Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

2014-12-10 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Daniel, Game on. I am a lurker and sometimes contributor to the OS Listserve. I am always fascinated by the conversation and learn tons. But since I am not a regular OST facilitator (though have led some open space meetings over time), I often feel I am not really qualified to contribute.

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

2015-01-04 Thread John Watkins via OSList
John, My experience is that open spaces (and open systems) are purpose-seeking systems, and getting clarity through emergence about purpose is probably one of the most important aspects of people opening space together. Purpose is dynamic and powerfully grounding in a sense of essence or the

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

2015-01-04 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Chris, I like your notions about boundaries. One of my teachers, Douglas Brooks, a Rajanaka Tantra philosopher/practitioner, says, Clear boundaries; no limits! In yoga that means we open with spaciousness, but then we define the boundaries of the body, muscle and bone, before engaging in

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

2015-01-28 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Just a simple thought here: I have almost never as a facilitator sorted or combined any kind of brainstormed list for participants. I find that they are really good at doing whatever sorting and combining is needed themselves, sometimes with a minor prompt, and sometimes with no prompting at

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

2015-01-28 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Chris, So it sounds to me as though you are saying something like the framing of purpose and the tying together of harvest (to build on what Jeff said) are what help all the micro conversations to contribute usefully to the necessary diversity of ways of thinking that create oblique views in

Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

2014-12-10 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Daniel, Game on. I am a lurker and sometimes contributor to the OS Listserve. I am always fascinated by the conversation and learn tons. But since I am not a regular OST facilitator (though have led some open space meetings over time), I often feel I am not really qualified to contribute.

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

2015-01-04 Thread John Watkins via OSList
John, My experience is that open spaces (and open systems) are purpose-seeking systems, and getting clarity through emergence about purpose is probably one of the most important aspects of people opening space together. Purpose is dynamic and powerfully grounding in a sense of essence or the

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

2015-01-04 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Chris, I like your notions about boundaries. One of my teachers, Douglas Brooks, a Rajanaka Tantra philosopher/practitioner, says, Clear boundaries; no limits! In yoga that means we open with spaciousness, but then we define the boundaries of the body, muscle and bone, before engaging in

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

2015-01-28 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Just a simple thought here: I have almost never as a facilitator sorted or combined any kind of brainstormed list for participants. I find that they are really good at doing whatever sorting and combining is needed themselves, sometimes with a minor prompt, and sometimes with no prompting at

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

2015-01-28 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Chris, So it sounds to me as though you are saying something like the framing of purpose and the tying together of harvest (to build on what Jeff said) are what help all the micro conversations to contribute usefully to the necessary diversity of ways of thinking that create oblique views in

Re: [OSList] Are You a frequent Lurker on OSLIST?

2014-12-10 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Daniel, Game on. I am a lurker and sometimes contributor to the OS Listserve. I am always fascinated by the conversation and learn tons. But since I am not a regular OST facilitator (though have led some open space meetings over time), I often feel I am not really qualified to contribute.

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

2015-01-04 Thread John Watkins via OSList
John, My experience is that open spaces (and open systems) are purpose-seeking systems, and getting clarity through emergence about purpose is probably one of the most important aspects of people opening space together. Purpose is dynamic and powerfully grounding in a sense of essence or the

Re: [OSList] First open space, advices needed :)

2015-01-04 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Chris, I like your notions about boundaries. One of my teachers, Douglas Brooks, a Rajanaka Tantra philosopher/practitioner, says, Clear boundaries; no limits! In yoga that means we open with spaciousness, but then we define the boundaries of the body, muscle and bone, before engaging in

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

2015-01-28 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Just a simple thought here: I have almost never as a facilitator sorted or combined any kind of brainstormed list for participants. I find that they are really good at doing whatever sorting and combining is needed themselves, sometimes with a minor prompt, and sometimes with no prompting at

Re: [OSList] Combining sessions - a slight change of title

2015-01-28 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Chris, So it sounds to me as though you are saying something like the framing of purpose and the tying together of harvest (to build on what Jeff said) are what help all the micro conversations to contribute usefully to the necessary diversity of ways of thinking that create oblique views in

Re: [OSList] Is there experience in developing Open Space further in organizations and networks after the initial intervention

2018-08-10 Thread john watkins via OSList
Peggy and Birgitt, Wow! I am really excited to see this in-depth analysis of the process of developing an open space organization. I’ve always felt that this was possible, but not seen specific examples, though most of the steps are familiar from work I have done with organizations, thanks to

Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

2018-07-10 Thread john watkins via OSList
All, I am finding this conversation just fascinating. I’ve been working on a project with some school superintendents to completely redesign the organizational systems within which what is being called “deeper learning” (engaging, meaningful, real world, academically challenging, that combines

Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

2018-07-10 Thread john watkins via OSList
Karl, Michael Fullan is one of my longest standing heroes in education. His recent works, with Joanne Quinn and Joanne McEachen, Coherence: The Right Drivers in Action for Schools, Districts, and Systems, and, Deep Learning: Engage the World, Change the World, are really wonderful, thorough,

Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

2018-07-10 Thread john watkins via OSList
Jeff, And I love that you have brought indigenous and first nations learning to the table. One of the districts we are working with is Cowichan, on Vancouver Island in BC. The district has made a commitment to re-engaging the first nations community in their efforts to redesign the school

