Re: [OSList] Asynchronous voting

2022-05-09 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Thomas! Great question. As Michael en Michael have asked: what is the reason you think the voting has added value? In my experience, voting was merely a distraction, sometimes even a big energy leak, so I stopped using it. I always make a big effort to get the reports in the hands of

Re: [OSList] Invitation to Open Space Hotline for Tuesday, April 19th at Noon EDT

2022-04-17 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Charles, Thanks! The time zone converter is nice, but when I clicked on it, it came up with a date in March (despite the url you gave, which contains the correct date). In March, Europe does not have DST yet (it starts the last Sunday of March) so the time came out wrong. When I

Re: [OSList] A Preface

2022-03-16 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Thank you dear Harrison, What a great read. So much depth and wisdom in just a few paragraphs. Made me happy to read it, like coming home. When I got to the bit where you write about the silence and about coming home, I realized that was exactly what was happening to me in that very

Re: [OSList] Who is BS-ing Whom?

2022-01-22 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
tive Collaboration coaching in participatory leadership advanced group facilitation services & learning opportunities On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 2:15 PM Koos de Heer via OSList mailto:oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > wrote: Dear Mark, The one and only burning question I have is: w

Re: [OSList] Who is BS-ing Whom?

2022-01-21 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Dear Mark, The one and only burning question I have is: why??? Why do you post a quote like that, saying that it is not your words but posting it nonetheless? And when someone objects, you repeat the quote about society and truth, implying that you do indeed support the text you posted.

Re: [OSList] Tree Fitzpatrick memorial celebration on March 21

2021-03-11 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Thank you Chris, this is really beautiful. Van: OSList Namens Chris Corrigan via OSList Verzonden: maandag 8 maart 2021 20:21 Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list CC: Chris Corrigan Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] Tree Fitzpatrick memorial celebration on March 21 A story about how

Re: [OSList] Where is Lisa? Here she is.

2020-06-14 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Dear Lisa, Thank you so much for writing and sharing your situation and your insights. Great to hear from you. Sorry to hear about your health and the passing of the parents. I will also send you a private mail. Much love and good wishes to both of you, Koos From: OSList On

Re: [OSList] Our son on his way home from Nepal

2020-04-08 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
That is great news Thomas, thank you for letting us know! Much love to you and Mia Koos Van: OSList Namens Thomas Herrmann via OSList Verzonden: woensdag 8 april 2020 09:01 Aan: 'GC list' ; 'OSLIST ' CC: Thomas Herrmann Onderwerp: [OSList] Our son on his way home from Nepal Just

Re: [OSList] What's going on with the OST entry on Wikipedia lately?

2020-02-19 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Dear friends, Why wait until WOSonOS? Editing Wikipedia pages is not difficult. I am a Wikipedia editor myself, it is not hard to learn. Wikipedia is like Open Space. Anyone with a good mind and a good heart can do it. I am willing to have a go at correcting the mistakes. Anyone of you

Re: [OSList] Zoom Communications as an OST Tool? Motley Fool stock advisor is pushing Zoom as a collaborative video tool investment...FYI

2020-01-18 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
I have used Zoom and as a tool it is OK. Not much better or worse or any more special than the other tools around. They are rather pushy and unpleasant  with their commercial activities, which is for me a reason to avoid them if I can.The mail you have forwarded confirms this.BestKoos

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

2019-12-05 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Mark, I have to disagree with you here on three points: “Respect is a two way street.” No it is not. This is the quid-pro-quo, tit-for-tat mentality that has gotten us into an immense amount of trouble already. I can very well respect a person who does not respect me. I am sure you can

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

2019-12-05 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Mark, “THE dictionary”? As if there is one truth that supersedes all others? Not very Open Space-like imho. It hurts me to see a quote being called ridiculous, especially if that quote has been said with an ideal, a true passion in mind. So I went looking for the meaning behind that

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

2019-12-05 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
It depends on your definition of success. If you define success as earning a lot of money and using that money to deplete a large part of the earth’s resources, then I can agree with the statement that we don’t need that. If you define success as having a large surviving offspring (and

Re: [OSList] Video?

