The Guthrie card in W.A. asks for birth weight. MM
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Thank you deeply, Debbie. My eyes are opened
further, along with my mind.
Aviva
The point is that - and I'm sure no-one would doubt
it - that scans have their place. In retrospect, I wish that I had had
more scans with my second child - he may then have had the chance that my third
did.
I put the last recorded weight which will be that recorded as birth
weight whenever it was done
Andrea Quanchi
On Tuesday, September 10, 2002, at 02:54 PM, maxine hardinge wrote:
a question for the midwives who are not weighing babies on day 3 - how
do you complete the guthries card? it is
Oh what a wonderfully naughtie and empowering midwife this woman Mary Murphy
is!!
I know from personal expereince
Denise Hynd
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From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:24 AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight
Title: Message
Hi, Vicki, and all,
Thank you for that -- just catching up with
yesterday's emails, oh dear. Had my first Active Birth session at home
yesterday. The young woman was well-informed via internet sites, emails, and had
her first ce class at hospital last week. Jo Bainbridge
Today a booboo was made :(
A primip -- elective c/s for breech
presentation.
Came out cephalic.
Last u/s was at 27 weeks.
:(
Now she has a scar on her uterus :( (ETC)...
Babies are Born... Pizzas are
Delivered.
I hope that she is advised to sue. This is
gross negligence.
Sally Westbury
please remember to pass on the details of CARES to
this woman. (or the other cs support groups of course).
warning...Jo is on her soap box once
again
WHAT A PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR 'CARE' THIS
IS! Who in their right mind books a woman in for an elective cs based
on presentation of a
The only time that I had any of my 5 babies weighed on day 3 was when the
midwife..a wonderful woman...failed to get around to it until then ! She
didn't bother to weigh her immediately after the birth as 'she looked to be
a good weight' and then only bothered on day 3 as I insisted that I
out of interest: what excuse was this woman
given? "these things can happen?"
I sincerely hope not
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08
8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
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From:
JoFromOz
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Denise , I have already e-mailed all the
members of the house of representatives and senators. In addition I have written
to all members of relevant committees ...health, women's issues etc. As for JH ,
the best way to e-mail him is as you have done ..I think (!) i.e. via www.pm.gov.au
Birth weight is the only weight required on the Guthrie
- Edwina
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of maxine
hardinge
Sent: Tuesday, 10 September 2002 2:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss
a question for
Title: Message
Dear Vicki,
Please can you send or fax a brochure via
my hospital of employ : Mt Barker Hospital, PO Box 42
Mt Barker, 5251 Fax 8393 1700. We are
having a midwifery study day tomorrow (11/9/02) so fax would be good and I will promote it there. I am actually working
Not something I 've recorded for a Neonatal screen for 15 years. When they
ask for weight I always use the birth weight, and that it what all the
Midwives do where I work. The hosp Day 4 weighs, but working in the CMP
(ACT) I don't weigh unless I'm concerned about output and then not until day
4.
Denise! don't encourage me. It's just that at the age of 60, one doesn't
have a lot to lose by refusing to do things which I see to be unhelpful,
untruthful or midleading. I guess you'll all just have to tolerate me till
I retire when I'm 75. MM
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From: Denise Hynd
I wonder if this woman knows that the baby was cephalic at birth and her
C/S was unnecessary? or was it hushed up? MM
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Today a booboo was made :A primip
-- elective c/s for breech presentation.Came out
cephalic.Last u/s was at 27 weeks.Now
she has
Birth weight is all we have ever used on these
Sandra
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/09/2002 2:54:11 pm
a question for the midwives who are not weighing babies on day 3 - how do you complete
the guthries card? it is my understanding that the weight and age are both needed for
the Newborn screening
I think I love this midwife! we could be soulmates? My Mum (a Maternity
Nurse in the late 1930's) who caught lots and lots of babies in the S.w of
W.a. told me that the real weight was after they had their first poo. I
just think that this obsession with weight starts when babies are born.
what
Hi Iagre totally with Rhonda cereal and toast do not make good breast milk .Mothers
need some protien and some fat with all three meals Lyle
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/09/02 02:13pm
Is this in a hospital? Check the mothers diets! What is on the menu for
them? I am sure that
Jo,
Why didn't the woman have an u/sound prior to the
c/section to confirm presentation? Surely an u/sound at 27 weeks means
nothing?!!!
Liza
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From:
Jo
Dean Bainbridge
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 10:49
AM
Title: Message
Am I right in thinking this is in the "Eastern States"? MM
Thankyou for your
enquiry... The"Ïntuitive Midwifery" workshop is open to all women and
you would be most welcome.
It is a
big day,Sat 28th September (and another on the 29th when that fills)
Dear Jo
What was recorded on her admission observations as they
surely must have included abdo palpation and what was she told
afterwards?I remember a multiparous woman who was having a caesar for a
breech and was showered and shaved and in a theatre gown and requested palpation
as the
Title: Message
I've
had a lot of fun emailing a few federal but heaps of Queensland
pollies...(nothing else to do...lol...yawn)
making
each one pertinent to the portfolio...eg...for the police
minister...
I am writing
toask
foryoursupportof the National Maternity Action
Plan which will
Title: Message
Dear
All
Nic
Edmondstone and I have developed a poster which supports the right of every
woman to choose a midwife as her lead maternity carer...If you wish to see it,
email me direct and I'll send it as an attachment. They are selling at cost
price (printing and
Sure Mary...like we believe you are going to retire!
Vicki
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mary Murphy
Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:55 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss
Denise! don't
Denise:
I agree with you and with Mary Murphy...
I never pay too much attention on scales.
