[OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread Kirsten Greed
Hi All Not sure if this is OT or not, but is anyone using Specflow? I am wondering if the practice works in reality... www.specflow.org Thanks Kirsten

Re: [OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread Tristan Reeves
We've used it. In my experience you have to exercise a lot of discipline in order to keep the code-behind clean, especially when related scenarios start to get many in number. Tristan On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Kirsten Greed kirst...@jobtalk.com.au wrote: Hi All Not sure if this is OT

Re: [OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread Dave Walker
Yeah we are. Works alright but have big issues with some browsers being flakey. We use it in conjunction with a selenium grid that in theory you can have a heap of instances running on with all variants of browsers. You can also integrate it with online services e.g. https://saucelabs.com/ Good

Re: [OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread osjasonroberts
Hi Kirsten, it’s worth mentioning that you don’t need to use SpecFlow to do UI automation if you don’t need that business-readable representation of the tests/scenarios. If the test are just for the devs/automation testers then may be able to do without the additional layer. Also check out

Re: [OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread David Rhys Jones
Hi, I use specflow on a daily basis, with IE automation. Some tips: Start with the generic case and then add methods that use this generic case to make things easier. ex: When I am logged in as username with password password then I create steps for When I am logged in as a User When

Re: [OT] Thurday afternoon rant

2014-04-29 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
That piece of code looks so freaking ugly Greg. new XElement(dasdass,new XElement( ... )) .. w t f Why? Why can't we just have a nice clean way of dealing with XML like LINQ or even like Powershell? I agree with Preet. XML is a pain in the **. C'mon Microsoft. You build so many

Re: What's a million lines of code worth?

2014-04-29 Thread Corneliu I. Tusnea
Doesn't sound that bad. Just thinking how many sub-systems they have and how much redundancy is in each system it doesn't sound that much at all. Also think that they are not running any of-the-shelf OS which means that part of those 19M lines of code they also have the HAL and various drivers

Re: [OT] Thurday afternoon rant

2014-04-29 Thread Greg Keogh
That piece of code looks so freaking ugly Greg. new XElement(dasdass,new XElement( ... )) .. w t f Hi CIT, that was an ancient post, where have you been, in the bunker writing top secret code for the new fighters? I know you can't answer, or you'll have to kill us. That

Re: [OT] Thurday afternoon rant

2014-04-29 Thread Michael Ridland
There's also the xsd and XML serialisation so you can deal with clr objects entities. But just use json On Tuesday, April 29, 2014, Greg Keogh g...@mira.net wrote: That piece of code looks so freaking ugly Greg. new XElement(dasdass,new XElement( ... )) .. w t f Hi

Re: [OT] Thurday afternoon rant

2014-04-29 Thread David Rhys Jones
Could you serialize an ExpandoObject? Davy Davy, So you want to keep data which is local, only ever going to be local, only needed locally, never accessed remotely, not WANTED to be made available outside our building, which can only WEAKEN our security by being off site, hosted offsite. BOFH:

Re: [OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread piers.williams
Used it a bit on a previous project some years ago. I thought it actually worked pretty well actually, with some important caveats about use: Because the implementation for each line in the spec binds to a static method, state management between the lines in the tests is an issue. Ideally

RE: [OT] Specflow

2014-04-29 Thread Kirsten Greed
Thanks Jason I think I want the business readable stuff to be done first rather than reverse engineered or would it be the same thing in practice? From the website.. SpecFlow aims at bridging the communication gap between domain experts and developers by binding business readable behavior

Compiler smarts

2014-04-29 Thread Greg Keogh
We suffered a dreadful bug yesterday on only 1 or 6 servers running a WCF service in IIS. We got the The maximum string content length quota (8192) has been exceeded while reading XML data. I eventually found the problem thanks to the Visual Studio highlighted reference colouring. I put the cursor

Aggregate list of Microsoft events in Australia

2014-04-29 Thread David Burela
Hey all, I created a new Meetup group to try and aggregate the big events happening in Australia, such as Microsoft Training events, developer camps, etc. http://www.meetup.com/Microsoft-events-in-Australia/ I also wrote a quick blog post explaining some of my reasoning for creating it. Even