Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Kim Stead
    Hi everyone.  I agree with Marilyn but being 'newish midwife'.. I would have everything ready to go and cannula and fluids on hand as well.   I'd also make a real effort to ensure she fully understood the situation should you have to intervene in a hurry.  I have seen a grand multip b

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Michelle Windsor
Hi Leanne,   There is some evidence now (as per the ALSO course and other research) to suggest that contrary to what we were taught previously, it is the primips that are more likely to PPH not the multis and grandmultis.  I can't claim alot of homebirth experience, but my feeling would be (like Ma

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Belinda Maier
I would still use physiological management but have synto and syntometrine on hand. I really think if you treat it as a problem before hand the you can precipitate the problem, that is the problem with much medical management they treat the potential problem before it is a problem and before you kn

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
I would make sure I had a good supply of oxytocics on hand even maybe have the syntocinon drawn up but unless she has a hx of PPH etc. I would not assume a PPH is destined to happen. Of course if the woman requested active management then that would be fine too. If the woman was confident to wait a

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Fiona: I guess what I am meaning is the transition time from lochia that is moderate rubra to light serosa type loss, so not active fresh bleeding. I am also meaning the quality of the lochia in the second week. I was more familiar with women having a moderate serosa (pinkish brown) type los

RE: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Sally Westbury
Hi Leanne, I would treat this women the same as any other. Physiological 3rd Stage unless I need to intervene. Here is a study to support this. Is grand multiparity an independent predictor of pregnancy risk? A retrospective observational study. Humphrey MD. Cairns Clinical School, School of M

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread leanne wynne
Hi All, I would be interested to hear from any experienced homebirth midwives how they would care for a woman who is a G10P9 if she chose to birth at home. She has had all normal, quick births so far. Would you use active management of third stage because she is a grand multip or would you still

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Fiona Rumble
Marilyn, could you please clarify what you mean by 'bleeding' in the post-partum. Are you refering to fresh blood loss or ongoing loss of lochia? I personally found no difference in the length of time I had a vaginal loss (similar to a period) with all three of my children- the first, defini

Re: [ozmidwifery] MORE ACTIVE MANGAEMENT

2005-02-24 Thread Marilyn Kleidon
Excellent point. I do think the 500mL definition for PPH is spurious. Having been educated by a homebirth midwifery school I have to say we were not concerned when the blood loss was less than 1000mL as most of our 3rd stages were physiological. Very occassionally we did use oxytocin for man

[ozmidwifery] Birthing in rural areas - ABC article

2005-02-24 Thread Graham and Helen
  Great publicity Justine!   http://www.abc.net.au/health/thepulse/s1309861.htm   Helen Cahill