Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Shraddha, node-SID is advertised by the router for the prefix that is directly attached to it. Protection for such local prefix does not mean much. thanks, Peter On 12/24/14 11:57 , Shraddha Hegde wrote: Authors, We have a “backup flag” in adjacency sid to indicate whether the label is

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Peter, If there is a service which has to use un-protected path and while building such a path if the node-sids Need to be used (one reason could be label stack compression) , then there has to be unprotected node-sid that this service can make use of. Prefix -sids could also be used to

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Shraddha, the problem is that the node that is advertising the node-sid can not advertise any data regarding the protection of such prefix, because the prefix is locally attached. thanks, Peter On 12/29/14 09:15 , Shraddha Hegde wrote: Peter, If there is a service which has to use

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Yes.You are right. Lets say a prefix sid has a flag p flag. If this is on it means build a path and provide protection. If this is off it means build a path with no protection. The receivers of the prefix-sid will build forwarding plane based on this flag. The applications building the paths

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Shraddha, I do not see how an originator can set any flag regarding the protection of the locally attached prefix. It's all the routers on the path towards such prefix that need to deal with the protection. Signaling anything from the originator seems useless. thanks, Peter On 12/29/14

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Peter, Pls see inline. Rgds Shraddha -Original Message- From: Peter Psenak [mailto:ppse...@cisco.com] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:02 PM To: Shraddha Hegde; draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensi...@tools.ietf.org; draft-ietf-isis-segment-routing-extensi...@tools.ietf.org Cc:

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Shraddha, I do not see how an originator of the node-sid can mandate a protection for the prefix on other routers. What if there is no backup available on a certain node along the path? The parallel with the B-flag in adj-sids is not right - in case of adj-sid the originator has the

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Peter, The requirement here is to get an un-protected path for services which do not want to divert the traffic on protected path in any case. So when the originator of node-sid signals un-protected path requirement, there is always an unprotected path. Regarding the protected path, it is the

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Rob Shakir
Peter, Shraddha, Primarily — I don’t think that use of the ‘B’ flag in the Adj-SID implies that there MUST be a backup route installed, it merely indicates that the Adj-SID MAY be subject to re-routing (and hence strict placement on an adjacency may not be honoured during link failures). For

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Rob, Pls see inline.. Rgds Shraddha -Original Message- From: Rob Shakir [mailto:r...@rob.sh] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:38 PM To: Peter Psenak; Shraddha Hegde Cc: draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensi...@tools.ietf.org;

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Rob Shakir
On 29 Dec 2014, at 09:33, Shraddha Hegde shrad...@juniper.net wrote: Shraddha It is likely that some application wants to use the node-sids when the strict path for performance sensitive traffic matches with that of the SPF for some segments or for the entire path. There is nothing

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Peter Psenak
Shraddha, On 12/29/14 10:06 , Shraddha Hegde wrote: Peter, The requirement here is to get an un-protected path for services which do not want to divert the traffic on protected path in any case. can you give an example of such a service and a reasoning why such service would want to avoid

Re: [OSPF] [Isis-wg] Mail regarding draft-ietf-ospf-segment-routing-extensions

2014-12-29 Thread Shraddha Hegde
Peter, The requirement here is to get an un-protected path for services which do not want to divert the traffic on protected path in any case. can you give an example of such a service and a reasoning why such service would want to avoid local protection along the path? Heavy bandwidth