Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Mary Murphy
The Guthrie card in W.A. asks for birth weight. MM -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Thank you deeply, Debbie. My eyes are opened further, along with my mind. Aviva The point is that - and I'm sure no-one would doubt it - that scans have their place. In retrospect, I wish that I had had more scans with my second child - he may then have had the chance that my third did.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Andrea Quanchi
I put the last recorded weight which will be that recorded as birth weight whenever it was done Andrea Quanchi On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 02:54 PM, maxine hardinge wrote: a question for the midwives who are not weighing babies on day 3 - how do you complete the guthries card? it is

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Denise Hynd
Oh what a wonderfully naughtie and empowering midwife this woman Mary Murphy is!! I know from personal expereince Denise Hynd - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight

Re: [ozmidwifery] Active Birthing

2002-09-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Title: Message Hi, Vicki, and all, Thank you for that -- just catching up with yesterday's emails, oh dear. Had my first Active Birth session at home yesterday. The young woman was well-informed via internet sites, emails, and had her first ce class at hospital last week. Jo Bainbridge

[ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread JoFromOz
Today a booboo was made :( A primip -- elective c/s for breech presentation. Came out cephalic. Last u/s was at 27 weeks. :( Now she has a scar on her uterus :( (ETC)... Babies are Born... Pizzas are Delivered.

RE: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread Sally Westbury
I hope that she is advised to sue. This is gross negligence. Sally Westbury

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
please remember to pass on the details of CARES to this woman. (or the other cs support groups of course). warning...Jo is on her soap box once again WHAT A PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR 'CARE' THIS IS! Who in their right mind books a woman in for an elective cs based on presentation of a

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread alastair tawns
The only time that I had any of my 5 babies weighed on day 3 was when the midwife..a wonderful woman...failed to get around to it until then ! She didn't bother to weigh her immediately after the birth as 'she looked to be a good weight' and then only bothered on day 3 as I insisted that I

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
out of interest: what excuse was this woman given? "these things can happen?" I sincerely hope not Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: JoFromOz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [ozmidwifery] Make the PM support NMAP

2002-09-10 Thread alastair tawns
Dear Denise , I have already e-mailed all the members of the house of representatives and senators. In addition I have written to all members of relevant committees ...health, women's issues etc. As for JH , the best way to e-mail him is as you have done ..I think (!) i.e. via www.pm.gov.au

RE: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Vance Edwina
Birth weight is the only weight required on the Guthrie - Edwina -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of maxine hardinge Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss a question for

RE: [ozmidwifery] Sacred Singing

2002-09-10 Thread Vance Edwina
Title: Message Dear Vicki, Please can you send or fax a brochure via my hospital of employ : Mt Barker Hospital, PO Box 42 Mt Barker, 5251 Fax 8393 1700.  We are having a midwifery study day tomorrow (11/9/02) so fax would be good and I will promote it there.  I am actually working

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Leanne Meddemmen
Not something I 've recorded for a Neonatal screen for 15 years. When they ask for weight I always use the birth weight, and that it what all the Midwives do where I work. The hosp Day 4 weighs, but working in the CMP (ACT) I don't weigh unless I'm concerned about output and then not until day 4.

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Mary Murphy
Denise! don't encourage me. It's just that at the age of 60, one doesn't have a lot to lose by refusing to do things which I see to be unhelpful, untruthful or midleading. I guess you'll all just have to tolerate me till I retire when I'm 75. MM - Original Message - From: Denise Hynd

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread Mary Murphy
I wonder if this woman knows that the baby was cephalic at birth and her C/S was unnecessary? or was it hushed up? MM - Original Message - Today a booboo was made :A primip -- elective c/s for breech presentation.Came out cephalic.Last u/s was at 27 weeks.Now she has

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital
Birth weight is all we have ever used on these Sandra [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 2:54:11 pm a question for the midwives who are not weighing babies on day 3 - how do you complete the guthries card? it is my understanding that the weight and age are both needed for the Newborn screening

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Mary Murphy
I think I love this midwife! we could be soulmates? My Mum (a Maternity Nurse in the late 1930's) who caught lots and lots of babies in the S.w of W.a. told me that the real weight was after they had their first poo. I just think that this obsession with weight starts when babies are born. what

