Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-28 Thread BJ Peters
Harrison-- Thank you for this. It speaks to me more than anything I've read in the past two weeks, because it helps me get in touch with my ability to hold all perspectives in my mind and heart at the same time - at least for a few moments. . . Namasté --BJ BJ Peters Darkness cannot drive out

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-25 Thread Barry Owen
Chris, Firstly, I must apologize for posting and running (a new daughter limits my time at the computer) . . . There are soldiers and there are Warriors - even BOTH in the armed forces of the US and the world. You Said: He is the only soldier I know well, and the only one that was in a branch

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-25 Thread Chris Corrigan
Hi Barry: Nice to see you on here. Thanks for your reply. I have only a couple of small points in my own defense. Barry Owen wrote: I believe your context is Tremendously skewed. I served in the US Army 12 years. I know MORE people who served with me who I consider to be WARRIORS than

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-25 Thread Barry Owen
://www.geocities.com/athens/oracle/9215 Original Message Follows From: Chris Corrigan <cor...@interchange.ubc.ca> Reply-To: OSLIST <osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu> To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Subject: Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way Date:

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-25 Thread Toni Petrinovich
- Original Message - From: Chris Corrigan cor...@interchange.ubc.ca To: osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 7:27 AM Subject: Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way Hi Barry: Nice to see you on here. Thanks for your reply. I have only

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-25 Thread Julie Smith
Thanks for your comments, Harrison. I have also experienced this as a genuine (and friendly) open space. Harrison wrote: As for the correction (addition) -- I would have to take some issue with the notion that discord has put in it ugly appearance here on this LIST. Perhaps it will, 'cause

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-25 Thread J. Paul Everett
In a message dated 9/25/01 5:56:37 AM, homs...@hotmail.com writes: I believe your context is Tremendously skewed. I served in the US Army 12 years. I know MORE people who served with me who I consider to be WARRIORS than SOLDIERS (as you define the words). Most of the people I know who fit the

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread FamilyFirm
In a message dated 9/23/01 10:11:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, owe...@mindspring.com writes: The Way of the Warrior. Amen, Harrison Joe Paul * * == osl...@listserv.boisestate.edu -- To subscribe, unsubscribe,

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
At 09:24 PM 9/23/01 -0400, you wrote: With regard to your post, mebbie so... and on the other hand mebbie not. For instance, it is not obvious to me that Arrien speaks about the Way of the Warrior in the same way you are doing here - at least not in the piece below (ref. my underlined

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Winston Kinch
Dear Harrison: Thank you for your thoughtful response. It is well that we do not all feel we have to stand in the same place. As a Warrior, I choose to stand with non-violence. I honour and respect your point of view. I just like Aine's answer better... Shalom Winston

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Michael Herman
Harrison Owen wrote: At 09:24 PM 9/23/01 -0400, you wrote: The capacity to take a stand, regardless of consequences -- I mean really take a stand is core for me. But I think it is important to note that The Way of the Warrior in not only found in the military -- although the military

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Harrison-- I agree with you that sometimes the Warrior is needed. I think we need to help ensure that the voice of the Way of the Warrior is present among the many voices calling for war. And to hold space for the Ways of Healing, Vision and Teaching are heard as well. I believe that going to

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Julie Smith
Greetings all, Harrison, you quoted Winston (in bold) and then wrote: As for the writer of Ecclesiastes, good on him/her; but as we all know one can find support for anything in the bible, including in the old testament some of the worst terrorist acts perpetrated on mankind (viz: the

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread (David Koehler)
In a message dated 9/24/01 12:07:47 PM Central Daylight Time, mher...@globalchicago.net writes: . i think i watched the planes and buildings come down on tuesday and didn't *really* dismay until i heard cnn and others label the whole thing attack on america... attack seems to demand

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Joelle Lyons Everett
Thanks, Michael, for your thoughtful words. I'm reminded of a true story. I have a friend, Joel Levey, whose grandfather was a rabbi and who himself practices Tibetan Buddhism. Once, he and his wife were invited to teach their course, The Ultimate Warrior, for a cadre of Green Berets in

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Michael Herman
dave, i think the quote below could be a little out of context. or at least i do not understand your comment in relation to it. i am in total agreement with what you are saying in your comment. the importance of words is what i was getting at... so am now wanting to understand if you are

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread (David Koehler)
michael: To underscore and in aggrement. Dave

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-24 Thread Chris Corrigan
I was holding back on this thread a little, but I think something has coalesced in my head enough to be able to wade in... I know a man who is a fire fighter here in a city near Vancouver. He is a former Marine. He spent several years in the US Marines stationed in places like Okinawa and

The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-23 Thread Harrison Owen
As we begin to deal with the changed realities of our world, it is natural that we see the new world from our own perspective. For this group, the vast majority of us, I suspect, come from traditions of human service, pacificism and the like. And God knows we need a strong dose of all of the

Re: The Way of the Warrior: Holding Space for The Fourfold Way

2001-09-23 Thread Winston Kinch
Hallo Harrison. With regard to your post, mebbie so... and on the other hand mebbie not. For instance, it is not obvious to me that Arrien speaks about the Way of the Warrior in the same way you are doing here - at least not in the piece below (ref. my underlined italics). As for the writer of