Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Greg Harris]

Some years ago, the HR dept wanted a new hire to provide his passport to
prove he had the right visa to work here.
He was OK as a contractor, but when we offered him a perm role, they wanted
more.
That was easy, he just brought in the passport and went up to see them.
I would scan the passport title page and the Oz visa page, share on dropbox
or whatever and send a text message with the link.
OT OT
Interesting that it was only one of my new hires they asked that of, but he
was the clearly overseas one.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 12:28 PM Craig vN  wrote:

> My wife yesterday had our insurance company randomly call asking to change
> details. Told them there is no way she is giving them info to some random
> call with no heads up.
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:44 AM Tony Wright  wrote:
>
>> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
>> asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
>> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
>> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
>> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
>> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
>> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>>
>>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Tom
>>>
>>

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Craig vN]

My wife yesterday had our insurance company randomly call asking to change
details. Told them there is no way she is giving them info to some random
call with no heads up.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 7:44 AM Tony Wright  wrote:

> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
> asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>
>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
>

RE: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Gordon Jones]

Similar to you, I had my Pension Provider call me up, when I explained to them 
that I did not KNOW who they were and was not prepared to discuss things with 
then they came up with a way to prove themselves,  I have had many people call 
me claiming they are so and so and wanting me to prove who I am – I told them 
the problem I phone them – I prove myself, They phone me they prove themselves. 
 Strange that very few phone me back.

It is a problem, and thankfully (or not) one I no longer have now being 
retired.  I do however like to keep my hand in with little bits of programming 
or Design

Not too helpful to Tom, but a common problem to all.

Martyn

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  On Behalf 
Of Tony Wright
Sent: 20 August 2020 22:45
To: ozDotNet 
Subject: Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and asked 
me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I said no way, 
because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me, and wore me down. I 
said the previous time they called me they let me call them back through 
switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the rep. I was so pissed 
off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint. Sorry, off topic on the 
OT.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P, 
mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi folks

I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the employer 
has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel comfortable 
sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows what they will 
do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.

How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?

Cheers
--
Thanks
Tom

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Tom P]

So many options, so confused haha

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 09:00, mike smith  wrote:

> Not like a passport can actually be used for anything other than id at the
> moment, sadly. :(   You could use one of the third party authentication
> companies like Certsy, but then that means trusting them.
>
> On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 08:12 DotNet Dude  wrote:
>
>> Worse case scenario you ask them if it’s ok you black out the sensitive
>> info on the passport before sending like the DOB and passport number. I
>> assume they just want to see your name and photo on an Aussie passport.
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 08:28,  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The better ones have started to use voice prints. If they call you, they
>>> can then have additional verification that it’s you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Otherwise, if they call me, and then want to verify details, that’s
>>> always “no”. Large percentage of the time, they just want to sell you
>>> something associated with your account, etc. anyway. Their loss.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dr Greg Low
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
>>> fax
>>>
>>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>>> 
>>>  |http://greglow.me
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  *On
>>> Behalf Of *David Apelt
>>> *Sent:* Friday, 21 August 2020 7:56 AM
>>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Is it for a cyber security role? If yes, then it's a test.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 21 Aug. 2020, 7:44 am Tony Wright,  wrote:
>>>
>>> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me
>>> and asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
>>> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
>>> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
>>> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
>>> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
>>> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Level 5, 143 Coronation Drive, Milton QLD 4064
>>> 
>>> | PO Box 1464, Milton QLD 4064
>>>
>>> www.transmax.com.au
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This e-mail and attachments may contain confidential or privileged
>>> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
>>> sender immediately by e-mail and then delete this message and attachments.
>>> In this instance, any distribution, copying, publication, or use of this
>>> information for any purpose is prohibited.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
Thanks
Tom

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[mike smith]

Not like a passport can actually be used for anything other than id at the
moment, sadly. :(   You could use one of the third party authentication
companies like Certsy, but then that means trusting them.

On Fri, Aug 21, 2020, 08:12 DotNet Dude  wrote:

> Worse case scenario you ask them if it’s ok you black out the sensitive
> info on the passport before sending like the DOB and passport number. I
> assume they just want to see your name and photo on an Aussie passport.
>
> On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 08:28,  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> The better ones have started to use voice prints. If they call you, they
>> can then have additional verification that it’s you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Otherwise, if they call me, and then want to verify details, that’s
>> always “no”. Large percentage of the time, they just want to sell you
>> something associated with your account, etc. anyway. Their loss.
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg
>>
>>
>>
>> Dr Greg Low
>>
>>
>>
>> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
>> fax
>>
>> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
>> 
>>  |http://greglow.me
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  *On
>> Behalf Of *David Apelt
>> *Sent:* Friday, 21 August 2020 7:56 AM
>> *To:* ozDotNet 
>> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport
>>
>>
>>
>> Is it for a cyber security role? If yes, then it's a test.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 21 Aug. 2020, 7:44 am Tony Wright,  wrote:
>>
>> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
>> asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
>> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
>> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
>> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
>> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
>> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>>
>> Hi folks
>>
>>
>>
>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> --
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Level 5, 143 Coronation Drive, Milton QLD 4064
>> 
>> | PO Box 1464, Milton QLD 4064
>>
>> www.transmax.com.au
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> This e-mail and attachments may contain confidential or privileged
>> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
>> sender immediately by e-mail and then delete this message and attachments.
>> In this instance, any distribution, copying, publication, or use of this
>> information for any purpose is prohibited.
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[DotNet Dude]

Worse case scenario you ask them if it’s ok you black out the sensitive
info on the passport before sending like the DOB and passport number. I
assume they just want to see your name and photo on an Aussie passport.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 08:28,  wrote:

