Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

On Wed, Oct 04, 2023 at 04:41:31PM +0200, Robin Jarry via discuss wrote: > Hi Felix, > > Felix Huettner, Oct 04, 2023 at 09:24: > > Hi Robin, > > > > i'll try to answer what i can. > > > > On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 09:22:53AM +0200, Robin Jarry via discuss wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > Felix

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi Felix, Felix Huettner, Oct 04, 2023 at 09:24: > Hi Robin, > > i'll try to answer what i can. > > On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 09:22:53AM +0200, Robin Jarry via discuss wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > Felix Huettner, Oct 02, 2023 at 09:35: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > just want to add my experience

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi Robin, i'll try to answer what i can. On Tue, Oct 03, 2023 at 09:22:53AM +0200, Robin Jarry via discuss wrote: > Hi all, > > Felix Huettner, Oct 02, 2023 at 09:35: > > Hi everyone, > > > > just want to add my experience below > > On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 03:49:31PM -0700, Han Zhou wrote: > > >

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Frode Nordahl, Oct 02, 2023 at 10:05: > > I must admit I don't have enough field experience operating large > > network fabrics to state what issues multicast can cause with these. > > This is why I raised this in the cons list :) > > > > What specific issues did you have in mind? > > It has been

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi all, Felix Huettner, Oct 02, 2023 at 09:35: > Hi everyone, > > just want to add my experience below > On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 03:49:31PM -0700, Han Zhou wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 12:34 PM Robin Jarry wrote: > > > > > > Hi Han, > > > > > > Please see my comments/questions inline. > > >

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 3:50 PM Robin Jarry wrote: [ snip ] > > > Also, will such behavior be compatible with HW-offload-capable to > > > smartnics/DPUs? > > > > I am also a bit concerned about this, what would be the typical number > > of bridges supported by hardware? > > As far as I

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi everyone, just want to add my experience below On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 03:49:31PM -0700, Han Zhou wrote: > On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 12:34 PM Robin Jarry wrote: > > > > Hi Han, > > > > Please see my comments/questions inline. > > > > Han Zhou, Sep 30, 2023 at 21:59: > > > > Distributed mac

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 12:34 PM Robin Jarry wrote: > > Hi Han, > > Please see my comments/questions inline. > > Han Zhou, Sep 30, 2023 at 21:59: > > > Distributed mac learning > > > > > > > > > Use one OVS bridge per logical switch with mac learning enabled. Only > > >

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi Han, Please see my comments/questions inline. Han Zhou, Sep 30, 2023 at 21:59: > > Distributed mac learning > > > > > > Use one OVS bridge per logical switch with mac learning enabled. Only > > create the bridge if the logical switch has a port bound to the local > >

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

regards,Vladislav OdintsovOn 30 Sep 2023, at 23:24, Han Zhou wrote:On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:56 AM Vladislav Odintsov wrote: regards,> Vladislav Odintsov>> > On 30 Sep 2023, at 16:50, Robin Jarry wrote:> >> > Hi Vladislav, Frode,> >> > Thanks for your

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:56 AM Vladislav Odintsov wrote: > > > > regards, > Vladislav Odintsov > > > On 30 Sep 2023, at 16:50, Robin Jarry wrote: > > > > Hi Vladislav, Frode, > > > > Thanks for your replies. > > > > Frode Nordahl, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55: > >> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:43 AM

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 9:28 AM Robin Jarry wrote: > > Hello OVN community, > > This is a follow up on the message I have sent today [1]. That second > part focuses on some ideas I have to remove the limitations that were > mentioned in the previous email. > > [1]

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

regards, Vladislav Odintsov > On 30 Sep 2023, at 16:50, Robin Jarry wrote: > > Hi Vladislav, Frode, > > Thanks for your replies. > > Frode Nordahl, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55: >> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:43 AM Vladislav Odintsov via discuss >> wrote: On 29 Sep 2023, at 18:14, Robin Jarry

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi all, > On 30 Sep 2023, at 15:51, Robin Jarry via discuss > wrote: > > Hi Vladislav, Frode, > > Thanks for your replies. > > Frode Nordahl, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55: >> On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:43 AM Vladislav Odintsov via discuss >> wrote: On 29 Sep 2023, at 18:14, Robin Jarry via

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi Vladislav, Frode, Thanks for your replies. Frode Nordahl, Sep 30, 2023 at 10:55: > On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:43 AM Vladislav Odintsov via discuss > wrote: > > > On 29 Sep 2023, at 18:14, Robin Jarry via discuss > > > wrote: > > > > > > Felix Huettner, Sep 29, 2023 at 15:23: > > >>>

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Thanks alot for starting this discussion. On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 9:43 AM Vladislav Odintsov via discuss wrote: > > Hi Robin, > > Please, see inline. > > regards, > Vladislav Odintsov > > > On 29 Sep 2023, at 18:14, Robin Jarry via discuss > > wrote: > > > > Felix Huettner, Sep 29, 2023 at

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi Robin, Please, see inline. regards, Vladislav Odintsov > On 29 Sep 2023, at 18:14, Robin Jarry via discuss > wrote: > > Felix Huettner, Sep 29, 2023 at 15:23: >>> Distributed mac learning >>> > [snip] >>> >>> Cons: >>> >>> - How to manage seamless upgrades? >>>

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Felix Huettner, Sep 29, 2023 at 15:23: > > Distributed mac learning > > [snip] > > > > Cons: > > > > - How to manage seamless upgrades? > > - Requires ovn-controller to move/plug ports in the correct bridge. > > - Multiple openflow connections (one per managed bridge). > >

Re: [ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hi Robin and everyone, now onto mail number two :) I will try to just add some Pros and Cons for the Ideas and maybe some comments below that. On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 06:28:46PM +0200, Robin Jarry via discuss wrote: > Hello OVN community, > > This is a follow up on the message I have sent today

[ovs-discuss] OVN: scaling L2 networks beyond 10k chassis - proposals

Hello OVN community, This is a follow up on the message I have sent today [1]. That second part focuses on some ideas I have to remove the limitations that were mentioned in the previous email. [1] https://mail.openvswitch.org/pipermail/ovs-discuss/2023-September/052695.html If you didn't read