Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Mark and Koos…. Two old dear friends! And I know that if you ever met face-to-face you would really enjoy each other. Of course you come from different worlds and meeting might mean spending some time in Pueblo Colorado (just about all mountains) or the other way … with just about no mountains.

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Mark, I have to disagree with you here on three points: “Respect is a two way street.” No it is not. This is the quid-pro-quo, tit-for-tat mentality that has gotten us into an immense amount of trouble already. I can very well respect a person who does not respect me. I am sure you can

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Koos, I said the quote is ridiculous, not that any person is. See how simply words and their meaning can be misconstrued? I agree with you on respect. Respect is a two way street. The quote disrespects successful people and the need for more of them. That is antithetical to our beloved OST. For

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Mark, “THE dictionary”? As if there is one truth that supersedes all others? Not very Open Space-like imho. It hurts me to see a quote being called ridiculous, especially if that quote has been said with an ideal, a true passion in mind. So I went looking for the meaning behind that

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Loving words, and knowing that people write and revise dictionaries, I tried a few dictionaries online. Here's what the Cambridge Dictionary says: achieving desired

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Koos, Do you remember this quote? "It Depends on what the definition of is, is" - a quote from President Bill Clinton during his impeachment On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 AM Koos de Heer wrote: > It depends on your definition of success. > > > > If you define success as earning a lot of money

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

Koos, That IS why we have dictionaries my friend. Operational definitions are KEY in human understanding. The definition of success I provided is in the dictionary. Thanks for your feedback. MC On Thu, Dec 5, 2019, 9:20 AM Koos de Heer wrote: > It depends on your definition of success. > >

Re: [OSList] Ridiculous quote from David Orr ..."The plain fact is that the planet does not need more successful people"

It depends on your definition of success. If you define success as earning a lot of money and using that money to deplete a large part of the earth’s resources, then I can agree with the statement that we don’t need that. If you define success as having a large surviving offspring (and