Babies normally loose 10% of their weight in the first days after being born
(excuse me for using the term delivered. I´m from Brasil, here we speak
portuguese..)
At the 10th day they recover the weight
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please send me a copy via email to have a look
see.
Jo Bainbridgefounding member CARES SAemail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]phone: 08
8388 6918birth with trust, faith love...
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From:
Vicki Chan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Title: Message
Vicki :
I would love to receive this poster...
Can I?
Ricardo Herbert Jones, from Brasil
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Thank you !!
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From:
Vicki Chan
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 3:12
AM
Title: Message
Vicki
- I would to see the poster too. Please mail me directly at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks!
kirsten
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Herbert JonesSendt: 10. september 2002 16:59Til:
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In Washington, USA the card asks for the birth wt. and then the age of the
infant at the testing. marilyn
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From: maxine hardinge [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 9:54 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight loss
a question
Title: Message
DEAR VICKI: I WOULD LOVE TO BUY A COUPLE AT
LEAST.Ooops accidently hit the caps key! I would also like to know the address
of the Intuitive Midwifery Workshop. I am assuming somewhere in Qld
probablyaround Nambour/Landsborough? Did I miss something re the address?
Marilyn
We would love several posters? I work in the Community Health Centre on
Bruny Island, Tasmania. Please email me re costs etc. Best wishes
Helen Grainger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Dear All,
I just wanted to add a note to your comment about the effect of ultrasounds
on a baby's hearing. Recently my husband pointed-out to me an article about
ultrasound that he came across in a Science journal. (he is a physics
teacher) The article was speaking about some research designed
thought this may interest some...
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From: Elizabeth Stephens
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 09, 2002 4:28 PM
Subject: just to keep you in the picture re Women NOW!
Hi there,
Ive mentioned previously that free magazines
mean a different mindset :
Too right! If anyone would like an emailed copy of
a paper I presented at the 12th Congress of the International Association for
Physical Education for Girls and Women, Melbourne, 1992 (I think, or 1993), let
me know; I'll send it on. It's Dance and Self-Image -- Moving Ahead. Just had a
THIS ONE IS FOR THE GIRLS.
Voted Women's Favorite Email of the Year
A man was sick and tired of going to work every day while his wife stayed
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stays at home.
I
Dear Perth People,
I am asking on behalf of a friend who has just moved there. She is in need
of a caring doctor to look at what might be a prolapse. The woman had a
complete seperation of the synthysis pubis with her first birth 4 1/2 years
ago and also a missed haematoma (sp?). Needless to say
Title: Message
Please may I be sent 2 posters and costs to address
below
Thanks Terry Stockdale Independent
Midwife/
Childbirth Information Service
156 Warwick Street
West Hobart 7000
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From:
Vicki Chan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My routine practice is not to weigh babies at birth. I do this for many
reasons but primarily to slow things down for the newly born soul. I
weigh the next day or so.
I also advise the families not to dress the baby but just a nappy and
baby wraps for the same reason. This means that in the
Leanne:
This is Ric from Brasil
Let me add some anedoctal thing I heard today in my office
Cristina, the doula and childbirth educator that works with me during labors
(I'm an obstetrician in the extreme south of Brasil) told me that she was
surprised with what she listened in her last
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From: Lois Wattis
To: Vicki Chan
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 8:29 AM
Subject: Poster
Dear Vicki - could I please have a copy of the poster mentioned on the
ozmid list? Let me know the cost plus postage and I'll send you a
cheque. Could you also email
Title: Message
Hi
Vicki Can I have a copy to please,
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Thanks, Megan
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicki
ChanSent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 3:42To:
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Copy for me too please Vicki,
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Judy
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Vicki Chan
Sent: Wednesday, 11 September 2002 3:42
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Poster...for better birth!
Dear All
Nic
The u/s at 27 weeks showed the baby was cephalic.
later palps said breech... mum said baby hadn't moved from
breech and she felt she could feel the head under her ribs.
Still, an u/s just prior to the cut would have been greatly
appreciated.
As for the excuse, I'm not sure there would have
Title: Message
Dear Vicki,
Could you please post your email address so I
can contact you re posters.
Thanks
Lyn Kelson.
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From:
Vicki Chan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 4:12
PM
Subject:
At Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:12:45 +1000,
leanne wynne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
They found that to the baby the ultrasound waves are the volume of a locomotive
train!!
Is it any
wonder babies try to get away from it? I will ask him for the name
of the
journal so I can post it on
Ric,
I have come home in my lunch hour and riffled through my husband's numerous
journals on his desk and found that journal article I referred to. It is
Popular Science' Vol 269 No.3. I will quote part of it for you:
Mostafa Fatemi of Minnesota's Mayo Clinic wondered why...fetuses always
seem
Vicki, I would like a copy of the poster, please.
Thank you.
Penny Barrett.
At 11:12 PM 9/10/02 -0700, you wrote:
Dear All
Nic Edmondstone and I have developed a poster which supports the right of
every woman to choose a midwife as her lead maternity carer...If you wish to
see it,
PS. He is still breastfeed, day and night as he cosleeps.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/09/2002 2:01:23 pm
I had to smile when I read this, my 16 month old poppet (who has never seen the inside
of a child health nurses office) dosen't even come close to the percentile lines. We
are not big people,
Yes Aviva may I please have
it
Hettie Grove
South Africa
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From:
Aviva
Sheb'a
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 1:42
AM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Day 3 weight
loss
Too right! If anyone would like an emailed copy
Dear fellow NMAP supporter!
Things are really hotting up with the National maternity Action
Plan (NMAP)! The public launch is planned for
24 September and looks like being very successful. Press
conferences are being held in Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane,
Adelaide and Perth.
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