Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Thomas Herrmann
sounds like it'll be in Poland which I think is great. Anyway to my knowledge we (or the ones present at site) used to choose from the available offers presented there (on site). So those present were considered making a decision on the behalf of all of us not present on site. So if there was

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi Thomas and all It was reported to us that there had been offers to host the WOSONOS15 in Mexico, Spain and China. However, no details were available in Belgrade despite the organiser (Jasmina) seeking such in advance of WOSONOS14. On that basis, the only offer really on the table was

[OSList] Fifth Principle: Alive and Well in Serbia

2014-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
I don't know why it took us so long to discover the 5th Principle (Wherever it happens is the right place) - And for sure the gathering in Belgrade would have put that Principle Front and Center. Definitely the RIGHT place! Deep questions (the best part for me) - genuine pleasure, connection, and

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread openspacedk1
Dear Thomas, Could not agree more. I believe our tradition to trust the community present by the end of any WOSONOS to decide, is a good and prescious one. And in line with the notion passion and responsability I thank our Polish collegues for their invitation, and look forward to a great

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Lisa Heft -
So beautifully said, dear Gerard. Since we can communicate with each other to have someone else embody our invitation even if we cannot attend a WOSonOS, to me that is both inclusion and opportunity. There is much outreach and support for this both that you can see dear OSLIST and that you

[OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
congrats to the team from Poland! any chance vegan zapiekanki made with artisanal baguettes and forest mushrooms will be on the menu??? : ) laramtsa, raffi co-organizer of 2006 WOSonOS Moscow ** I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, up to my chin in hypocrisy,

Re: [OSList] largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Sullens
It happened on another list . Seems like e-mail providers are getting touchy. That being said, woos generated a lot of great traffics. I appreciate the great sharing of the experience with those who could not attend. Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Harold Shinsato

[OSList] Fwd: largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear List , forwarding my response of yesterday to Raffi inquiring about largest os-events. Started wondering what Michael Pronin will do with this information... I vividly remember his breakout session at the WOSonOS in Moscow on Management by Vodka (or something close to that)... it would

[OSList] largest ost

2014-09-24 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
thanks, folks, for your responses. and, of course, florian i love your answer : ) laramtsa, raffi ** I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, up to my chin in hypocrisy, double standards, a sense of entitlement, and choking on overconsumption, blissfully in denial

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Scott Gassman
Thank you Harold for your time,support and conscientiousness. Scott Gassman On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Koos de Heer
Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread karolina iwa via OSList
thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. karolina iwa creativity self-organisation blog I twitter I linkedin D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014,

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harold Shinsato
Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina, I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. As long as people have good text in their from field, it should make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we won't be able to search via

RE: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
Harold, You are a Saint! I can't thank you enough for being there - wherever there is these days. Harrison Ps - love Raffi as I do - Quarantine may be in order. Not quite Ebola, but certainly having a similar effect on poor old OSLIST. Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac,

Re: [OSList] largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList
Thanks to all for this wonderful conversation. An especially big thanks to you, Harold, for wrangling the technical difficulties and for reminding me/us that this video is still online. Hard to believe that when we made it in 2005, 15 minutes was the standard for length. These days, it’s

[OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harold Shinsato
I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Thomas Herrmann
sounds like it'll be in Poland which I think is great. Anyway to my knowledge we (or the ones present at site) used to choose from the available offers presented there (on site). So those present were considered making a decision on the behalf of all of us not present on site. So if there was

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi Thomas and all It was reported to us that there had been offers to host the WOSONOS15 in Mexico, Spain and China. However, no details were available in Belgrade despite the organiser (Jasmina) seeking such in advance of WOSONOS14. On that basis, the only offer really on the table was

[OSList] Fifth Principle: Alive and Well in Serbia

2014-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
I don't know why it took us so long to discover the 5th Principle (Wherever it happens is the right place) - And for sure the gathering in Belgrade would have put that Principle Front and Center. Definitely the RIGHT place! Deep questions (the best part for me) - genuine pleasure, connection, and

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread openspacedk1
Dear Thomas, Could not agree more. I believe our tradition to trust the community present by the end of any WOSONOS to decide, is a good and prescious one. And in line with the notion passion and responsability I thank our Polish collegues for their invitation, and look forward to a great

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Lisa Heft -
So beautifully said, dear Gerard. Since we can communicate with each other to have someone else embody our invitation even if we cannot attend a WOSonOS, to me that is both inclusion and opportunity. There is much outreach and support for this both that you can see dear OSLIST and that you

[OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
congrats to the team from Poland! any chance vegan zapiekanki made with artisanal baguettes and forest mushrooms will be on the menu??? : ) laramtsa, raffi co-organizer of 2006 WOSonOS Moscow ** I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, up to my chin in hypocrisy,

Re: [OSList] largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Sullens
It happened on another list . Seems like e-mail providers are getting touchy. That being said, woos generated a lot of great traffics. I appreciate the great sharing of the experience with those who could not attend. Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Harold Shinsato

[OSList] Fwd: largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear List , forwarding my response of yesterday to Raffi inquiring about largest os-events. Started wondering what Michael Pronin will do with this information... I vividly remember his breakout session at the WOSonOS in Moscow on Management by Vodka (or something close to that)... it would

[OSList] largest ost

2014-09-24 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
thanks, folks, for your responses. and, of course, florian i love your answer : ) laramtsa, raffi ** I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, up to my chin in hypocrisy, double standards, a sense of entitlement, and choking on overconsumption, blissfully in denial

