RE: Storage Frust....

2003-09-26 Thread Johnston, Tim
S...  People are listening...  Someone will hear our plans...

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Tim, what are we going to do tomorrow night? 
Not the same thing as every night, try to take over the world?

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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



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> Subject: RE: Storage Frust
> 
> 
> Thank you...  The honor is gratefully accepted...  Soon the 
> hordes of BAARF party member shall rule the world!  Um...  
> Ok, maybe not rule the world... But at least we'll be loud!
> 
> Tim
> BAARF Party Member #44
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Well, Sir Tim - congratulations with your BAARF party 
> membership # 44. 
> The BAARF.zip file will be shipped in a second.
> 
> Mogens
> 
> Johnston, Tim wrote:
> 
> >Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:30 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Sir Visser,
> >
> >It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as 
> party member 
> >#
> >43 if you like.
> >
> >Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) 
> >which
> >contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
> >musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on 
> Friday night.
> >
> >But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!
> >
> >And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the
> >BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
> >Forum. They'll have to wait.
> >
> >Mogens
> >
> >Piet de Visser wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Group,
> >>
> >>After another run-in with Storage,
> >>need to Vent Some frustrations:
> >>
> >>BAARF 
> >>
> >>Thank you.
> >>
> >>While I'm at it,
> >>let me add some other RAD ideas:
> >>
> >>Frustrated by vendors and manuals,
> >>we were about to turn BAARF into: 
> >>battle against any Raw Filesystems 
> >>(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).
> >>
> >>But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought
> >>
> >>CCCP:
> >>for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
> >>whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
> >>Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
> >>and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
> >>on Clustered file systems.
> >>
> >>And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at:
> >>
> >>USSR:
> >>for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
> >>to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
> >>partly inspired by OpenSSI.org
> >>
> >>More ideas anyone ?
> >>
> >>Don't start me on:
> >>the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
> >>followed by 
> >>the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
> >>or just plain: 
> >>FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 
> >>
> >>No harm, no offence intended anywhere
> >>(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
> >>
> >>Getting Late...
> >>Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
> >>and all these ideas will be legacy.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>PdV
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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RE: Storage Frust....

2003-09-26 Thread Mladen Gogala
Tim, what are we going to do tomorrow night? 
Not the same thing as every night, try to take over the world?

--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA 



> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Johnston, Tim
> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 11:35 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Storage Frust
> 
> 
> Thank you...  The honor is gratefully accepted...  Soon the 
> hordes of BAARF party member shall rule the world!  Um...  
> Ok, maybe not rule the world... But at least we'll be loud!
> 
> Tim
> BAARF Party Member #44
> 
> -Original Message-
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:40 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Well, Sir Tim - congratulations with your BAARF party 
> membership # 44. 
> The BAARF.zip file will be shipped in a second.
> 
> Mogens
> 
> Johnston, Tim wrote:
> 
> >Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!
> >
> >Tim
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:30 PM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Sir Visser,
> >
> >It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as 
> party member 
> >#
> >43 if you like.
> >
> >Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) 
> >which
> >contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
> >musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on 
> Friday night.
> >
> >But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!
> >
> >And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the
> >BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
> >Forum. They'll have to wait.
> >
> >Mogens
> >
> >Piet de Visser wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> >>Group,
> >>
> >>After another run-in with Storage,
> >>need to Vent Some frustrations:
> >>
> >>BAARF 
> >>
> >>Thank you.
> >>
> >>While I'm at it,
> >>let me add some other RAD ideas:
> >>
> >>Frustrated by vendors and manuals,
> >>we were about to turn BAARF into: 
> >>battle against any Raw Filesystems 
> >>(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).
> >>
> >>But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought
> >>
> >>CCCP:
> >>for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
> >>whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
> >>Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
> >>and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
> >>on Clustered file systems.
> >>
> >>And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at:
> >>
> >>USSR:
> >>for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
> >>to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
> >>partly inspired by OpenSSI.org
> >>
> >>More ideas anyone ?
> >>
> >>Don't start me on:
> >>the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
> >>followed by 
> >>the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
> >>or just plain: 
> >>FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 
> >>
> >>No harm, no offence intended anywhere
> >>(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
> >>
> >>Getting Late...
> >>Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
> >>and all these ideas will be legacy.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>PdV
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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RE: Storage Frust....