2019-10-15 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Generally, it is considered good internet practice to not send large files to a mailing list, but a link.I am also very curious, so I hope the uploading works.Met vriendelijke groet,Koos de Heer Oorspronkelijk bericht Van: Jeff Aitken via OSList Datum: 15-10-19 21:46

Re: [OSList] The Triumph of Truth Over Error...Chime in if that's OKAY with YOU? What do you say we raise some SERIOUS money OFFICIALLY training and certifying ALL the GOOD SPIRITS among us mortals to

2019-08-01 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
No thanks. I suggest you scan the archive of this list at http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/ to find out why. There are over 1,000 matches on “certified” or “certification.” No use repeating

Re: [OSList] A linguistic question for a Korean friend

2017-12-10 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Doris! Our great friend Access Queen Lisa Heft has compiled an international  glossary of Open Space terms and phrases.  It is not where it used to be on the net - a few years ago Lisa had some problems with her website and she had to take down some pages including this one. I have not seen

Re: [OSList] VB: Short report back - 2, 5 hours meeting (x-posted Genuine Contact list)

2017-12-06 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
To me it looks like the outline of a creative process. Divergence, Place of Difficulty, Convergence.  The phase is the middle (difficulty, trouble or however you want to name it) is sometimes omitted (just divergence and convergence) but it is very important to recognize it and to practice

Re: [OSList] Brett Wood Podcast

2017-05-03 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
ME 04843 207 763-3261 Websites www.openspaceworld.com <http://www.openspaceworld.com> www.ho-image.com <http://www.ho-image.com> From: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] On Behalf Of Koos de Heer via OSList Sent: Tuesday, May 2, 2017 3:25 PM To: 'Michael

Re: [OSList] Brett Wood Podcast

2017-05-02 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Great testimony indeed Michael. Thanks for sharing! Koos Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Michael Wood via OSList Verzonden: dinsdag 2 mei 2017 06:20 Aan: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org Onderwerp: [OSList] Brett Wood Podcast Lovely testimony here to

Re: [OSList] Twist

2017-02-14 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
There is more than just this one twist (which is already more than just a “twist”). Also: -Grouping of topics by the facilitator -Urging the conveners to have lots of passion (wonder why that would be necessary at all – could it be because of the “twists”?) -One

Re: [OSList] Accessibility concerns about bending down to pick up paper/pens

2016-08-19 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
As far as I can remember, it has never been a problem. Surely folks have complained, but I am with Harrison on this one: the ones to complain in my experience were not the ones with serious disabilities, merely people suffering from indignation: “Are you really asking ME to bend down to the

Re: [OSList] Open Space voices

2016-06-09 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Thank you Brendan! So great to see these. People I love, in the summary there is even a short appearance of the late father Brian Bainbridge – indeed fond memories. And certainly good material for training purposes. Thanks for sharing! Koos Van: OSList

Re: [OSList] OST for big changes in company

2016-06-04 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Karolina, If you have been supporting this company for a while, I assume you are in a position to ask questions about their change strategy – maybe you are even helping them design their change strategy. If I would be in a position to discuss this with them, I think I would ask some more

Re: [OSList] The Question

2016-02-01 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
here are a few things that make up the essence of Open Space* and if > you take those away, you can of course go ahead and have fun with your > meeting, but don't call it Open Space. > > > > > On 1/31/16 2:54 PM, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: >> >> Yes, wha

Re: [OSList] The Question

2016-01-31 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Yes, what Michael Herman said. And: there are gatherings I have seen and other gatherings that people have talked to me about, that were called Open Space but did not open the space very much. Because there was no Law of Two Feet, and/or because there was a preset agenda, that kind of

Re: [OSList] lecturing on OST???

2016-01-21 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Raffi, Problem is that I find it very hard to convey the nature of Open Space through a lecture. Do you think you could talk with your friend about her own worries and fears about just doing Open Space? So far, the past 30 years have shown that Open Space works with all kinds of people and

Re: [OSList] Subject: Clothing Optional Open Space

2016-01-21 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
I have never done this, but I am familiar with the clothing optional world an I am sure Open Space will work very well. Koos > Op 21 jan. 2016 om 14:01 heeft Chris Grady via OSList > het volgende geschreven: > > Has anyone explored Open Space in a clothing

