Colin who said:

>A comment on Phrag. kovachii being decimated in Peru, could it be that the
>Peruvians stripped the place bare. .

In my humble opinion, it really does not matter much who stripped the Pk
habitats bare,
Peruvians, or non-Peruvians!!!

The Pk plants were removed from their habitats  illegally, without a
collecting permit from INRENA .
(Peruvian Ministry of  Natural Resources).

The Pk plants left Peru illegally, without export and import CITES documents.

It is important to recognize that those who purchased them are as guilty
of habitat depletion as those who collected and sold them.

>Being in the country they wouldn't need any
>CITES papers unless exporting them

Correct, but these Pk plants would still BE ILLEGAL in Peru, for they were
collected without
a permit. Only two collecting permits were issued by INRENA, for 5 plants
each, to two
Peruvian orchid nurseries. Those plants must remain in Peru. Artificial
propagations from
these ten plants may be exported with CITES documents. INRENA decides "if "
and  "when."
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