2003-09-26 Thread Johnston, Tim
Thank you...  The honor is gratefully accepted...  Soon the hordes of BAARF
party member shall rule the world!  Um...  Ok, maybe not rule the world...
But at least we'll be loud!

Tim
BAARF Party Member #44

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Well, Sir Tim - congratulations with your BAARF party membership # 44. 
The BAARF.zip file will be shipped in a second.

Mogens

Johnston, Tim wrote:

>Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!
>
>Tim
>
>-Original Message-
>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:30 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>Sir Visser,
>
>It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party member # 
>43 if you like.
>
>Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) which 
>contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
>musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on Friday night.
>
>But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!
>
>And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
>BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
>Forum. They'll have to wait.
>
>Mogens
>
>Piet de Visser wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Group, 
>>
>>After another run-in with Storage, 
>>need to Vent Some frustrations:
>>
>>BAARF 
>>
>>Thank you.
>>
>>While I'm at it, 
>>let me add some other RAD ideas:
>>
>>Frustrated by vendors and manuals, 
>>we were about to turn BAARF into: 
>>battle against any Raw Filesystems 
>>(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).
>>
>>But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought 
>>
>>CCCP: 
>>for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
>>whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
>>Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
>>and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
>>on Clustered file systems.
>>
>>And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at: 
>>
>>USSR: 
>>for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
>>to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
>>partly inspired by OpenSSI.org
>>
>>More ideas anyone ? 
>>
>>Don't start me on: 
>>the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
>>followed by 
>>the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
>>or just plain: 
>>FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 
>>
>>No harm, no offence intended anywhere
>>(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
>>
>>Getting Late... 
>>Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
>>and all these ideas will be legacy.
>>
>>Regards, 
>>
>>PdV
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>
>  
>

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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-26 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Sir Visser -

The honour is mine. We shall BAARF around the world in the years to come.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

Sir Norgaard, Group,

Accepted, I think #43 is rather cool, 
as in: "life, the universe and everyting"++ 

I'll have to postpone review/critque/shredding of any 
text, statement or documents to the weekend.
Too Busy Fighting non-baarf-ers...

Will have meeting with commercial-of-the-shellf (COTS)
hw vendor again tomorrow.
(for the dutch-speaking: Cots, Baarf  hint)
Regards, 

PdV



 

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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-25 Thread Piet de Visser
Sir Norgaard, Group,

Accepted, I think #43 is rather cool, 
as in: "life, the universe and everyting"++ 

I'll have to postpone review/critque/shredding of any 
text, statement or documents to the weekend.
Too Busy Fighting non-baarf-ers...

Will have meeting with commercial-of-the-shellf (COTS)
hw vendor again tomorrow.
(for the dutch-speaking: Cots, Baarf  hint)

Regards, 

PdV



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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread ManojKr Jha

Hi,

Any body have any idea about how to control the size of "library cache" and
"sql area" in shared_pool?

With Regards,
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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Can't deny you such a good and simple wish. Welcome as BAARF Party 
member # 69.

Mogens

Joe Testa wrote:

I figure I have to wait for a while to get BAARF party membership #69, 
bwahahahahahha

i'll go back to programming php against mysql :)

joe

Mogens Nørgaard wrote:

Well, Sir Tim - congratulations with your BAARF party membership # 
44. The BAARF.zip file will be shipped in a second.

Mogens

Johnston, Tim wrote:

Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!

Tim

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party 
member # 43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) 
which contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the 
BAARF musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on 
Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

 

Group,
After another run-in with Storage, need to Vent Some frustrations:
BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it, let me add some other RAD ideas:

Frustrated by vendors and manuals, we were about to turn BAARF 
into: battle against any Raw Filesystems (Yes, Yes, I know, a 
raw-dev is not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought
CCCP: for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, whose 
mission should be to elimiate all usage of Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, 
ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle 
software on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at:
USSR: for Usage of Single System Rollout: to proclaim the use of 
sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ?
Don't start me on: the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers or just 
plain: FAD : Funny Acronym Department ?
No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)

Getting Late... Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, and all these ideas 
will be legacy.

