Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Martin Patzak (GMX)
Hello Attila,

what kind of USB master did you use?
I am using the LinkUSBi and it is working very stable for more than 3 
months on end (24/7).

I did post some settings I did to the raspi to make it more stable, and 
I can 'dig out' those old posts here, in case you can't find them.

However things might have been changed since updates of the raspi 
packages have been made and I do NOT upgrade, once I have found a stable 
platform (I am running my house heating system on it, so stability is key)

Cheers,

Martin


On 02/16/2013 08:52 AM, Attila wrote:
 Greetings,

 After several tries I found that my USB 1-wire master is not working
 reliable on Raspberry Pi - seems in some cases USB bus power is not
 enough (syslog tells this).
 Before going to use an externally powered USB hub, I tried to use GPIO
 bitbang method to drive 1-wire.
 I used w1 libary (w1-gpio and w1-therm), but found that OWFS cannot
 really work with it.
 I tried

 modprobe w1-gpio
 modprobe w1-therm
 owserver --w1 -p 4300
 owhtpd -s 4300 -p 80

 But when I try to connect via HTTP, RPi freezes, and I have to unplug it.
 Same if I use owfs instead of owhttpd, when I try to go to the mount point.

 In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts
 (/sys/bus/w1/devices) and read values without problem (But I have to
 say, one time it was frozen using this method as well)

 I upgraded kernel, packages, but no help.

 What can be wrong?


 Thanks,
 Attila


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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Vajk Fekete
Szia,

There were postings about the w1 kernel module being unstable. Not just on
RasPi.

Vajk

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Attila bigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings,

 After several tries I found that my USB 1-wire master is not working
 reliable on Raspberry Pi - seems in some cases USB bus power is not enough
 (syslog tells this).
 Before going to use an externally powered USB hub, I tried to use GPIO
 bitbang method to drive 1-wire.
 I used w1 libary (w1-gpio and w1-therm), but found that OWFS cannot really
 work with it.
 I tried

 modprobe w1-gpio
 modprobe w1-therm
 owserver --w1 -p 4300
 owhtpd -s 4300 -p 80

 But when I try to connect via HTTP, RPi freezes, and I have to unplug it.
 Same if I use owfs instead of owhttpd, when I try to go to the mount point.

 In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts 
 (/sys/bus/w1/devices)
 and read values without problem (But I have to say, one time it was
 frozen using this method as well)

 I upgraded kernel, packages, but no help.

 What can be wrong?


 Thanks,
 Attila


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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Attila
Martin,

thanks for your valuable comments. I agree not to upgrade anything once its
stable - I made a backup, so it was a kind of safe try... :)

And after raspi reboot - does it ALWAYS find the controller? My main
problem that mine is only sometimes, especially nowadays :( Syslog says it
has not enough power. While I'm using a 2A power supply. I need to play a
lot (unplug the bus, plug in USB, reboot, etc) to make it recognised /
work, and after a reboot I can start again...

I'm using USB9097 bought on pcsensor.com

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Martin Patzak (GMX)
martin.pat...@gmx.dewrote:

 Hello Attila,

 what kind of USB master did you use?
 I am using the LinkUSBi and it is working very stable for more than 3
 months on end (24/7).

 I did post some settings I did to the raspi to make it more stable, and
 I can 'dig out' those old posts here, in case you can't find them.

 However things might have been changed since updates of the raspi
 packages have been made and I do NOT upgrade, once I have found a stable
 platform (I am running my house heating system on it, so stability is key)

 Cheers,

 Martin


 On 02/16/2013 08:52 AM, Attila wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  After several tries I found that my USB 1-wire master is not working
  reliable on Raspberry Pi - seems in some cases USB bus power is not
  enough (syslog tells this).
  Before going to use an externally powered USB hub, I tried to use GPIO
  bitbang method to drive 1-wire.
  I used w1 libary (w1-gpio and w1-therm), but found that OWFS cannot
  really work with it.
  I tried
 
  modprobe w1-gpio
  modprobe w1-therm
  owserver --w1 -p 4300
  owhtpd -s 4300 -p 80
 
  But when I try to connect via HTTP, RPi freezes, and I have to unplug it.
  Same if I use owfs instead of owhttpd, when I try to go to the mount
 point.
 
  In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts
  (/sys/bus/w1/devices) and read values without problem (But I have to
  say, one time it was frozen using this method as well)
 
  I upgraded kernel, packages, but no help.
 
