RE: Developer apathy...

2010-03-19 Thread Michael Nemtsev
I would agree with the Greg. I reckon that we are a bit tired to see the same stuff last 10 years - there is nothing revolutionary new. Everything evolves in cycles with 10 years period J Looking back to 1994-96 I remember the same feeling and discussion when VS 6 been released - nothing new,

Re: Developer apathy...

2010-03-19 Thread Jeff Headley
(standing on soapbox) Innovation and "fun" change is now consumer driven, not enterprise driven. A lot of us re more interested in new gadgets than new software. First, the gadgets usually work when we get them so we can enjoy them right away. And then look how many people have jumped to the new m

RE: Developer apathy...

2010-03-19 Thread Greg Keogh
Perhaps the marketing for Visual Studio 2010 hasn't been targeted correctly, or isn't loudly enough. The last time I was excited about a software release is was (1) The upgrade from Windows 3.1 to 95 (2) The release of .NET Framework 2.0 (3) The arrival of LINQ. Since then every release of Windows,

Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: ASP.NET Web Forms vs MVC vs ...

2010-03-19 Thread Paul Glavich
Hey Paul & rest of list, Webforms was and is not bad. At it's conception it was revolutionary. If ASP. NET Mvc had come out first, it would have had less of a "known problem space" to learn from and prolly would not be as good as it is now. In fact, webforms will continue to play a huge par