Regards,
PdV


  


 



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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Joe Testa
I figure I have to wait for a while to get BAARF party membership #69, 
bwahahahahahha

i'll go back to programming php against mysql :)

joe

Mogens Nørgaard wrote:

Well, Sir Tim - congratulations with your BAARF party membership # 44. 
The BAARF.zip file will be shipped in a second.

Mogens

Johnston, Tim wrote:

Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!

Tim

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party 
member # 43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) 
which contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the 
BAARF musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on 
Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

 

Group,
After another run-in with Storage, need to Vent Some frustrations:
BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it, let me add some other RAD ideas:

Frustrated by vendors and manuals, we were about to turn BAARF into: 
battle against any Raw Filesystems (Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is 
not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought
CCCP: for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, whose 
mission should be to elimiate all usage of Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, 
ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle 
software on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at:
USSR: for Usage of Single System Rollout: to proclaim the use of 
sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ?
Don't start me on: the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers or just 
plain: FAD : Funny Acronym Department ?
No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)

Getting Late... Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, and all these ideas 
will be legacy.

Regards,
PdV


  


 


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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Well, Sir Tim - congratulations with your BAARF party membership # 44. 
The BAARF.zip file will be shipped in a second.

Mogens

Johnston, Tim wrote:

Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!

Tim

-Original Message-
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:30 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party member # 
43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) which 
contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

 

Group, 

After another run-in with Storage, 
need to Vent Some frustrations:

BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it, 
let me add some other RAD ideas:

Frustrated by vendors and manuals, 
we were about to turn BAARF into: 
battle against any Raw Filesystems 
(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought 

CCCP: 
for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at: 

USSR: 
for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ? 

Don't start me on: 
the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by 
the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
or just plain: 
FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 

No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
Getting Late... 
Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
and all these ideas will be legacy.

Regards, 

PdV



   

 

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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Oh man, that would be cool. He can choose any membership number above 
44...for instance 10046 :-).

PS Would you like to be a member yourself?

Mogens

MacGregor, Ian A. wrote:

Garth Gibson, one of the original inventors of RAID 
(http://www.panasas.com/bio_gibson.html), and currently CTO of Panasas Inc, will be here [at SLAC] tomorrow to talk about his research into Object file systems.  The talk will be Thursday (tomorrow) at 10:30 in the SCS conference room. 

I wonder if he's heard of BAARF, and what a coup if he would join.  

Ian MacGregor
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Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party member # 
43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) which 
contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

 

Group,

After another run-in with Storage,
need to Vent Some frustrations:
BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it,
let me add some other RAD ideas:
Frustrated by vendors and manuals,
we were about to turn BAARF into: 
battle against any Raw Filesystems 
(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought

CCCP:
for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at:

USSR:
for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ?

Don't start me on:
the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by 
the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
or just plain: 
FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 

No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
Getting Late...
Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
and all these ideas will be legacy.

Regards,

PdV



   

 

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RE: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Garth Gibson, one of the original inventors of RAID 
(http://www.panasas.com/bio_gibson.html), and currently CTO of Panasas Inc, will be 
here [at SLAC] tomorrow to talk about his research into Object file systems.  The talk 
will be Thursday (tomorrow) at 10:30 in the SCS conference room. 

I wonder if he's heard of BAARF, and what a coup if he would join.  

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party member # 
43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) which 
contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

>Group,
>
>After another run-in with Storage,
>need to Vent Some frustrations:
>
>BAARF 
>
>Thank you.
>
>While I'm at it,
>let me add some other RAD ideas:
>
>Frustrated by vendors and manuals,
>we were about to turn BAARF into: 
>battle against any Raw Filesystems 
>(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).
>
>But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought
>
>CCCP:
>for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
>whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
>Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
>and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
>on Clustered file systems.
>
>And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at:
>
>USSR:
>for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
>to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
>partly inspired by OpenSSI.org
>
>More ideas anyone ?
>
>Don't start me on:
>the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
>followed by 
>the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
>or just plain: 
>FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 
>
>No harm, no offence intended anywhere
>(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
>
>Getting Late...
>Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
>and all these ideas will be legacy.
>
>Regards,
>
>PdV
>
>  
>

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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Jared . Still

I'm curious about this one:

CCCP: 
for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
on Clustered file systems.

