Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-11 Thread Angelos Tzotsos 
Hi all,

I just saw the PR for the artwork and we are missing the OSGeoLive logo
with the version on it somewhere...

On Sat, Aug 11, 2018 at 2:03 AM Vicky Vergara  wrote:

> Hi all
>
> I praise Cameron's efforts to do this task, I am conscious that we are not
> designers, and I also find draft 4 perfect.
> And with the timing we have, I think that its time to use it.
>
> Please don't forget that the documentation needs a screen shot of the VM
> with the background.
> Regards
> Vicky
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Luca Delucchi 
> wrote:
>
>> On 8 August 2018 at 21:56, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> >
>> > I added some more drafts to the ticket.
>> >
>> > @Cameron - I like your draft too
>> > * just created a new version with more focus on OSM and tree in the
>> > coastline
>> >
>> > https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2090
>> >
>>
>> I like draf t4, I also like the idea to have only the lefth giraffe
>>
>> > Astrid
>> >
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-10 Thread Vicky Vergara 
Hi all

I praise Cameron's efforts to do this task, I am conscious that we are not
designers, and I also find draft 4 perfect.
And with the timing we have, I think that its time to use it.

Please don't forget that the documentation needs a screen shot of the VM
with the background.
Regards
Vicky





On Wed, Aug 8, 2018 at 4:42 PM, Luca Delucchi  wrote:

> On 8 August 2018 at 21:56, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 
> wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> Hi,
>
> >
> > I added some more drafts to the ticket.
> >
> > @Cameron - I like your draft too
> > * just created a new version with more focus on OSM and tree in the
> > coastline
> >
> > https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2090
> >
>
> I like draf t4, I also like the idea to have only the lefth giraffe
>
> > Astrid
> >
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-08 Thread Luca Delucchi 
On 8 August 2018 at 21:56, Astrid Emde (OSGeo)  wrote:
> Hello,

Hi,

>
> I added some more drafts to the ticket.
>
> @Cameron - I like your draft too
> * just created a new version with more focus on OSM and tree in the
> coastline
>
> https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2090
>

I like draf t4, I also like the idea to have only the lefth giraffe

> Astrid
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-08 Thread Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 

Hello,

I added some more drafts to the ticket.

@Cameron - I like your draft too
* just created a new version with more focus on OSM and tree in the 
coastline


https://trac.osgeo.org/osgeolive/ticket/2090

Astrid

Am 08.08.2018 20:37 schrieb Nicolas Roelandt:

Thanks Cameron,

From someone who was not inspired, it is really really nice. :)

I really like it

Cheers,

Nicolas

2018-08-08 12:11 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
:


Ok, I've created a proposed OSGeoLive background image:



https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v3ub9k64w9oolwx/AAARy2MkorXCCwo2R9mm9rXoa?dl=0

[1]

It:

* Has an OSM background of Tanania

* Includes a giraffe (2 even) and a nice tree under a CC0 license


https://www.publicdomainpictures.net/en/view-image.php?image=57421&picture=giraffe-silhouette-at-sunset

[2]

I created with gimp, and source file is available if you would like
to improve the image.

Cheers, Cameron

On 2/8/18 4:44 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
Hello althio,

thanks for all the good suggestions. We should check them.

Astrid

Am 02.08.2018 01:07 schrieb althio:
Hi OSGeo Live people,

There are already good suggestions.

If you need more, I would propose:

- using OSM data of Dar, but not the OSM base rendering
- maybe another existing rendering (1 example:
https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/-6.81422/39.30086 [3])
- some examples of real map here: http://ramanihuria.org/data/ [4]
- maybe asking a skilled QGIS user to render a map

- if you want to compose an image, you could go with pictures of
people
- I do not like the idea of animals
- only, why not the national animal, the giraffe

All the best

Benoit - althio

On 1 August 2018 at 23:52, Ben Caradoc-Davies 
wrote:
Tanzania's national animal is the giraffe.

On 01/08/18 19:05, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with
the map
on it.

