Here's the article.

https://www.afr.com/technology/commbank-claims-ai-is-already-making-it-work-30pc-better-20240206-p5f2uu

So what does everyone think about the claim that 30% efficiency? ie to me
as head of IT instead of hiring 10 developers to build applications now
only 7 is required. To me that just doesn't seem realistic.



On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 3:04 PM Tom Rutter via ozdotnet <
ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:

>
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2024 at 12:32, Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet <
> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>
>> Worse, in the baseball umpiring exam I mentioned, someone said to me
>> “isn’t that what you’d get if you just asked a whole lot of fans about the
>> rules rather than asking umpires?”
>>
>>
>>
>> There’s probably something important about that. How does it know which
>> of the material it was trained on is valid?
>>
>
> Yep that’s the thing, it doesn’t actually know what is “valid”. From what
> I understand it just gets “pushed” in certain directions during training
> and not in all cases obviously.
>
> My experience with things like ChatGPT so far basically brings it down to
> a better Google really. Early days
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
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>> *From:* mike smith via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 12:19 PM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Cc:* mike smith <meski...@gmail.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: AI
>>
>>
>>
>> "old system views"
>>
>>
>>
>> That makes me wonder if it has any way of differentiating between
>> something it found from a decade ago to more recent data.
>>
>>
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On Fri, 23 Feb 2024, 11:43 Dr Greg Low via ozdotnet, <
>> ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Tom,
>>
>>
>>
>> For me, it depends what you want it to do. It certainly can appear to
>> help someone who’s new to an area.
>>
>>
>>
>> For most code writing, I’ve been pretty underwhelmed. As an example, if I
>> ask it to write SQL, I get a very poor outcome. It will use old deprecated
>> views instead of the current system views (that have been around for a
>> decade), and often does things in a convoluted way.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I have been impressed with, is how it can help you understand
>> acronyms, etc. Quite amazing. I’ve also been pretty impressed with using it
>> go generate some test data, including in multiple languages. And the test
>> data is fairly believable. If I ask it for family names, and I also ask for
>> Chinese, it does pick common Chinese family names in the test output.
>> That’s pretty impressive.
>>
>>
>>
>> It can do a reasonable job of things like “here’s some DAX code, can you
>> simplify it?” It often can. Or “here’s a regular expression, can you
>> explain what it does?” and it does that just fine. I’ve seen people happily
>> using it to explain code that they don’t understand, or to (sort of)
>> document some code.
>>
>>
>>
>> But it also is so confident on things, yet so wrong. I gave it a 25
>> question baseball umpire test the other day. It was 100% confident
>> sounding, but 40% correct. The weird thing is that some of the questions
>> that it got right, are things that new human umpires often get wrong. Yet
>> for simpler questions, it would say that something legal is illegal.
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s certainly interesting, but it’s very much a work in progress. It
>> will be part of our futures.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>> *From:* Tom Gao via ozdotnet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 23, 2024 11:58 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet <ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com>
>> *Cc:* Tom Gao <t...@tomgao.com>
>> *Subject:* AI
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi guys, I haven't posted in a few years and haven't been on the tools
>> for a long time now as well. I'm on a panel on a digital conference coming
>> up in march. We had a pre meeting today and the topic of AI came up. Two of
>> the panelist said cited CBA and Westpac using AI and were able to save 30%
>> on development effort.
>>
>>
>>
>> Personally I just finished an AI course my view is quite the opposite. My
>> personal opinion of the generative AI space and AI in general having spent
>> time with the academics is that the benefits are significantly over
>> inflated.
>>
>>
>>
>> I want to get some other opinions if you are seeing any significant
>> benefit and that I may be just out of touch or not aware.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom
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