Thank you for the clarification and excellent information Glenn and John. I sincerely appreciate it and wish you and all concerned the very BEST! MC
On Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 2:52 PM <oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > Send OSList mailing list submissions to > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > oslist-requ...@lists.openspacetech.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > oslist-ow...@lists.openspacetech.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of OSList digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi comment > (Mark Carmel) > 2. Re: Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi > comment (Glenn Waters) > 3. Re: Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi > comment (john watkins) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 09:56:20 -0700 > From: Mark Carmel <markacar...@gmail.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi > comment > Message-ID: > < > cafdvdfg7qcldxvewbe4d5-mfox2pq0npbt2fbqj6tw5-5aq...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I have tried my best to bite my lip Regarding the dude's comment that all > of the truckers must be white supremest nazi types ... What a ridiculous > belief... that's being fed by the fake news that paints every Person > protesting for Freedom as a white supremest. Yeah, Total BS.... We are > open space technology facilitators we believe in freedom ... right? Or have > I misunderstood something? And what did Canada decide to do? They decided > to go and seize the bank accounts and the crypto wallets of the > protesters.. Now what sounds more like nazi tactics, protesting for > freedom or seizing people's bank accounts without a trial? > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20220218/84c4d927/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 13:03:35 -0500 > From: "Glenn Waters" <gl...@watrs.ca> > To: oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > Subject: Re: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to > nazi comment > Message-ID: <e05f4c61-39e8-44e5-8fe8-043fc5f98...@www.fastmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Enough of the nazi crap, please. I can't answer if you've misunderstood > something but let me share some facts about what is going on. > > In general this is a peaceful group of people. There are however a number > of people attending that are not peaceful. They harass, assault (physically > and verbally), and torment people who live in this area. > > A large portion of the downtown is closed because it has been taken over. > This is having real affect on those businesses that are already hanging on > by their fingernails to stay in business. > > For the residents living in this area the only two nearby grocery stores > have closed because they fear for the safety of their staff. Many other > stores and restaurants are closed for safety reasons. > > Nazi flags have been flown, as have other symbols that are commonly > associated with hate and supremacy. > > Well documented leaders of white supremacists groups are attending. This > does appear to be the minority, but I don't have data. Some have been > arrested in the last few days. > > Shifting to opinion. > > I don't think of what is happening a few kilometres from my home as a > protest anymore. It is an occupation that is taking away from the freedoms > of those who choose to live and work in Ottawa. > > The occupiers assets are not being seized. They are being frozen. As this > is an occupation I am perfectly fine that. > > The occupiers are incoherent. When asked about their demands it ranges > from "Freedom." to "We want to take over the government." There is little > substantiation behind any of the remarks. Most engagements with the > occupiers does not result in any understanding of what they actually want. > My understanding is that the original premise of the protests was around > don't force us to be vaccinated, wear masks, or have to have/show a vaccine > passport. > > I say go ahead and protest. That is your right and I believe in and > support those rights. Occupation is not on. > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022, at 11:56, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote: > > I have tried my best to bite my lip Regarding the dude's comment that > all of the truckers must be white supremest nazi types ... What a > ridiculous belief... that's being fed by the fake news that paints every > Person protesting for Freedom as a white supremest. Yeah, Total BS.... We > are open space technology facilitators we believe in freedom ... right? Or > have I misunderstood something? And what did Canada decide to do? They > decided to go and seize the bank accounts and the crypto wallets of the > protesters.. Now what sounds more like nazi tactics, protesting for > freedom or seizing people's bank accounts without a trial? > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20220218/571ae0fc/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 12:07:01 -0800 > From: john watkins <johnw...@mac.com> > To: World wide Open Space Technology email list > <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > Subject: Re: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to > nazi comment > Message-ID: <fd72da66-53c5-4f76-88eb-4c3ade2bf...@mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Glen has the facts right. > The flags include the Confederate battle flag. > And it might be noted that 55% of the funding for this occupation is > coming from right wing Christian groups in the US. > And that the national truckers association in Canada has said it does not > represent Canadian truckers. > And the vaccination rate among Canadian truckers is between 83% and 90%. > > John Watkins > > > On Feb 18, 2022, at 10:03 AM, Glenn Waters via OSList < > oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> wrote: > > > > Enough of the nazi crap, please. I can't answer if you've misunderstood > something but let me share some facts about what is going on. > > > > In general this is a peaceful group of people. There are however a > number of people attending that are not peaceful. They harass, assault > (physically and verbally), and torment people who live in this area. > > > > A large portion of the downtown is closed because it has been taken > over. This is having real affect on those businesses that are already > hanging on by their fingernails to stay in business. > > > > For the residents living in this area the only two nearby grocery stores > have closed because they fear for the safety of their staff. Many other > stores and restaurants are closed for safety reasons. > > > > Nazi flags have been flown, as have other symbols that are commonly > associated with hate and supremacy. > > > > Well documented leaders of white supremacists groups are attending. This > does appear to be the minority, but I don't have data. Some have been > arrested in the last few days. > > > > Shifting to opinion. > > > > I don't think of what is happening a few kilometres from my home as a > protest anymore. It is an occupation that is taking away from the freedoms > of those who choose to live and work in Ottawa. > > > > The occupiers assets are not being seized. They are being frozen. As > this is an occupation I am perfectly fine that. > > > > The occupiers are incoherent. When asked about their demands it ranges > from "Freedom." to "We want to take over the government." There is little > substantiation behind any of the remarks. Most engagements with the > occupiers does not result in any understanding of what they actually want. > My understanding is that the original premise of the protests was around > don't force us to be vaccinated, wear masks, or have to have/show a vaccine > passport. > > > > I say go ahead and protest. That is your right and I believe in and > support those rights. Occupation is not on. > > > > On Fri, Feb 18, 2022, at 11:56, Mark Carmel via OSList wrote: > >> I have tried my best to bite my lip Regarding the dude's comment that > all of the truckers must be white supremest nazi types ... What a > ridiculous belief... that's being fed by the fake news that paints every > Person protesting for Freedom as a white supremest. Yeah, Total BS.... We > are open space technology facilitators we believe in freedom ... right? Or > have I misunderstood something? And what did Canada decide to do? They > decided to go and seize the bank accounts and the crypto wallets of the > protesters.. Now what sounds more like nazi tactics, protesting for > freedom or seizing people's bank accounts without a trial? > >> _______________________________________________ > >> OSList mailing list > >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto: > OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > >> To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > >> Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org < > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > OSList mailing list > > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org <mailto: > OSList@lists.openspacetech.org> > > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > <mailto:oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org> > > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org> > > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org < > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openspacetech.org/pipermail/oslist-openspacetech.org/attachments/20220218/fca44d50/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > Past archives can be viewed here: > http://www.mail-archive.com/oslist@lists.openspacetech.org > > ------------------------------ > > End of OSList Digest, Vol 130, Issue 7 > ************************************** >
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