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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-08 Thread Nicolas Roelandt 
Thanks Cameron,

>From someone who was not inspired, it is really really nice. :)

I really like it

Cheers,

Nicolas

2018-08-08 12:11 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter :

> Ok, I've created a proposed OSGeoLive background image:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v3ub9k64w9oolwx/AAARy2MkorXCCwo2R9mm9rXoa?dl=0
>
> It:
>
> * Has an OSM background of Tanania
>
> * Includes a giraffe (2 even) and a nice tree under a CC0 license
> https://www.publicdomainpictures.net/en/view-image.php?
> image=57421&picture=giraffe-silhouette-at-sunset
>
> I created with gimp, and source file is available if you would like to
> improve the image.
>
> Cheers, Cameron
>
>
>
> On 2/8/18 4:44 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>
>> Hello althio,
>>
>> thanks for all the good suggestions. We should check them.
>>
>> Astrid
>>
>> Am 02.08.2018 01:07 schrieb althio:
>>
>>> Hi OSGeo Live people,
>>>
>>> There are already good suggestions.
>>>
>>> If you need more, I would propose:
>>>
>>> - using OSM data of Dar, but not the OSM base rendering
>>> - maybe another existing rendering (1 example:
>>> https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/-6.81422/39.30086)
>>> - some examples of real map here: http://ramanihuria.org/data/
>>> - maybe asking a skilled QGIS user to render a map
>>>
>>> - if you want to compose an image, you could go with pictures of people
>>> - I do not like the idea of animals
>>> - only, why not the national animal, the giraffe
>>>
>>> All the best
>>>
>>> Benoit - althio
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 August 2018 at 23:52, Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:
>>>
 Tanzania's national animal is the giraffe.

 On 01/08/18 19:05, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

>
> I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with the
> map
> on it.
>


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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-08 Thread Cameron Shorter 

Ok, I've created a proposed OSGeoLive background image:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v3ub9k64w9oolwx/AAARy2MkorXCCwo2R9mm9rXoa?dl=0

It:

* Has an OSM background of Tanania

* Includes a giraffe (2 even) and a nice tree under a CC0 license 
https://www.publicdomainpictures.net/en/view-image.php?image=57421&picture=giraffe-silhouette-at-sunset


I created with gimp, and source file is available if you would like to 
improve the image.


Cheers, Cameron


On 2/8/18 4:44 pm, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello althio,

thanks for all the good suggestions. We should check them.

Astrid

Am 02.08.2018 01:07 schrieb althio:

Hi OSGeo Live people,

There are already good suggestions.

If you need more, I would propose:

- using OSM data of Dar, but not the OSM base rendering
- maybe another existing rendering (1 example:
https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/-6.81422/39.30086)
- some examples of real map here: http://ramanihuria.org/data/
- maybe asking a skilled QGIS user to render a map

- if you want to compose an image, you could go with pictures of people
- I do not like the idea of animals
- only, why not the national animal, the giraffe

All the best

Benoit - althio



On 1 August 2018 at 23:52, Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:

Tanzania's national animal is the giraffe.

On 01/08/18 19:05, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:


I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with 
the map

on it.



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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-01 Thread Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 

Hello althio,

thanks for all the good suggestions. We should check them.

Astrid

Am 02.08.2018 01:07 schrieb althio:

Hi OSGeo Live people,

There are already good suggestions.

If you need more, I would propose:

- using OSM data of Dar, but not the OSM base rendering
- maybe another existing rendering (1 example:
https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/-6.81422/39.30086)
- some examples of real map here: http://ramanihuria.org/data/
- maybe asking a skilled QGIS user to render a map

- if you want to compose an image, you could go with pictures of people
- I do not like the idea of animals
- only, why not the national animal, the giraffe

All the best

Benoit - althio



On 1 August 2018 at 23:52, Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:

Tanzania's national animal is the giraffe.

On 01/08/18 19:05, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:


I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with the 
map

on it.



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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-01 Thread althio 
Hi OSGeo Live people,

There are already good suggestions.

If you need more, I would propose:

- using OSM data of Dar, but not the OSM base rendering
- maybe another existing rendering (1 example:
https://opentopomap.org/#map=15/-6.81422/39.30086)
- some examples of real map here: http://ramanihuria.org/data/
- maybe asking a skilled QGIS user to render a map

- if you want to compose an image, you could go with pictures of people
- I do not like the idea of animals
- only, why not the national animal, the giraffe

All the best

Benoit - althio



On 1 August 2018 at 23:52, Ben Caradoc-Davies  wrote:
> Tanzania's national animal is the giraffe.
>
> On 01/08/18 19:05, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>>
>> I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with the map
>> on it.
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-01 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies 

Tanzania's national animal is the giraffe.