Our cluster is setup with Oracle/SAP software on each node. It shortens the
downtime for upgrades on a failover cluster.

Jared









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Group, 

After another run-in with Storage, 
need to Vent Some frustrations:

BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it, 
let me add some other RAD ideas:

Frustrated by vendors and manuals, 
we were about to turn BAARF into: 
battle against any Raw Filesystems 
(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought 

CCCP: 
for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at: 

USSR: 
for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ? 

Don't start me on: 
the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by 
the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
or just plain: 
FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 

No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)

Getting Late... 
Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
and all these ideas will be legacy.

Regards, 

PdV

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RE: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Johnston, Tim
Hey...  I'm jealous!!!  BAARF! BAARF! BAARF!

Tim

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Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party member # 
43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) which 
contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

>Group, 
>
>After another run-in with Storage, 
>need to Vent Some frustrations:
>
>BAARF 
>
>Thank you.
>
>While I'm at it, 
>let me add some other RAD ideas:
>
>Frustrated by vendors and manuals, 
>we were about to turn BAARF into: 
>battle against any Raw Filesystems 
>(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).
>
>But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought 
>
>CCCP: 
>for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
>whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
>Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
>and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
>on Clustered file systems.
>
>And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at: 
>
>USSR: 
>for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
>to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
>partly inspired by OpenSSI.org
>
>More ideas anyone ? 
>
>Don't start me on: 
>the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
>followed by 
>the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
>or just plain: 
>FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 
>
>No harm, no offence intended anywhere
>(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
>
>Getting Late... 
>Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
>and all these ideas will be legacy.
>
>Regards, 
>
>PdV
>
>  
>

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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Mogens Nørgaard
Sir Visser,

It would be my honour to enroll you in the BAARF party as party member # 
43 if you like.

Also, if you enroll, I'll send you the whole BAARF.zip file (33 K) which 
contains the story, the dialogues, and the song texts of the BAARF 
musical which we'll do at the Database Forum Gala Dinner on Friday night.

But only if you promise me to give me harsh critique in return!

And that goes for all you other members (or possible members) of the 
BAARF Party, too. Except, of course, the ones going to the Database 
Forum. They'll have to wait.

Mogens

Piet de Visser wrote:

Group, 

After another run-in with Storage, 
need to Vent Some frustrations:

BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it, 
let me add some other RAD ideas:

Frustrated by vendors and manuals, 
we were about to turn BAARF into: 
battle against any Raw Filesystems 
(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought 

CCCP: 
for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at: 

USSR: 
for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ? 

Don't start me on: 
the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by 
the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
or just plain: 
FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 

No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)
Getting Late... 
Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
and all these ideas will be legacy.

Regards, 

PdV

 

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Re: Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Vladimir Begun
Piet de Visser wrote:
CCCP:
USSR:
:)
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Storage Frust....

2003-09-24 Thread Piet de Visser
Group, 

After another run-in with Storage, 
need to Vent Some frustrations:

BAARF 

Thank you.

While I'm at it, 
let me add some other RAD ideas:

Frustrated by vendors and manuals, 
we were about to turn BAARF into: 
battle against any Raw Filesystems 
(Yes, Yes, I know, a raw-dev is not a FS).

But, not wanting to thread on other ppls turf, we thought 

CCCP: 
for Compulsory use of a Clustered Computing Platform, 
whose mission should be to elimiate all usage of 
Mulitple, In-duh-vidual, ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs 
and to enforce the use of single-installed Oracle software 
on Clustered file systems.

And to stay in the same retro-atmosphere, we looked at: 

USSR: 
for Usage of Single System Rollout: 
to proclaim the use of sinle-installed ORACLE_BASE/HOMEs, 
partly inspired by OpenSSI.org

More ideas anyone ? 

Don't start me on: 
the RAC party : Ridiculous Acronym Creators 
followed by 
the RAW devices: Ridiculous Acronym Worshippers 
or just plain: 
FAD : Funny Acronym Department ? 

No harm, no offence intended anywhere
(except for some storage ppl, maybe)

Getting Late... 
Tomorrow is 10G lanch-Europe, 
and all these ideas will be legacy.

Regards, 

PdV

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