Re: [orientdb] Re: [Breaking News] CallidusCloud Acquires OrientDB, the Leading Multi-Model Database Technology

[Hristo Stoyanov]

Thanks Luca,
It's best to put out a blog or news announcement that clearly states that:
- All OrientDB features currently available in the Community edition will 
stay there.
- There will be no drastic price increase for those who do decide to 
upgrade to the Enterprise edition.

Please, forgive the community for asking such questions, we have been 
burned before.


On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 4:21:51 PM UTC-7, l.garulli wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> OrientDB is here to stay. CallidusCloud bought OrientDB as an investment 
> in the Graph and Multi-Model technology because they believe this is the 
> best technology in the DBMS world.
>
> In the last months, we've seen the closing of some of the DBMS companies 
> that weren't able to be sustainable after years (Basho, RethinkDB, etc). 
> I'm sure it has been a pain for their clients that have seen their 
> investments failing and a migration to another DBMS is a very expensive 
> thing.
>
> Until the last week, OrientDB was a small player, but profitable, in the 
> crowded DBMS market. Thanks to CallidusCloud (a public company on NASDAQ), 
> OrientDB is now the most solid company in the NoSQL space. 
>
> So this is a good news for both clients and users!
>
> OrientDB Community Enterprise *remains Open Source with the same Apache 2 
> license*. OrientDB Enterprise Edition remains commercial. *All the 
> clients continue to be supported*.
>
> I hope this responded to your concerns.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Luca Garulli
> VP OrientDB
>
>
> On 22 September 2017 at 21:58, Tielman Van Vleck  > wrote:
>
>> True, but Oracle understands databases. Luca (we met in Austin last 
>> year): you will have to fight hard for autonomy and constantly prove the 
>> relevance of OrientDB within a company with other priorities. Remember what 
>> happened to CompuServe after H Block bought them - Block intended to keep 
>> the product alive, but really bought them for their computing hardware and 
>> wouldn't give them the capital needed to compete against AOL's marketing. 
>> Oops... don't let CC forget that story!
>>
>> -Tielman
>>
>>
>> On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 1:24:37 PM UTC-4, ad...@cs.miami.edu 
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> >>We all remember the path mysql took, after oracle acquired it.
>>>
>>> I am not a heavy mysql user, but I don't think mysql took a terrible 
>>> turn after oracle.  Mysql still seems to be aviable when I want to install 
>>> it, there is still a large communit support network, and it more less works 
>>> as expected, but perhaps those who are more invested in mysql will view the 
>>> situation different.
>>>
>>> -Adam
>>>
>>> On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 9:42:49 AM UTC-4, Manabu Tokunaga wrote:

 Interesting discussions. I have been in many situations where "I've 
 been acquired. Everything discussed here is a very legitimate customer 
 concern and hope that there will be official and confirmed answers from 
 the 
 new company.

 In terms of the community aspect of it, we know, for example, there are 
 OpenJDK vs Oracle Java and MariaDB vs mySQL type situations where they are 
 functionally compatible forks derived from the acquired base. If this is 
 possible, then as a community, we have protection.

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Re: [orientdb] Re: [Breaking News] CallidusCloud Acquires OrientDB, the Leading Multi-Model Database Technology

[adam]

>>We all remember the path mysql took, after oracle acquired it.

I am not a heavy mysql user, but I don't think mysql took a terrible turn 
after oracle.  Mysql still seems to be aviable when I want to install it, 
there is still a large communit support network, and it more less works as 
expected, but perhaps those who are more invested in mysql will view the 
situation different.

-Adam

On Friday, September 22, 2017 at 9:42:49 AM UTC-4, Manabu Tokunaga wrote:
>
> Interesting discussions. I have been in many situations where "I've been 
> acquired. Everything discussed here is a very legitimate customer concern 
> and hope that there will be official and confirmed answers from the new 
> company.
>
> In terms of the community aspect of it, we know, for example, there are 
> OpenJDK vs Oracle Java and MariaDB vs mySQL type situations where they are 
> functionally compatible forks derived from the acquired base. If this is 
> possible, then as a community, we have protection.
>

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Re: [orientdb] Locked out from DB when accidentally changing permissions for admins from to "Deny all but".

[Luigi Dell'Aquila]

Hi Raymond,

Did you try to access with root credentials?

Thanks

Luigi


2017-09-22 17:57 GMT+02:00 Raymond Willems :

> Dear Community,
>
> when looking around in the permissions UI of Studio, I accidentally
> changed the admins permissions from "Allow all but" to "Deny all but",
> because the drop down menu was blank.
>
> The settings were saved immediately so I was not able to login as admin
> since then.
>
> Does anyone have a hint on how to get my access back?
>
> Best regards,
> Raymond
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[orientdb] Locked out from DB when accidentally changing permissions for admins from to "Deny all but".

[Raymond Willems]

Dear Community,

when looking around in the permissions UI of Studio, I accidentally changed 
the admins permissions from "Allow all but" to "Deny all but", because the 
drop down menu was blank.

The settings were saved immediately so I was not able to login as admin 
since then.

Does anyone have a hint on how to get my access back?

Best regards,
Raymond

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Re: [orientdb] Re: [Breaking News] CallidusCloud Acquires OrientDB, the Leading Multi-Model Database Technology

[Manabu Tokunaga]

Interesting discussions. I have been in many situations where "I've been
acquired. Everything discussed here is a very legitimate customer concern
and hope that there will be official and confirmed answers from the new
company.

In terms of the community aspect of it, we know, for example, there are
OpenJDK vs Oracle Java and MariaDB vs mySQL type situations where they are
functionally compatible forks derived from the acquired base. If this is
possible, then as a community, we have protection.

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[orientdb] Re: [Breaking News] CallidusCloud Acquires OrientDB, the Leading Multi-Model Database Technology

[hartmut bischoff]

This were my first thoughts, too.
We all remember the path mysql took, after oracle acquired it.

The development is not surprising though, if I recall correctly, private 
equity invested in the company about a year ago. 
Since the official announcement of  Callidus (there has been a REUTERS 
announcement), their share price went down. 
Sadly, OrientDB is now Property of one of those very high valued companies, 
which don't generate profits (P/E: -67, P/B: 6,7). This leads to the 
suspicion, that there are interested in short-term revenues only. 
This darkens the prospects for the community edition and sends a negative 
signal to customers of the enterprise edition.

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