  What can be wrong?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Attila
 
 
 
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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Attila
Vajk,

thx for reminder, Now I remember - that time I did not know what is w1,
this is why I did not pay attention...

So I need to wait, or find a stable USB adapter...

Kosz!


On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Vajk Fekete vaj...@gmail.com wrote:

 Szia,

 There were postings about the w1 kernel module being unstable. Not just on
 RasPi.

 Vajk

 On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 8:52 AM, Attila bigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Greetings,

 After several tries I found that my USB 1-wire master is not working
 reliable on Raspberry Pi - seems in some cases USB bus power is not enough
 (syslog tells this).
 Before going to use an externally powered USB hub, I tried to use GPIO
 bitbang method to drive 1-wire.
 I used w1 libary (w1-gpio and w1-therm), but found that OWFS cannot
 really work with it.
 I tried

 modprobe w1-gpio
 modprobe w1-therm
 owserver --w1 -p 4300
 owhtpd -s 4300 -p 80

 But when I try to connect via HTTP, RPi freezes, and I have to unplug it.
 Same if I use owfs instead of owhttpd, when I try to go to the mount
 point.

 In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts 
 (/sys/bus/w1/devices)
 and read values without problem (But I have to say, one time it was
 frozen using this method as well)

 I upgraded kernel, packages, but no help.

 What can be wrong?


 Thanks,
 Attila


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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Attila
Oops, forgot to tell - I found your earlier comments, and seems you are
using a powered USB hub.
Does anyone know, if it is safe to power USB devices directly from the same
power supply I use to power the RasPi?

Eth0 - why you had to disable? I found a problem, when eth0 disconnect
(cable disconnect for example) stopped USB working, but after I disabled
the daemon (I cant recall its name, its reposnsible to alter networking
based on connect-disconnect events), it was resolved.
So now I have problem only on reboots.

On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Attila bigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Martin,

 thanks for your valuable comments. I agree not to upgrade anything once
 its stable - I made a backup, so it was a kind of safe try... :)

 And after raspi reboot - does it ALWAYS find the controller? My main
 problem that mine is only sometimes, especially nowadays :( Syslog says it
 has not enough power. While I'm using a 2A power supply. I need to play a
 lot (unplug the bus, plug in USB, reboot, etc) to make it recognised /
 work, and after a reboot I can start again...

 I'm using USB9097 bought on pcsensor.com


 On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Martin Patzak (GMX) martin.pat...@gmx.de
  wrote:

 Hello Attila,

 what kind of USB master did you use?
 I am using the LinkUSBi and it is working very stable for more than 3
 months on end (24/7).

 I did post some settings I did to the raspi to make it more stable, and
 I can 'dig out' those old posts here, in case you can't find them.

 However things might have been changed since updates of the raspi
 packages have been made and I do NOT upgrade, once I have found a stable
 platform (I am running my house heating system on it, so stability is key)

 Cheers,

 Martin


 On 02/16/2013 08:52 AM, Attila wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  After several tries I found that my USB 1-wire master is not working
  reliable on Raspberry Pi - seems in some cases USB bus power is not
  enough (syslog tells this).
  Before going to use an externally powered USB hub, I tried to use GPIO
  bitbang method to drive 1-wire.
  I used w1 libary (w1-gpio and w1-therm), but found that OWFS cannot
  really work with it.
  I tried
 
  modprobe w1-gpio
  modprobe w1-therm
  owserver --w1 -p 4300
  owhtpd -s 4300 -p 80
 
  But when I try to connect via HTTP, RPi freezes, and I have to unplug
 it.
  Same if I use owfs instead of owhttpd, when I try to go to the mount
 point.
 
  In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts
  (/sys/bus/w1/devices) and read values without problem (But I have to
  say, one time it was frozen using this method as well)
 
  I upgraded kernel, packages, but no help.
 
  What can be wrong?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Attila
 
 
 
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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Roberto Spadim
you should use the same ground of your power supply to provide power
to your powered usb hub, if you don't do this, you should consider
some problems at usb data +- that anyone here could check easly
without your hardware
other option could be a isolated power suply and isolate usb data +-,
in this case there's no problems about where's the usb hub power
supply

2013/2/16 Attila bigm...@gmail.com:
 Oops, forgot to tell - I found your earlier comments, and seems you are
 using a powered USB hub.
 Does anyone know, if it is safe to power USB devices directly from the same
 power supply I use to power the RasPi?