Re: [OSList] Interesting Space Experiment

2016-01-21 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
I almost always use Helium balloons. It makes defining the break out spaces very easy and flexible. Especially when you keep the whole system in one room, which I love to do. I use a large version of the balloon (70 cm or 28" diameter when filled) and every balloon has a letter suspended from

Re: [OSList] florian fischer has passed away

2015-10-30 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Thank you Peggy for reminding me. I was there too in Berlin in 2000 and at the Swenmark gathering in 2003. I remember Florian as a very gentle and at the same time very dedicated person. And also very creative. He could challenge my assumptions in a way that was very inspiring and at the same

Re: [OSList] is OS apropriate to fill a structure

2015-08-07 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Dear Hege, Filling the complete agenda beforehand is not something I would do in Open Space. I do allow people to prepare topics beforehand if they want to, but then these conveners have to put their topic on the marketplace with all the others. For me, the power of Open Space is in the

Re: [OSList] 30 Years ... and Counting!

2015-06-26 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Thank you Harrison, you continue to amaze and inspire me – and I know many others with me. Your constant reminders that many of us are still working too hard make me wonder sometimes. Are you not working too hard reminding us not to work too hard? After all, our working, whether too hard or not,

Re: [OSList] Change of OSList moderation policy

2015-06-25 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Harold Thank you for all the TLC you put into this! Koos Op 25 jun. 2015 om 16:34 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven: Dear OSList Members, If you (or anyone) sends an email to the OSList from an email address that is not

Re: [OSList] NOSonOS

2015-06-11 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Thomas Have fun out there! It must be a great time of year to visit Iceland now. I imagine the country to be one big open space :-) Koos -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: OSList [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas Herrmann via OSList Verzonden: donderdag 11

Re: [OSList] How big is a circle with 300 people?

2015-06-08 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
the following link you get to the pretty fantastic photo story by Erich Kolenaty where you can click on a pdf file which I am afraid is too bulky to attach to this mail http://www.transformation.at/article46.htm 08.06.2015 06:05, Koos de Heer via OSList wrote: Thanks Harrison. In my

Re: [OSList] How big is a circle with 300 people?

2015-06-07 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Thanks Harrison. In my experience, two meters is fine to pass behind the rows on your way to the agenda wall, but it is not enough when you have 300 people in front of the agenda wall trying to figure out where they want to go. You don’t want people tripping over the empty chairs that are

Re: [OSList] Archives ready for search

2015-03-24 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Harold, You are truly awesome. Thank you so much for all the work you put into this. And for keeping us informed all the time. I am sending you a virtual thank you hug. Koos Op 24 mrt. 2015 om 05:55 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org het volgende geschreven:

Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

2014-12-14 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
I have done so many that I have lost count. I always dream of going back in all my calendars and do a count. So far, haven't gotten around to it. Happy lurking! Met vriendelijke groet, Koos de Heer Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgschreef: Hmmm, the the Lurker Game

Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

2014-12-14 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
I have done so many that I have lost count. I always dream of going back in all my calendars and do a count. So far, haven't gotten around to it. Happy lurking! Met vriendelijke groet, Koos de Heer Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgschreef: Hmmm, the the Lurker Game

Re: [OSList] Who has facilitated at least 7 OST events?

2014-12-14 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
I have done so many that I have lost count. I always dream of going back in all my calendars and do a count. So far, haven't gotten around to it. Happy lurking! Met vriendelijke groet, Koos de Heer Daniel Mezick via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.orgschreef: Hmmm, the the Lurker Game

Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

2014-12-11 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Dan, Thanks for the invitation. I have grown from lurker to frequent contributer and back to lurker again. I have done many Open Space events and for a few years I have been trying to co-ordinate a bit of community here in the Netherlands. So I consider myself knowledgeable enough to

Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

2014-12-11 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Dan, Thanks for the invitation. I have grown from lurker to frequent contributer and back to lurker again. I have done many Open Space events and for a few years I have been trying to co-ordinate a bit of community here in the Netherlands. So I consider myself knowledgeable enough to

Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

2014-12-11 Thread Koos de Heer via OSList
Hi Dan, Thanks for the invitation. I have grown from lurker to frequent contributer and back to lurker again. I have done many Open Space events and for a few years I have been trying to co-ordinate a bit of community here in the Netherlands. So I consider myself knowledgeable enough to