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Lyle Burgoyne
Hi Iagre totally with Rhonda cereal and toast do not make good breast milk .Mothers need some protien and some fat with all three meals Lyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/09/02 02:13pm Is this in a hospital? Check the mothers diets! What is on the menu for them? I am sure that

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread henk / eliza merbis
Jo, Why didn't the woman have an u/sound prior to the c/section to confirm presentation? Surely an u/sound at 27 weeks means nothing?!!! Liza - Original Message - From: Jo Dean Bainbridge To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:49 AM

Re: [ozmidwifery] Sacred Singing

2002-09-10 Thread Mary Murphy
Title: Message Am I right in thinking this is in the "Eastern States"? MM Thankyou for your enquiry... The"Ïntuitive Midwifery" workshop is open to all women and you would be most welcome. It is a big day,Sat 28th September (and another on the 29th when that fills)

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread alan trewern
Dear Jo What was recorded on her admission observations as they surely must have included abdo palpation and what was she told afterwards?I remember a multiparous woman who was having a caesar for a breech and was showered and shaved and in a theatre gown and requested palpation as the

RE: [ozmidwifery] Make the PM support NMAP

2002-09-10 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message I've had a lot of fun emailing a few federal but heaps of Queensland pollies...(nothing else to do...lol...yawn) making each one pertinent to the portfolio...eg...for the police minister... I am writing toask foryoursupportof the National Maternity Action Plan which will

[ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Vicki Chan
Title: Message Dear All Nic Edmondstone and I have developed a poster which supports the right of every woman to choose a midwife as her lead maternity carer...If you wish to see it, email me direct and I'll send it as an attachment. They are selling at cost price (printing and

RE: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Vicki Chan
Sure Mary...like we believe you are going to retire! Vicki -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss Denise! don't

[ozmidwifery] Loose weight

2002-09-10 Thread Ricardo Herbert Jones
Denise: I agree with you and with Mary Murphy... I never pay too much attention on scales. Babies normally loose 10% of their weight in the first days after being born (excuse me for using the term delivered. I´m from Brasil, here we speak portuguese..) At the 10th day they recover the weight

Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Jo Dean Bainbridge
Title: Message please send me a copy via email to have a look see. Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08 8388 6918birth with trust, faith love... - Original Message - From: Vicki Chan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[ozmidwifery] Poster

2002-09-10 Thread Ricardo Herbert Jones
Title: Message Vicki : I would love to receive this poster... Can I? Ricardo Herbert Jones, from Brasil [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you !! - Original Message - From: Vicki Chan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:12 AM

SV: [ozmidwifery] Poster

2002-09-10 Thread Kirsten Lerstrøm
Title: Message Vicki - I would to see the poster too. Please mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! kirsten -Oprindelig meddelelse-Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af Ricardo Herbert JonesSendt: 10. september 2002 16:59Til: [EMAIL

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
In Washington, USA the card asks for the birth wt. and then the age of the infant at the testing. marilyn - Original Message - From: maxine hardinge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss a question

Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Title: Message DEAR VICKI: I WOULD LOVE TO BUY A COUPLE AT LEAST.Ooops accidently hit the caps key! I would also like to know the address of the Intuitive Midwifery Workshop. I am assuming somewhere in Qld probablyaround Nambour/Landsborough? Did I miss something re the address? Marilyn

Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread HELEN
We would love several posters? I work in the Community Health Centre on Bruny Island, Tasmania. Please email me re costs etc. Best wishes Helen Grainger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-10 Thread leanne wynne
Dear All, I just wanted to add a note to your comment about the effect of ultrasounds on a baby's hearing. Recently my husband pointed-out to me an article about ultrasound that he came across in a Science journal. (he is a physics teacher) The article was speaking about some research designed

[ozmidwifery] Fw: just to keep you in the picture re Women NOW!