 Eth0 - why you had to disable? I found a problem, when eth0 disconnect
 (cable disconnect for example) stopped USB working, but after I disabled the
 daemon (I cant recall its name, its reposnsible to alter networking based on
 connect-disconnect events), it was resolved.
 So now I have problem only on reboots.


 On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 2:41 PM, Attila bigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 Martin,

 thanks for your valuable comments. I agree not to upgrade anything once
 its stable - I made a backup, so it was a kind of safe try... :)

 And after raspi reboot - does it ALWAYS find the controller? My main
 problem that mine is only sometimes, especially nowadays :( Syslog says it
 has not enough power. While I'm using a 2A power supply. I need to play a
 lot (unplug the bus, plug in USB, reboot, etc) to make it recognised / work,
 and after a reboot I can start again...

 I'm using USB9097 bought on pcsensor.com


 On Sat, Feb 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Martin Patzak (GMX)
 martin.pat...@gmx.de wrote:

 Hello Attila,

 what kind of USB master did you use?
 I am using the LinkUSBi and it is working very stable for more than 3
 months on end (24/7).

 I did post some settings I did to the raspi to make it more stable, and
 I can 'dig out' those old posts here, in case you can't find them.

 However things might have been changed since updates of the raspi
 packages have been made and I do NOT upgrade, once I have found a stable
 platform (I am running my house heating system on it, so stability is
 key)

 Cheers,

 Martin


 On 02/16/2013 08:52 AM, Attila wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  After several tries I found that my USB 1-wire master is not working
  reliable on Raspberry Pi - seems in some cases USB bus power is not
  enough (syslog tells this).
  Before going to use an externally powered USB hub, I tried to use GPIO
  bitbang method to drive 1-wire.
  I used w1 libary (w1-gpio and w1-therm), but found that OWFS cannot
  really work with it.
  I tried
 
  modprobe w1-gpio
  modprobe w1-therm
  owserver --w1 -p 4300
  owhtpd -s 4300 -p 80
 
  But when I try to connect via HTTP, RPi freezes, and I have to unplug
  it.
  Same if I use owfs instead of owhttpd, when I try to go to the mount
  point.
 
  In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts
  (/sys/bus/w1/devices) and read values without problem (But I have to
  say, one time it was frozen using this method as well)
 
  I upgraded kernel, packages, but no help.
 
  What can be wrong?
 
 
  Thanks,
  Attila
 
 
 
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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Sven Geggus
Attila bigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 In the same time I'm able to see the files what w1 mounts 
 (/sys/bus/w1/devices)

Unfortunately this is a Kernel Bug!

See my posting on this list keoaoc$nqs$1...@ultimate100.geggus.net for 
details.

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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread Sven Geggus
Attila bigm...@gmail.com wrote:

 So I need to wait, or find a stable USB adapter...

I would recomend using a DS2483, works best for me so far.

My schematic at http://home.geggus.net/pub/raspio.pdf includes an
additional IC for galvanic insulation.

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Re: [Owfs-developers] OWFS + W1 on Raspberry Pi

2013-02-16 Thread p4trykx
Hello

First of all make sure you have the latest kernel run
rpi-update(google how to install it). This is a big improvement in usb
functioning.
I looked at the site and it seems that your adapter is an DS2483 with
some usb serial adapter. This is not a good solution. I personally
does not have any experience with those but I've read people have
problems with usb serial adapters like FT232.

Second you could also try to force usb 1.1 this should help however
the LAN(it's also on USB bus) performance could be limited.
dwc_otg.speed=1
http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1886/what-kernel-parameters-are-available-for-fixing-usb-problems



I doubt it's a power problem. If your power supply is truly 2A. You
can check the voltage on the board TP1 TP2.
Which version of Raspi board do you have? The most recent ones have
usb polyfuses removed so there shouldn't be any significant voltage
drops with good power supply.
I run a power hungry 3G modem directly form little modified first
version of Raspi. 1 ohm resistors added over usb polyfuses and some
extra caps.Here is the thread with modifications
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63t=8591p=210186#p210186
I have a original power supply from RS Components.
I can even plug and unplug the modem and Raspi does not restart.
Raspi(v2) usb ports are directly connected to 5V rail so when you
connect some device which has ceramic capacitors inside(almost every
device) they start to charge. Those caps can charge very fast so for
fractions it's like a shot circuit. For more detail information you
can read the thread it's explained there why this works. Or ask here I
will try to explain it however I'm not an trained electronic engineer.


There where sucess reports of usb 1-wire adapters here but I can't
rememberer exactly which one it was. Perhaps the native DS2490.




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