On 01/08/18 19:05, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with the 
map on it.


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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-08-01 Thread Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 

Hello,

(sorry, that I did not get involved at last irc meeting due to bad 
internet connection)


I still prefer the OSM Map and would vote +1 for the OSM Map

Sure many of us know OSM and use it in their daily live. But this years 
FOSS4G will also attract more newcomers.


OSM Map would be something that happens today and not a historic map or 
art


Maybe we can't produce a wow, but we could mention all the mappinmg 
initiative and usecases where OSM get involved in Africa f.e. 
http://ramanihuria.org


As this year FOSS4G is connected with HOTOSM it is one reason more for a 
OSM map

It could encourage people to get involved

I also like the idea of the transparent image of an elephant with the 
map on it.


See also discussion at irc meeting 2018-07-30 
http://irclogs.geoapt.com/osgeolive/%23osgeolive.2018-07-30.log


Astrid


Am 31.07.2018 20:56 schrieb Cameron Shorter:

I've reached out to the artist to ask if they are interested in
sharing an image under an open license with us. Lets see if they
respond.

On 31/07/2018 7:07 PM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:


Dear all,

Thanks for your comment and feedback.

Cameron, I agree with you. I can contact the artist
(https://www.cyon.se/about/ [1]) if you want

or somebody from Africa Local Chapter or the Dar es Salaam LOC do
it…

or I do it and can put somebody of you in cc for the follow-up ?

What do you think ?

Kind Regards,

Maë//e

2018-07-30 9:25 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter
:

Indeed, this is a beautiful collection of maps. I particularly like
the language map.

It also has a great story behind it. To date, we haven't linked to
the story behind the osgeolive basemap, but maybe it is time to
start doing so.

The one glitch is the copyright - in that we will be wanting to have
the map available under an Open license. Maelle, I think it is a
good idea to reach out to Nikolaj Cyon to sound out if she would
like her image to be available on an Open Source distribution of
software - noting that we would be wanting it to be available under
an open license. (She might be interested in sharing a cut down
version of the image in an Open format).

Cheers, Cameron

On 30/07/2018 1:01 AM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:

Hello,

I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It
was Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj
Cyon :

https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/ [2]

If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it too,
we could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...

Kind Regards,
Maë//e

2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies :
Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or Dar
es Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like advice from the
LOC. It would be great to give Dar es Salaam the same prominence
(OSGeoLive background) as previous FOSS4G hosts.

The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as myself.
:-(

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from Dar Es
Salaam - that shows how great the region is mapped
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472 [3]

or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:
I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for the
OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those who used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:
I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the
Africa Local
Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter
 wrote:

The time has come to select a background image for our next
OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es
Salaam,
and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or
artistic
eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The
image
needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need
to be
shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.

I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would
be good?
Maybe something like this:



https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg

[4]

Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.

Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who
would be
willing to help us out here?

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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-31 Thread Cameron Shorter 
I've reached out to the artist to ask if they are interested in sharing 
an image under an open license with us. Lets see if they respond.



On 31/07/2018 7:07 PM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:

Dear all,

Thanks for your comment and feedback.

Cameron, I agree with you. I can contact the artist 
(https://www.cyon.se/about/) if you want


or somebody from Africa Local Chapter or the Dar es Salaam LOC do it…

or I do it and can put somebody of you in cc for the follow-up ?

What do you think ?

Kind Regards,

Maë//e

2018-07-30 9:25 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter >:


Indeed, this is a beautiful collection of maps. I particularly
like the language map.

It also has a great story behind it. To date, we haven't linked to
the story behind the osgeolive basemap, but maybe it is time to
start doing so.

The one glitch is the copyright - in that we will be wanting to
have the map available under an Open license. Maelle, I think it
is a good idea to reach out to Nikolaj Cyon to sound out if she
would like her image to be available on an Open Source
distribution of software - noting that we would be wanting it to
be available under an open license. (She might be interested in
sharing a cut down version of the image in an Open format).

Cheers, Cameron



On 30/07/2018 1:01 AM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:

Hello,

I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It
was Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj
Cyon :

https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/


If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it
too, we could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...

Kind Regards,
Maë//e

2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies mailto:b...@transient.nz>>:

Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania
or Dar es Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like
advice from the LOC. It would be great to give Dar es Salaam
the same prominence (OSGeoLive background) as previous FOSS4G
hosts.

The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as
myself.  :-(

Kind regards,
Ben.


On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from
Dar Es Salaam - that shows how great the region is mapped
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472


or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:

I love historical maps. However, maps have been both
the tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been
particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa
for the OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those
who used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well
consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the
map. I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the
Dar es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but
linking in the Africa Local
Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter
mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The time has come to select a background
image for our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in
time for FOSS4G Dar es Salaam,
and we are looking for inspiration for a
background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from
the image from the
conference location, and are hoping that
someone with a mapping or artistic
eye can suggest an interesting map, or image
that we can use. The image
needs to be available under an open license,
and will likely need to be
shaded so that icons will still stand out
against it.

I'm wondering whether a historic navigating

Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-31 Thread Maelle Vercauteren 
Dear all,

Thanks for your comment and feedback.

Cameron, I agree with you. I can contact the artist (
https://www.cyon.se/about/) if you want

or somebody from Africa Local Chapter or the Dar es Salaam LOC do it…

or I do it and can put somebody of you in cc for the follow-up ?

What do you think ?

Kind Regards,

Maë//e

2018-07-30 9:25 GMT+02:00 Cameron Shorter :

> Indeed, this is a beautiful collection of maps. I particularly like the
> language map.
>
> It also has a great story behind it. To date, we haven't linked to the
> story behind the osgeolive basemap, but maybe it is time to start doing so.
>
> The one glitch is the copyright - in that we will be wanting to have the
> map available under an Open license. Maelle, I think it is a good idea to
> reach out to Nikolaj Cyon to sound out if she would like her image to be
> available on an Open Source distribution of software - noting that we would
> be wanting it to be available under an open license. (She might be
> interested in sharing a cut down version of the image in an Open format).
>
> Cheers, Cameron
>
>
>
> On 30/07/2018 1:01 AM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It was
> Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj Cyon :
>
> https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/
>
> If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it too, we
> could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...
>
> Kind Regards,
> Maë//e
>
> 2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies :
>
>> Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or Dar es
>> Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like advice from the LOC. It
>> would be great to give Dar es Salaam the same prominence (OSGeoLive
>> background) as previous FOSS4G hosts.
>>
>> The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ben.
>>
>>
>> On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Ben you are with your comment.
>>>
>>> What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam -
>>> that shows how great the region is mapped
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472
>>>
>>> or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.
>>>
>>> Astrid
>>>
>>> Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:
>>>
 I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and
 emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly
 affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for the OSGeoLive
 background must be informed by the actions of those who used it and
 their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
 current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would
 follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
 LOC.

 Kind regards,
 Ben.

 On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

> I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the Africa
> Local
> Chapter :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:
>
> The time has come to select a background image for our next OSGeoLive
>> release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es
>> Salaam,
>> and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.
>>
>> Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
>> conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or
>> artistic
>> eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The
>> image
>> needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need to
>> be
>> shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.
>>
>> I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would be
>> good?
>> Maybe something like this:
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg
>>
>> Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.
>>
>> Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who would
>> be
>> willing to help us out here?
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Technology Demystifier
>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>
>> M +61 (0) 419 142 254Mark Iliffe 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> disc...@lists.osgeo.org
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>> Transient Software Limited 
>> New Zealand
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-30 Thread Cameron Shorter 
Another idea which I suspect would work would be to have a translucent 
map image, with transparent African image imposed over it - like an 
elephant over an OSM basemap. Is there someone with a little graphical 
flair who would want to put such an image together?



On 30/07/2018 5:59 PM, Cameron Shorter wrote:


-0 from me for an OSM basemap for OSGeoLive (unless someone wants to 
enhance the image).


Reasons: While I think it is great to promote OSM, I think that it is 
best if we can add a bit of creative flair to each OSGeoLive release. 
Using OSM is using something most of us will already be familiar with 
and won't have a "Wow" factor (unless someone volunteers to develop a 
new and cool style for the basemap). Also, we want each release to 
look different to the last so that people can easily recognise the 
difference, and using an OSM image every year won't show such an 
obvious difference (unless combined with another image in some cool way).



On 30/07/2018 6:26 AM, Ketty Adoch wrote:

Thank you Mark!

+1 to the OSM Map with a focus on Dar Es Salaam- 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472 



PS: I do not even see our people on Nikolaj Cyon's imagined map, 
perhaps we were still in transit to Uganda from the Ethiopian 
Mountains or somewhere in the Bahr el Ghazal (Sudan) :-)



best,

--

Ketty


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Mark Iliffe > wrote:


Hi All,

There is a discussion below that needs your voice!

Cheers,

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:


*From:* Maelle Vercauteren mailto:maver...@ulb.ac.be>>
*Date:* 29 July 2018 at 11:01:25 GMT-4
*To:* Ben Caradoc-Davies mailto:b...@transient.nz>>
*Cc:* OSGeo Discussions mailto:disc...@lists.osgeo.org>>, osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org

*Subject:* *Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeoLive] Suggestions for a
background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme*

Hello,

I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It
was Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by
Nikolaj Cyon :

https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/


If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it
too, we could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...

Kind Regards,
Maë//e

2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies mailto:b...@transient.nz>>:

Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania
or Dar es Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like
advice from the LOC. It would be great to give Dar es Salaam
the same prominence (OSGeoLive background) as previous
FOSS4G hosts.

The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as
myself.  :-(

Kind regards,
Ben.


On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from
Dar Es Salaam - that shows how great the region is mapped
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472


or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:

I love historical maps. However, maps have been both
the tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been
particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa
for the OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those
who used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well
consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on
the map. I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and
the Dar es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but
linking in the Africa Local
Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter
mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The time has come to select a background
image for our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in
time for FOSS4G Dar es Salaam,
and we are looking for inspiration for a
background image.

Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-30 Thread Cameron Shorter 
-0 from me for an OSM basemap for OSGeoLive (unless someone wants to 
enhance the image).


Reasons: While I think it is great to promote OSM, I think that it is 
best if we can add a bit of creative flair to each OSGeoLive release. 
Using OSM is using something most of us will already be familiar with 
and won't have a "Wow" factor (unless someone volunteers to develop a 
new and cool style for the basemap). Also, we want each release to look 
different to the last so that people can easily recognise the 
difference, and using an OSM image every year won't show such an obvious 
difference (unless combined with another image in some cool way).



On 30/07/2018 6:26 AM, Ketty Adoch wrote:

Thank you Mark!

+1 to the OSM Map with a focus on Dar Es Salaam- 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472 



PS: I do not even see our people on Nikolaj Cyon's imagined map, 
perhaps we were still in transit to Uganda from the Ethiopian 
Mountains or somewhere in the Bahr el Ghazal (Sudan) :-)



best,

--

Ketty


On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Mark Iliffe > wrote:


Hi All,

There is a discussion below that needs your voice!

Cheers,

Mark

Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:


*From:* Maelle Vercauteren mailto:maver...@ulb.ac.be>>
*Date:* 29 July 2018 at 11:01:25 GMT-4
*To:* Ben Caradoc-Davies mailto:b...@transient.nz>>
*Cc:* OSGeo Discussions mailto:disc...@lists.osgeo.org>>, osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org

*Subject:* *Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeoLive] Suggestions for a
background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme*

Hello,

I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It
was Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj
Cyon :

https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/


If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it
too, we could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...

Kind Regards,
Maë//e

2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies mailto:b...@transient.nz>>:

Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania
or Dar es Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like
advice from the LOC. It would be great to give Dar es Salaam
the same prominence (OSGeoLive background) as previous FOSS4G
hosts.

The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as
myself.  :-(

Kind regards,
Ben.


On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from
Dar Es Salaam - that shows how great the region is mapped
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472


or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:

I love historical maps. However, maps have been both
the tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been
particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa
for the OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those
who used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well
consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the
map. I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the
Dar es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but
linking in the Africa Local
Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter
mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The time has come to select a background
image for our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in
time for FOSS4G Dar es Salaam,
and we are looking for inspiration for a
background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from
the image from the
conference location, and are hoping that
someone with a mapping or artistic
eye can suggest an interesting map, or image

Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-30 Thread Cameron Shorter 
Indeed, this is a beautiful collection of maps. I particularly like the 
language map.


It also has a great story behind it. To date, we haven't linked to the 
story behind the osgeolive basemap, but maybe it is time to start doing so.


The one glitch is the copyright - in that we will be wanting to have the 
map available under an Open license. Maelle, I think it is a good idea 
to reach out to Nikolaj Cyon to sound out if she would like her image to 
be available on an Open Source distribution of software - noting that we 
would be wanting it to be available under an open license. (She might be 
interested in sharing a cut down version of the image in an Open format).


Cheers, Cameron



On 30/07/2018 1:01 AM, Maelle Vercauteren wrote:

Hello,

I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It was 
Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj Cyon :


https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/

If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it too, we 
could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...


Kind Regards,
Maë//e

2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies >:


Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or
Dar es Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like advice from
the LOC. It would be great to give Dar es Salaam the same
prominence (OSGeoLive background) as previous FOSS4G hosts.

The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(

Kind regards,
Ben.


On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from Dar Es
Salaam - that shows how great the region is mapped
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472


or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:

I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the
tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been
particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for
the OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those who
used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map.
I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar
es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but
linking in the Africa Local
Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter
mailto:cameron.shor...@gmail.com>> wrote:

The time has come to select a background image for
our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in time
for FOSS4G Dar es Salaam,
and we are looking for inspiration for a
background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the
image from the
conference location, and are hoping that someone
with a mapping or artistic
eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that
we can use. The image
needs to be available under an open license, and
will likely need to be
shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.

I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart
of Africa would be good?
Maybe something like this:


https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg



Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.

Are there any people in the mapping or African
communities who would be
willing to help us out here?

Warm regards,

-- 
Cameron Shorter

Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254Mark Iliffe
mailto:markili...@gmail.com>>





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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-29 Thread Ketty Adoch 
Thank
you Mark!

+1 to the
OSM Map with a focus on Dar Es Salaam-
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472

PS: I do not even see our people on
Nikolaj Cyon's imagined map, perhaps we were still in transit to Uganda
from the Ethiopian Mountains or somewhere in the Bahr el Ghazal (Sudan) :-)


best,

--

Ketty

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Mark Iliffe  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> There is a discussion below that needs
> your voice!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From:* Maelle Vercauteren 
> *Date:* 29 July 2018 at 11:01:25 GMT-4
> *To:* Ben Caradoc-Davies 
> *Cc:* OSGeo Discussions <
> disc...@lists.osgeo.org>,
> osgeolive@lists.osgeo.org
> *Subject:* *Re: [OSGeo-Discuss] [OSGeoLive] Suggestions for a background
> image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme*
>
> Hello,
>
> I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It was
> Africa if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by
> Nikolaj Cyon :
>
> https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/
>
> If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it too, we
> could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...
>
> Kind Regards,
> Maë//e
>
> 2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies :
>
>> Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or Dar es
>> Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like advice from the LOC. It
>> would be great to give Dar es Salaam the same prominence (OSGeoLive
>> background) as previous FOSS4G hosts.
>>
>> The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Ben.
>>
>>
>> On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> Ben you are with your comment.
>>>
>>> What do you think instead about an actual
>>> OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam - that shows how great the region is mapped
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472
>>>
>>> or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.
>>>
>>> Astrid
>>>
>>> Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:
>>>
 I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and
 emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly
 affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for the OSGeoLive
 background must be informed by the actions of those who used it and
 their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
 current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would
 follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
 LOC.

 Kind regards,
 Ben.

 On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

> I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the Africa
> Local
> Chapter :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter 
> wrote:
>
> The time has come to select a background image for our next OSGeoLive
>> release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es
>> Salaam,
>> and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.
>>
>> Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
>> conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or
>> artistic
>> eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The
>> image
>> needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need to
>> be
>> shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.
>>
>> I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would be
>> good?
>> Maybe something like this:
>>
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg
>>
>> Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.
>>
>> Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who would
>> be
>> willing to help us out here?
>>
>> Warm regards,
>>
>> --
>> Cameron Shorter
>> Technology Demystifier
>> Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant
>>
>> M +61 (0) 419 142 254Mark Iliffe 
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-29 Thread Maelle Vercauteren 
 Hello,

I take this occasion to share this map of Africa that I like. It was Africa
if colonialism had not occurred as imagined by Nikolaj Cyon :

https://www.cyon.se/#/alkebulan-1260-ah/

If the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC likes it too, we
could try to contact the artist and see if we can use it...

Kind Regards,
Maë//e

2018-07-29 0:17 GMT+02:00 Ben Caradoc-Davies :

> Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or Dar es
> Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like advice from the LOC. It
> would be great to give Dar es Salaam the same prominence (OSGeoLive
> background) as previous FOSS4G hosts.
>
> The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(
>
> Kind regards,
> Ben.
>
>
> On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Ben you are with your comment.
>>
>> What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam -
>> that shows how great the region is mapped
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472
>>
>> or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.
>>
>> Astrid
>>
>> Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:
>>
>>> I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and
>>> emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly
>>> affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for the OSGeoLive
>>> background must be informed by the actions of those who used it and
>>> their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
>>> current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would
>>> follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
>>> LOC.
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>> Ben.
>>>
>>> On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:
>>>
 I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the Africa
 Local
 Chapter :-)

 Cheers,

 Mark

 On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter 
 wrote:

 The time has come to select a background image for our next OSGeoLive
> release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es
> Salaam,
> and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.
>
> Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
> conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or
> artistic
> eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The image
> needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need to be
> shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.
>
> I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would be
> good?
> Maybe something like this:
>
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg
>
> Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.
>
> Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who would be
> willing to help us out here?
>
> Warm regards,
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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-28 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies 
Or an historical noncolonial or postcolonial map of Tanzania or Dar es 
Salaam? Or is this even a concern? I would like advice from the LOC. It 
would be great to give Dar es Salaam the same prominence (OSGeoLive 
background) as previous FOSS4G hosts.


The Africa list rejects email from nonsubscribers such as myself.  :-(

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 29/07/18 04:15, Astrid Emde (OSGeo) wrote:

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam - 
that shows how great the region is mapped

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472

or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:

I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for the OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those who used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:
I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the Africa 
Local

Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter  
wrote:



The time has come to select a background image for our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es 
Salaam,

and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or 
artistic

eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The image
needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need to be
shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.

I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would be 
good?

Maybe something like this:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg

Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.

Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who would be
willing to help us out here?

Warm regards,

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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-28 Thread Astrid Emde (OSGeo) 

Hello all,

Ben you are with your comment.

What do you think instead about an actual OSM Map from Dar Es Salaam - 
that shows how great the region is mapped

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=13/-6.8049/39.2472

or maybe a nice photo instead of a map.

Astrid

Am 28.07.2018 00:17 schrieb Ben Caradoc-Davies:

I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and
emblem of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly
affected. The choice of an historical map of Africa for the OSGeoLive
background must be informed by the actions of those who used it and
their impact on the people of Africa, as well consider of the
current-day appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would
follow the advice of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam
LOC.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:
I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the Africa 
Local

Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter  
wrote:



The time has come to select a background image for our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es 
Salaam,

and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or 
artistic
eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The 
image
needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need to 
be

shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.

I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would be 
good?

Maybe something like this:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg

Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.

Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who would 
be

willing to help us out here?

Warm regards,

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Re: [OSGeoLive] [OSGeo-Discuss] Suggestions for a background image for next OSGeoLive - with an African theme

2018-07-27 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies 
I love historical maps. However, maps have been both the tool and emblem 
of colonisation, by which Africa has been particularly badly affected. 
The choice of an historical map of Africa for the OSGeoLive background 
must be informed by the actions of those who used it and their impact on 
the people of Africa, as well consider of the current-day 
appropriateness of the labels used on the map. I would follow the advice 
of the Africa Local Chapter and the Dar es Salaam LOC.


Kind regards,
Ben.

On 28/07/18 09:23, Mark Iliffe wrote:

I would vote for the map that you'd listed, but linking in the Africa Local
Chapter :-)

Cheers,

Mark

On 27 July 2018 at 08:32, Cameron Shorter  wrote:


The time has come to select a background image for our next OSGeoLive
release, which is scheduled to be ready in time for FOSS4G Dar es Salaam,
and we are looking for inspiration for a background image.

Traditionally, we have drawn inspiration from the image from the
conference location, and are hoping that someone with a mapping or artistic
eye can suggest an interesting map, or image that we can use. The image
needs to be available under an open license, and will likely need to be
shaded so that icons will still stand out against it.

I'm wondering whether a historic navigating chart of Africa would be good?
Maybe something like this:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AMH-7121-KB_Map_of_Africa.jpg

Or maybe a drawing of some of the big African animals.

Are there any people in the mapping or African communities who would be
willing to help us out here?

Warm regards,

--
Cameron Shorter
Technology Demystifier
Open Technologies and Geospatial Consultant

M +61 (0) 419 142 254Mark Iliffe 






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