Re: [OSList] Papers and writing about opening space

2018-07-10 Thread john watkins via OSList
Chris, I would be honored and delighted! I am traveling with family in New England this month, but once I am back in Oakland, I would love to connect and talk. And of course, once we are further into the project and back in BC, perhaps we could meet in person. John > On Jul 10, 2018, at

Re: [OSList] canadian tables

2018-12-04 Thread john watkins via OSList
Chris, How hedgemonic of you all! John > On Dec 4, 2018, at 7:28 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList > wrote: > > Another time working with Michael, we did an Open Space outdoors in the > middle of the village on my own little island, and lacking any sort of wall > at all, we pinned topics to a

Re: [OSList] Report From The Field

2019-01-09 Thread john watkins via OSList
As Dave Snowden says, in his Cynefin framework, in complex spaces, the leader’s role is to “probe, categorize, and respond (and practice is emergent);” whereas, in the chaotic space, the work is to “act, sense, and respond (and practice is always novel).” Probing can often be a “safe to fail

Re: [OSList] Ten Weeks in Open Space

2019-04-16 Thread john watkins via OSList
Harrison, Lovely! And I agree with you about the Missa Solemnis! John W. > On Apr 16, 2019, at 8:40 AM, Harrison Owen via OSList > wrote: > >For some odd reasons, I committed to “teaching” a course > which met once a week for 10 weeks. I think my hosts assumed I would do

Re: [OSList] On-line OST platforms

2020-03-12 Thread John Watkins via OSList
I’m also interested in this question. We’ve had to cancel an upcoming convening of school district senior leaders from around North America that was to be in large part an open space event. Now we’re considering if we can do it virtually using zoom. I’d love to hear ideas! Sent from John's

Re: [OSList] open space online

2020-04-05 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Which time zone is that 7:30 please? Sent from John's iPhone > On Apr 4, 2020, at 9:00 AM, Rolf Schneidereit via OSList > wrote: > > Hey Alexander, > > there will be a test of Qiqochat and Open Space next Monday, > see below > > Rolf > > > NEXT EXPERIMENT > We learned so much in this

Re: [OSList] Seminar from Sandra Janoff, January 2021

2020-11-12 Thread john watkins via OSList
Hi, Peggy and the OSList diaspora! I don’t weigh in much these days, but I always listen and learn from the conversation. I do want to weigh in here, though. I have known about and loved the whole system change work that Sandra and Marvin have done for ages! I helped design and facilitate a

Re: [OSList] Women in Agile Open Fri-Sat Oct 8-9

2021-10-07 Thread john watkins via OSList
Jeff, Is it this? The fox knows many things. The hedgehog knows one big thing. Isaiah Berlin, The Hedgehog and the Fox: An Essay on Tolstoy’s View of History (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1986). John > On Oct 6, 2021, at 10:06 PM, Jeff Aitken via OSList > wrote: > > Thanks Lucas. I see a

Re: [OSList] Where angels fear to tread

2021-11-18 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Jeff, In the educational equity world we call this “radical inclusion” and “design from the margins.” Glad to see it show up in your work too. And of course it reminds us of the classic Meg Wheatley quote about healing a system by getting it together with more of itself, especially the parts

Re: [OSList] Test...

2021-10-27 Thread john watkins via OSList
Jeff (and Chris), I love this work! We (the Deeper Learning Dozen , working with senior leaders in school districts across North America) see this process as deeply connected to our efforts to get school districts to engage meaningfully with their most

Re: [OSList] Test...

2021-10-27 Thread john watkins via OSList
on the question > "what are we going to do?" and closed with 2 days - "what have we done?" > Everybody came -- students, teachers, parents, cooks, janitors -- everybody. > > Harrison > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 2:54 PM john watkins via OSList > mailto:

Re: [OSList] Canada Connundrum... What do YOU Think?

2022-02-13 Thread John Watkins via OSList
The problem is that most of the folks “protesting” in Canada right now were in fact “sold on or bossed into accepting someone else's plans,” namely far right wing and conspiracy theory and dark money groups that are funding and cynically manipulating the truckers and others into participating

Re: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi comment

2022-02-18 Thread john watkins via OSList
Glen has the facts right. The flags include the Confederate battle flag. And it might be noted that 55% of the funding for this occupation is coming from right wing Christian groups in the US. And that the national truckers association in Canada has said it does not represent Canadian truckers.

Re: [OSList] Canada Conundrum - what do you think - reply to nazi comment

2022-02-19 Thread John Watkins via OSList
Thank-you, Chris, for your passion, your eloquence, and your facts. John W Sent from John's iPhone > On Feb 19, 2022, at 10:27 AM, Chris Corrigan via OSList > wrote: > >  > > Mark: > > I have mostly been ignoring your posts around this but I have to speak out > now. > > The leaders of

Re: [OSList] Who is BS-ing Whom?

2022-01-20 Thread John Watkins via OSList
I’m sorry but I do not think this kind of massive disinformation and political agenda belongs on this list. Sent from John's iPhone > On Jan 20, 2022, at 2:35 PM, Mark Carmel via OSList > wrote: > >  > These are not my thoughts or my words. I Do not know the author. But here > is food

Re: [OSList] Who is BS-ing Whom?

2022-01-21 Thread john watkins via OSList
Michael, and Mark, I appreciate your thoughtful and eloquent response and exploration of the nature of open space speech and the difference between that and something like holocaust denial speech. I think therein lies my concern. As I said to Mark, I spoke my concern in “I” statements, so as