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Scott Gassman
Thank you Harold for your time,support and conscientiousness. Scott Gassman On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Koos de Heer
Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread karolina iwa via OSList
thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. karolina iwa creativity self-organisation blog I twitter I linkedin D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014,

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harold Shinsato
Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina, I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. As long as people have good text in their from field, it should make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we won't be able to search via

RE: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
Harold, You are a Saint! I can't thank you enough for being there - wherever there is these days. Harrison Ps - love Raffi as I do - Quarantine may be in order. Not quite Ebola, but certainly having a similar effect on poor old OSLIST. Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac,

Re: [OSList] largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList
Thanks to all for this wonderful conversation. An especially big thanks to you, Harold, for wrangling the technical difficulties and for reminding me/us that this video is still online. Hard to believe that when we made it in 2005, 15 minutes was the standard for length. These days, it’s

[OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harold Shinsato
I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Thomas Herrmann
sounds like it'll be in Poland which I think is great. Anyway to my knowledge we (or the ones present at site) used to choose from the available offers presented there (on site). So those present were considered making a decision on the behalf of all of us not present on site. So if there was

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Jon Harvey
Hi Thomas and all It was reported to us that there had been offers to host the WOSONOS15 in Mexico, Spain and China. However, no details were available in Belgrade despite the organiser (Jasmina) seeking such in advance of WOSONOS14. On that basis, the only offer really on the table was

[OSList] Fifth Principle: Alive and Well in Serbia

2014-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
I don't know why it took us so long to discover the 5th Principle (Wherever it happens is the right place) - And for sure the gathering in Belgrade would have put that Principle Front and Center. Definitely the RIGHT place! Deep questions (the best part for me) - genuine pleasure, connection, and

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread openspacedk1
Dear Thomas, Could not agree more. I believe our tradition to trust the community present by the end of any WOSONOS to decide, is a good and prescious one. And in line with the notion passion and responsability I thank our Polish collegues for their invitation, and look forward to a great

Re: [OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Lisa Heft -
So beautifully said, dear Gerard. Since we can communicate with each other to have someone else embody our invitation even if we cannot attend a WOSonOS, to me that is both inclusion and opportunity. There is much outreach and support for this both that you can see dear OSLIST and that you

[OSList] WOSonOS15

2014-09-24 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
congrats to the team from Poland! any chance vegan zapiekanki made with artisanal baguettes and forest mushrooms will be on the menu??? : ) laramtsa, raffi co-organizer of 2006 WOSonOS Moscow ** I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, up to my chin in hypocrisy,

Re: [OSList] largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Robert Sullens
It happened on another list . Seems like e-mail providers are getting touchy. That being said, woos generated a lot of great traffics. I appreciate the great sharing of the experience with those who could not attend. Sent from my iPad On Sep 23, 2014, at 11:50 AM, Harold Shinsato

[OSList] Fwd: largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Michael M Pannwitz
Dear List , forwarding my response of yesterday to Raffi inquiring about largest os-events. Started wondering what Michael Pronin will do with this information... I vividly remember his breakout session at the WOSonOS in Moscow on Management by Vodka (or something close to that)... it would

[OSList] largest ost

2014-09-24 Thread Raffi Aftandelian
thanks, folks, for your responses. and, of course, florian i love your answer : ) laramtsa, raffi ** I am the culturally White middle class American taxpayer, up to my chin in hypocrisy, double standards, a sense of entitlement, and choking on overconsumption, blissfully in denial

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Scott Gassman
Thank you Harold for your time,support and conscientiousness. Scott Gassman On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org wrote: I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Koos de Heer
Hi Harold, Thank you so much for all the work you are putting into this. In my inbox, the mail you sent was listed as coming from Harold Shinsato via OSList which I think is by all means acceptable. Koos Op 24 sep. 2014 om 22:06 heeft Harold Shinsato via OSList

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread karolina iwa via OSList
thank you harold for your time, patience and persistence. it is very appreciated! karolina. karolina iwa creativity self-organisation blog I twitter I linkedin D: +49 15774 932193 PL: +48 880 747578 On 24 Sep 2014,

Re: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harold Shinsato
Thanks Scott, Koos, and Karolina, I can see that the sender is listed as Harold Shinsato via OSList oslist@lists.openspacetech.org. As long as people have good text in their from field, it should make the sender clear in our inboxes and in the archives. But we won't be able to search via

RE: [OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harrison Owen
Harold, You are a Saint! I can't thank you enough for being there - wherever there is these days. Harrison Ps - love Raffi as I do - Quarantine may be in order. Not quite Ebola, but certainly having a similar effect on poor old OSLIST. Winter Address 7808 River Falls Drive Potomac,

Re: [OSList] largest ost?

2014-09-24 Thread Christine Whitney Sanchez via OSList
Thanks to all for this wonderful conversation. An especially big thanks to you, Harold, for wrangling the technical difficulties and for reminding me/us that this video is still online. Hard to believe that when we made it in 2005, 15 minutes was the standard for length. These days, it’s

[OSList] OSList bounces

2014-09-24 Thread Harold Shinsato
I'm not sure what's exactly triggering this issue from Raffi's emails, but it happened again. Yesterday 191 accounts were disabled when Raffi's email was bounced. They all seemed to be Google emails. I think I reinstated all those accounts. If you are getting this message - no need to do