Re: orion + multi processor's X86 PC

2001-01-28 Thread Scott Stirling

The way Java works with respect to CPUs is it implements threading
through the native OS it's running on.  That way the programmer doesn't
have to deal with OS-specific process and threading architectures in his
code. The only time this isn't the case is with older VM's on Linux and
UNIX where green threads were used.  Green threads were a user-level
thread library that made the JVM appear to the OS as a single-threaded
process.  You can still find green threads in some 1.2.x JVMs on Linux
and Solaris, but I wouldn't recommend anything less than a 1.3 JVM
anyway.

So a JVM running on an SMP system is responsible for cooperating with
the OS to manage threads across the processors.  Orion, JRun, Tomcat,
etc. do nothing to limit or enhance SMP support in the Java code because
it is entirely up to the JVM and the OS.

That said, any recent JVM  (i.e., 1.3) from any JVM vendor will support
SMP because they all rely on native thread implementations.  

Scott Stirling 

On 26 Jan 2001 08:42:01 +0100, PHiL wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We planned to go on production state of our developpement under ORION, but
 we don't have a clue on multiprocessors (SMP) and Orion.
 
 If we run a X86 PC server with 2 XEON and sun's JVM 1.3 + Orion + NT or
 2000, is this will be enought to take advantage of SMP ???
 Maybe we need to run 2 JVMs and setup a "cluster like" config ???
 
 If someone expirience this, just let us know.
 
 Thanks.
 
 PHiL.
 
 
 





Re: orion + multi processor's X86 PC

2001-01-26 Thread Robert Krueger

At 08:42 26.01.2001 , you wrote:
Hi,

We planned to go on production state of our developpement under ORION, but
we don't have a clue on multiprocessors (SMP) and Orion.

If we run a X86 PC server with 2 XEON and sun's JVM 1.3 + Orion + NT or
2000, is this will be enought to take advantage of SMP ???
Maybe we need to run 2 JVMs and setup a "cluster like" config ???

no, you'll be ok. one of our prod systems (linux however) is exactly like 
that and it does use both processors very well. since NT's threading is 
even supposed to be better than linux's :( currently I don't see why you 
shouldn't see the same.

HTH

robert

If someone expirience this, just let us know.

Thanks.

PHiL.



(-) Robert Krger
(-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft fr Informationstechnologie mbH
(-) Brder-Knau-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt,
(-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373
(-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de





Re: orion + multi processor's X86 PC

2001-01-26 Thread Ray Harrison

Windows 2000 dual processor box runs very well with 1.4.5 and uses both processors 
quite nicely.

--- Robert Krueger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 At 08:42 26.01.2001 , you wrote:
 Hi,
 
 We planned to go on production state of our developpement under ORION, but
 we don't have a clue on multiprocessors (SMP) and Orion.
 
 If we run a X86 PC server with 2 XEON and sun's JVM 1.3 + Orion + NT or
 2000, is this will be enought to take advantage of SMP ???
 Maybe we need to run 2 JVMs and setup a "cluster like" config ???

 no, you'll be ok. one of our prod systems (linux however) is exactly like
 that and it does use both processors very well. since NT's threading is
 even supposed to be better than linux's :( currently I don't see why you
 shouldn't see the same.

 HTH

 robert

 If someone expirience this, just let us know.
 
 Thanks.
 
 PHiL.
 
 

 (-) Robert Krüger
 (-) SIGNAL 7 Gesellschaft für Informationstechnologie mbH
 (-) Brüder-Knauß-Str. 79 - 64285 Darmstadt,
 (-) Tel: 06151 665401, Fax: 06151 665373
 (-) [EMAIL PROTECTED], www.signal7.de




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