Re: orion-list more on Qumran Essene polis; gens; etc.

2001-06-12 Thread goranson
So the answer to the question whether one can properly translate infra here as placing Essenes between Jericho and Ein Gedi (i.e., in an area including Kh. Qumran and caves but not including the Y. Hirschfeld site)without some a priori assumption involving Qumran ms discoveries of c. 1947ff

Re: orion-list Pharisaic texts

2001-06-12 Thread Stephen Goranson
Looking for previously known texts (e.g. 1, 2 Maccabees) which are missing at Qumran is only one, incomplete, way to characterize what the collection has and does not have. Looking at the previously unknown texts (and looking at all the texts anew), one can ask whether any particular Qumran

Re: orion-list Pharisaic texts

2001-06-12 Thread RGmyrken
Interesting point, Herbert. Ephron has I think convincingly demonstrated that the Talmudic passage on the dispute between the Pharisees and Sadducees under Hyrkanus I to which you refer is not an independent tradition but derives from Josephus. (His argument, as I recall, hinges on the

orion-list Dating the Hebrew Bible

2001-06-12 Thread Walter Mattfeld
In light of the recent discussions on this list regarding an attempt to establish a date for the Hebrew Bible, I thought this letter posted to another list (Ancien-L) might be of some help to those in the audience struggling in establishing a date for the scriptures. Dear Tom, Your last