[Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-14 Thread Kalyan Mukherjea
Hello Doug, I am really surprised by the amount of responses my post has evoked, Yours is, by far, the most detailed and well thought out. It is a pity that I don't know any computer languages and so am not in a position to offer any assistance in any of your four proposals. But Gilles short post

Re: [Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-13 Thread Kalyan Mukherjea
Hello Gilles, Thanks for the very useful hints on how to stop emacspeak from speaking out the URL under each link. Also I feel reassured when I hear an expert like Doug Smith or yourself agreeing that using emacspeak to browse the web is quite frustrating. TVR's account

Re: [Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-13 Thread Gilles Casse
Here is an excerpt from Mercury News [1]: The problem with the Web these days, Raman and others say, is that content takes a back seat to presentation. Nevertheless, we have to remain optimistic since there is work in progress from technical, political or legal sides. Cheers, Gilles [1]

[Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-12 Thread Gilles Casse
*** La traduction en français se trouve après les 3 astérisques (*) Hello Kalyan and all, Could you please elaborate, Kalyan, on your point concerning Emacspeak and Google? Which are the inefficiencies you mntionned? Thanks. Besides it, I supply below a few details which could interest new

[Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-12 Thread Kalyan Mukherjea
Many thanks for the help. Sure, M-x w3m and then S asks for the search item. I'll illustrate with my latest attempt at locating a download for yassr: I am taken to a page with search results for `yassr + speech synthesizer' and now the fun... If I press TAB the cursor goes to the nearest link

[Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-12 Thread Terrence van Ettinger
Wow! I didn't know w3m had a direct patch to google! Thanks! Terrence -- Terrence van Ettinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo: terrencevak; AIM: terrence van e; MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Moderator: Sonic Theater Discussion

[Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-12 Thread Doug Smith
You have probably done pretty well. It is true. I don't like the internet in its current incarnation. I use it as little as possible, and this is coming from a research scientist who needs the library as much or more than many people put together. You just have to learn to listen through

Re: [Oralux] Googling using Emacspeak

2005-02-12 Thread Gilles Casse
Hello Kalyan, Thanks for your post. Firstly, The New York Times website can be improved and I hope it will do; the 4 columns layout relies on tables instead of CSS, there are plenty of links which are not really grouped. The headers are missing, etc... On another hand, this website provides a