2002-09-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
thought this may interest some... - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Stephens To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:28 PM Subject: just to keep you in the picture re Women NOW! Hi there, Ive mentioned previously that free magazines mean a different mindset :

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Aviva Sheb'a
Too right! If anyone would like an emailed copy of a paper I presented at the 12th Congress of the International Association for Physical Education for Girls and Women, Melbourne, 1992 (I think, or 1993), let me know; I'll send it on. It's Dance and Self-Image -- Moving Ahead. Just had a

[ozmidwifery] A bit of light relief

2002-09-10 Thread Larry Megan
THIS ONE IS FOR THE GIRLS. Voted Women's Favorite Email of the Year A man was sick and tired of going to work every day while his wife stayed home. He wanted her to see what he went through so he prayed: Dear Lord, I go to work every day and put in 8 hours while my wife merely stays at home. I

[ozmidwifery] h*lp in Perth please

2002-09-10 Thread Larry Megan
Dear Perth People, I am asking on behalf of a friend who has just moved there. She is in need of a caring doctor to look at what might be a prolapse. The woman had a complete seperation of the synthysis pubis with her first birth 4 1/2 years ago and also a missed haematoma (sp?). Needless to say

Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Child Birth Information Service
Title: Message Please may I be sent 2 posters and costs to address below Thanks Terry Stockdale Independent Midwife/ Childbirth Information Service 156 Warwick Street West Hobart 7000 - Original Message - From: Vicki Chan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread Sally Westbury
My routine practice is not to weigh babies at birth. I do this for many reasons but primarily to slow things down for the newly born soul. I weigh the next day or so. I also advise the families not to dress the baby but just a nappy and baby wraps for the same reason. This means that in the

[ozmidwifery] A Train is Coming?

2002-09-10 Thread Ricardo Herbert Jones
Leanne: This is Ric from Brasil Let me add some anedoctal thing I heard today in my office Cristina, the doula and childbirth educator that works with me during labors (I'm an obstetrician in the extreme south of Brasil) told me that she was surprised with what she listened in her last

[ozmidwifery] Fw: Poster

2002-09-10 Thread Lois Wattis
- Original Message - From: Lois Wattis To: Vicki Chan Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Poster Dear Vicki - could I please have a copy of the poster mentioned on the ozmid list? Let me know the cost plus postage and I'll send you a cheque. Could you also email

RE: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Larry Megan
Title: Message Hi Vicki Can I have a copy to please, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, Megan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicki ChanSent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 3:42To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject:

RE: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Judy Chapman
Copy for me too please Vicki, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicki Chan Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 3:42 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth! Dear All Nic

Re: [ozmidwifery] c/s for breech

2002-09-10 Thread JoFromOz
The u/s at 27 weeks showed the baby was cephalic. later palps said breech... mum said baby hadn't moved from breech and she felt she could feel the head under her ribs. Still, an u/s just prior to the cut would have been greatly appreciated. As for the excuse, I'm not sure there would have

Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread lyn kelson
Title: Message Dear Vicki, Could you please post your email address so I can contact you re posters. Thanks Lyn Kelson. - Original Message - From: Vicki Chan To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:12 PM Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] vaginal ultrasound

2002-09-10 Thread Margie Perkins
At Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:12:45 +1000, leanne wynne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: They found that to the baby the ultrasound waves are the volume of a locomotive train!! Is it any wonder babies try to get away from it? I will ask him for the name of the journal so I can post it on

Re: [ozmidwifery] A Train is Coming?

2002-09-10 Thread leanne wynne
Ric, I have come home in my lunch hour and riffled through my husband's numerous journals on his desk and found that journal article I referred to. It is Popular Science' Vol 269 No.3. I will quote part of it for you: Mostafa Fatemi of Minnesota's Mayo Clinic wondered why...fetuses always seem

Re: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!

2002-09-10 Thread Penny Barrett
Vicki, I would like a copy of the poster, please. Thank you. Penny Barrett. At 11:12 PM 9/10/02 -0700, you wrote: Dear All Nic Edmondstone and I have developed a poster which supports the right of every woman to choose a midwife as her lead maternity carer...If you wish to see it,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Menstruation

2002-09-10 Thread Maternity Ward Mareeba Hospital
PS. He is still breastfeed, day and night as he cosleeps. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09/2002 2:01:23 pm I had to smile when I read this, my 16 month old poppet (who has never seen the inside of a child health nurses office) dosen't even come close to the percentile lines. We are not big people,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss

2002-09-10 Thread MHS Grové
Yes Aviva may I please have it Hettie Grove South Africa - Original Message - From: Aviva Sheb'a To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:42 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss Too right! If anyone would like an emailed copy

[ozmidwifery] lease financially Support NMAP!

2002-09-10 Thread Denise Hynd
Dear fellow NMAP supporter! Things are really hotting up with the National maternity Action Plan (NMAP)! The public launch is planned for 24 September and looks like being very successful. Press conferences are being held in Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth.