in the
SQLPlus environment, but it doesn't seem to do anything that I can see.


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Re: SQL*Plus Connection

2002-05-23 Thread Sergey V Dolgov

Hello ,

In windows you can choose where to connect without connect string
by setting registry value
HKLM\Software\ORACLE\local = 'default_connect_string'

Friday, May 24, 2002, 1:13:20 PM, you wrote:

SB> How a connection gets established when we don't
SB> specify the connect string 
SB> (i.e. sqlplus usr/pass ...typically when working in a
SB> Server) ?
SB> This type of connection is established as LOCAL=YES
SB> and uses BEQ protocol
SB> as opposed to TCP in case of client-server mode by
SB> SQL*net V2/net8.

SB> Question:1

SB> When a request is made for this type of connction (
SB> without connect string )
SB> how it gets resolved and ultimately connects to the
SB> database ?

SB> Question:2

SB> Is there any kind of *.ora file ( like sqlnet.ora
SB> ,protocol.ora etc )
SB> which is used/accessed to establish this direct
SB> connection ?

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RE: SQL*Plus and DBMS_OUTPUT won't display extended charset?

2002-05-21 Thread Jesse, Rich

Yup, as I mentioned in the "export..." statement, it is.

Looks like an iTAR... 

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> 
> I'm not 100% sure, but don't you also have to set those NLS 
> parms on your
> client???
> 
> Chris
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> 
> Oracle 8.1.7.2.0
> HP/UX 11.0
> DB was converted from USASCII7 to UTF8
> NLS_CHARACTERSET and NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET are both "UTF8" in DB.
> "export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.UTF8" in client environment 
> (Korn shell).
> 
> In SVRMGRL on the DB server, when I SELECT CHR(200) FROM 
> DUAL, I get the
> character displayed properly (Latin capital "E" with grave 
> accent).  In
> SQL*Plus, however, the character does not appear.  Also, when I use
> DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE to dump CHR(200) to the screen in either 
> Server Manager
> or SQL*Plus, nothing shows up.
> 
> Anyone know what's going on here?
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RE: SQL*Plus and DBMS_OUTPUT won't display extended charset?

2002-05-16 Thread Grabowy, Chris

I'm not 100% sure, but don't you also have to set those NLS parms on your
client???

Chris

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Oracle 8.1.7.2.0
HP/UX 11.0
DB was converted from USASCII7 to UTF8
NLS_CHARACTERSET and NLS_NCHAR_CHARACTERSET are both "UTF8" in DB.
"export NLS_LANG=AMERICAN_AMERICA.UTF8" in client environment (Korn shell).

In SVRMGRL on the DB server, when I SELECT CHR(200) FROM DUAL, I get the
character displayed properly (Latin capital "E" with grave accent).  In
SQL*Plus, however, the character does not appear.  Also, when I use
DBMS_OUTPUT.PUT_LINE to dump CHR(200) to the screen in either Server Manager
or SQL*Plus, nothing shows up.

Anyone know what's going on here?

TIA!

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RE: Sql/PLUS Question

2001-07-26 Thread Cale, Rick T (Richard)

You can do SELECT * FROM nls_database_parameters;

Rick

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Hi All,

Just a short How to...
Is there some way to find out what your session parameters are.
I am aware of the 
> show parameters;
But an example is NLS_DATE_FORMAT, if you change it from the system default
using alter session.
And run > show parameter 
It still remains with no value in the VALUE column of the output.
Hope I made myself clear.

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RE: Sql/PLUS Question

2001-07-26 Thread Kevin Lange

In sqlplus you can 

select * from v$parameter;


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Hi All,

Just a short How to...
Is there some way to find out what your session parameters are.
I am aware of the 
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But an example is NLS_DATE_FORMAT, if you change it from the system default
using alter session.
And run > show parameter 
It still remains with no value in the VALUE column of the output.
Hope I made myself clear.

Thanks In Advance
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