>
>
> The better ones have started to use voice prints. If they call you, they
> can then have additional verification that it’s you.
>
>
>
> Otherwise, if they call me, and then want to verify details, that’s always
> “no”. Large percentage of the time, they just want to sell you something
> associated with your account, etc. anyway. Their loss.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Greg
>
>
>
> Dr Greg Low
>
>
>
> 1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913
> fax
>
> SQL Down Under | Web: www.sqldownunder.com
> 
>  |http://greglow.me
> 
>
>
>
> *From:* ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com  *On
> Behalf Of *David Apelt
> *Sent:* Friday, 21 August 2020 7:56 AM
> *To:* ozDotNet 
> *Subject:* Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport
>
>
>
> Is it for a cyber security role? If yes, then it's a test.
>
>
>
> On Fri, 21 Aug. 2020, 7:44 am Tony Wright,  wrote:
>
> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
> asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>
> Hi folks
>
>
>
> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>
>
>
> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
> --
>
> Thanks
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Level 5, 143 Coronation Drive, Milton QLD 4064
> 
> | PO Box 1464, Milton QLD 4064
>
> www.transmax.com.au
>
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail and attachments may contain confidential or privileged
> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
> sender immediately by e-mail and then delete this message and attachments.
> In this instance, any distribution, copying, publication, or use of this
> information for any purpose is prohibited.
>
>
>

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Tom P]

Haha no just a .net dev role

On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 07:56, David Apelt 
wrote:

> Is it for a cyber security role? If yes, then it's a test.
>
> On Fri, 21 Aug. 2020, 7:44 am Tony Wright,  wrote:
>
>> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
>> asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
>> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
>> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
>> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
>> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
>> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>>
>> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks
>>>
>>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>>
>>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Thanks
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Level 5, 143 Coronation Drive, Milton QLD 4064
> 
> | PO Box 1464, Milton QLD 4064
> www.transmax.com.au
>
>
>
> This
>
> e-mail and attachments may contain confidential or privileged
>
> information. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the
>
> sender immediately by e-mail and then delete this message and
>
> attachments.  In this instance, any distribution, copying, publication,
>
> or use of this information for any purpose is prohibited.
>
> --
Thanks
Tom

RE: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[greg]

 

The better ones have started to use voice prints. If they call you, they can 
then have additional verification that it’s you.

 

Otherwise, if they call me, and then want to verify details, that’s always 
“no”. Large percentage of the time, they just want to sell you something 
associated with your account, etc. anyway. Their loss.

 

Regards,

 

Greg

 

Dr Greg Low

 

1300SQLSQL (1300 775 775) office | +61 419201410 mobile│ +61 3 8676 4913 fax

SQL Down Under | Web:  

 www.sqldownunder.com | 

 http://greglow.me

 

From: ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com   
mailto:ozdotnet-boun...@ozdotnet.com> > On 
Behalf Of David Apelt
Sent: Friday, 21 August 2020 7:56 AM
To: ozDotNet mailto:ozdotnet@ozdotnet.com> >
Subject: Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

 

Is it for a cyber security role? If yes, then it's a test. 

 

On Fri, 21 Aug. 2020, 7:44 am Tony Wright, mailto:tonyw...@gmail.com> > wrote:

It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and asked 
me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I said no way, 
because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me, and wore me down. I 
said the previous time they called me they let me call them back through 
switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the rep. I was so pissed 
off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint. Sorry, off topic on the 
OT.

 

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P, mailto:tompbi...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi folks

 

I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the employer 
has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel comfortable 
sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows what they will 
do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.

 

How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?

 

Cheers

-- 

Thanks

Tom

 

   
 

Level 5, 143 Coronation Drive, Milton QLD 4064 | PO Box 1464, Milton QLD 4064

www.transmax.com.au  

 

   

 

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Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[David Apelt]

Is it for a cyber security role? If yes, then it's a test.

On Fri, 21 Aug. 2020, 7:44 am Tony Wright,  wrote:

> It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
> asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
> said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
> and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
> them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
> rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
> Sorry, off topic on the OT.
>
> On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>
>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
>

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Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Tony Wright]

It's a tough one. I had an argument with a loan company who called me and
asked me to verify with them so they could access my account details. I
said no way, because they called me. They argued with me, patronised me,
and wore me down. I said the previous time they called me they let me call
them back through switch, but he said that's up to the discretion of the
rep. I was so pissed off. I still am. That reminds me to write a complaint.
Sorry, off topic on the OT.

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020, 9:10 pm Tom P,  wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>
> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>
> Cheers
> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Tom Rutter]

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 21:26, mike smith  wrote:

> Zip them with a pw, and send that separately.  Or maybe public key
> encrypted.  But that's something that hasn't really taken off well.
>
> Mike
>

Zip and PGP won’t solve the problem of where the info may end up after the
recipient receives them.


> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020, 20:40 Tom P  wrote:
>
>> Hi folks
>>
>> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
>> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
>> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
>> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>>
>> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Thanks
>> Tom
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[DotNet Dude]

I’ve used this in the past:

https://www.infotrack.com.au/products/web-voi/

Good luck convincing them though. They want what is easy.


On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 21:10, Tom P  wrote:

> Hi folks
>
> I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
> employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
> comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
> what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.
>
> How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?
>
> Cheers
> --
> Thanks
> Tom
>
>
>

[OT] Employer wants photo of passport

[Tom P]

Hi folks

I’ve been verbally offered a contracting role by a recruiter and the
employer has requested a photo of my passport via email. I do not feel
comfortable sending this for a few reasons, email is not secure, who knows
what they will do with the photo like forwarding it, etc.

How do you all handle this as I’m sure you’ve been in similar situations?

Cheers
-- 
Thanks
Tom