Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:Sad Story, any help please?

2006-04-03 Thread Emily
haha as in Dr Bisits, the Australian obstetrician who spoke about reeducating people about breech births :)Gloria Lemay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What are "bisits", I don't think we have those in Canada. :-) GloriaEmily wrote: oh im so jealous ! how did bisits go?

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:Sad Story, any help please?

2006-04-03 Thread Gloria Lemay
He did a great job. I didn't remember that was his name but he was a very welcome addition to the conference. Gloria Emily wrote: haha as in Dr Bisits, the Australian obstetrician who spoke about reeducating people about breech births :) Gloria Lemay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [ozmidwifery] Just when you think the message isn't getting through...

2006-04-03 Thread Gloria Lemay
Congratulations, Kelly, keep up the good work. Love Gloria Kelly @ BellyBelly wrote: This is a perfect example of why I keep pushing promotion to the mainstream and why its S important. Sometimes you feel like you are getting nowhere, sometimes you feel like you are

Re: [ozmidwifery] Re:Sad Story, any help please?

2006-04-03 Thread Janet Fraser
I have a friend who had an emergency hysterectomy and is still bfing the baby 3 yrs later. It can certainly be done. How very sad though. J - Original Message - From: Carol Van Lochem To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 2:38 PM Subject:

Re: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
Just a couple of thoughts. 1 Despite a 30min limit they cannot give you treatment without your consent. So as long as you arn't bleeding out you can take longer to deliver your placenta. Logic dictates you arn't going to refuse treatment if this becomes essential and you can always change to

Re: [ozmidwifery] quote of the week

2006-04-03 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
I guess the word Paternal(ism) is the one that springs to mind. Another one with a negative conotation sadly. On 4/3/06, Julie Clarke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have found this thought provoking – And I am left wondering about the English language; we have a word for a male dominated

Re: [ozmidwifery] H*lp please - Article in the Sun Herald

2006-04-03 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
Hey David, did you get the article? Would love a copy. rgds mike On 3/31/06, Mike Lindsay Kennedy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey david I found the link to the paid version but couldn't find a downloadable copy which is unusual.

[ozmidwifery] after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread lyn lyn
Thanks one and all for your sharing your thoughts andexperiences. Gives me lots of things to discuss with this mum. lyn

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nitrous oxide

2006-04-03 Thread Mike Lindsay Kennedy
I'd like a copy or a link to your article if possible. rgds mike On 4/3/06, Andrea Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Paivi, I realised that you meant this message for me personally, however I did want to let list readers know that my article on the hazards of using nitrous oxide for

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread Nicola Morley
Title: Message Thanks Katrina. I would like to reply to you off list, but your email doesn't seem to have come through with the group email. Can you drop me a note at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! Nicola Nicola MorleyEditor - Scripture PlusBaptist Union of NSW ACTPrivate Bag 8, Glebe, NSW,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Nitrous oxide

2006-04-03 Thread Andrea Robertson
Hi Mike, The link isn't up on my website as yet - however I will email you a Word version of it to you privately, as the list can't handle attachments. Hope it is of interest. Regards, Andrea At 06:17 PM 3/04/2006, you wrote: I'd like a copy or a link to your article if possible. rgds

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread Julie Clarke
A bright lovely good morning to you all, In all of my groups, after fully explaining informed choice, I explain that there are three options for the women when choosing the way she would like to birth her placenta: 1. medically managed with an injection given into the thigh which will induce an

[ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Julie Clarke
Hello. It seems that women admitted to labour wards in the latent phase of labour are more likely to have interventions, and up to 80% of women presenting can have admission delayed (Lauzon Hodnett 2001). I have sought information on how to determine the transitionfrom latent to active

RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Maxine Wilson
Hi Julie an interesting concept and I have actually had this discussion before- Was it with you? I think as a student midwife that vaginal exams were one of the most difficult clinical skills to learn, because initially everything felt the same soft and squishy and it took a bit of

RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Megan Larry
I checked my own dialation with my fourth baby (waterbirth at home), it was short labour anyway, but I just wanted to know where bubs was at. I was sitting on my toilet, just leaned back and as clear as day was a ring/circle of about 5 cm. I was impressed with how obvious it was, amazing.

RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Maxine Wilson
Megan are you a midwife? Did you have some knowledge already or was that the first time you had felt a cervix in labour? Maxine From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Megan Larry Sent: Tuesday, 4 April

[ozmidwifery] tamworth

2006-04-03 Thread diane
Hi wise women, My nomadic step daughter who is now close to 28 weeks is booking in to Tamworth hospital today. Does anyone have any suggestions about the birthing services there, antenatal classes, support groups or any thing of the kind? At least she is close enough for me to get to if

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Alesa Koziol
Hi Julie Really this is just an extension of the info that is shared when talking about the difference between a 'ripe' and 'unripe' cervix. I encourage women to feel the difference within themselves ( as an at home activity!!) when we discuss non medical forms of induction, and I for one

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Janet Fraser
This is useful for checking your own dilation but I wish we weren't so obsessed with it in hospitals. It doesn't really tell us anything other than "Oh yes, you've dilated so far." and yet women's lives hinge on it. J http://www.joyousbirth.info/articles/cervixlearning.html I think it

RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Megan Larry
Not a Midwife, but a very active birth consumer. From memory late in pregnancy, post dates and lots of niggles etc, I had a bit of a look see (feel) to see if there was anything happening and could locate the cervix, but I was also mindful of it being invasive and was really out of my own

[ozmidwifery] Sunrise

2006-04-03 Thread Jo Watson
The baby whisperer was on Sunrise this morning - did anyone see it? Touting strict day time routines to make your baby sleep all night. You *need* to do [this] etc. No mention that every baby is different. I'm sure there would be a transcript of it up somewhere if anyone's interested. I

[ozmidwifery] My Sunrise Email

2006-04-03 Thread Jo Watson
Yet again we have another 'expert' telling us firstly that our babies *should* be sleeping through the night, and secondly that there is only one way to make them do this. Children's sleep cycles are so different to adults, that 'sleeping through the night' for them means a 5 hour

RE: [ozmidwifery] My Sunrise Email

2006-04-03 Thread Kelly @ BellyBelly
I'm pretty sure this one doesn't have children either. But at least she's more professional and composed than some other sleep experts I know. She's open to criticism and wont offer to sue as a first step LOL Best Regards, Kelly Zantey Creator, BellyBelly.com.au Gentle Solutions From Conception

RE: [ozmidwifery] Sunrise

2006-04-03 Thread Jane Wines
I thought she had died last year? Is that the one from the UK - I'm sure she had a heart attack!! Jane -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jo Watson Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:34 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: [ozmidwifery]

RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Julie Clarke
Hi Megan, I too am not a midwife but an active consumer and I have met many others similarly to you who are very aware and curious of their own body, who delight in the wonderful discoveries that pregnancy can bring. Yes, Maxine, you and I have had a terrific chat about all this in the

Re: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Melissa Singer
Hi Maxine, This is my own personal experience with self examination. I'm a midwife of ten years working in a hospital setting (ie have done plenty of V.E's!!) and when I had my first baby just over a year ago I laboured at home from 11am until midnight when I did my own examination and I

RE: [ozmidwifery] managed versus physiological 3rd stage, was: after birth pains

2006-04-03 Thread jo
This is a small handout by Gloria Lemay (thanks Gloria) I give to clients about self checking. jo Self-Checking of Dilation and Descent From: Childbirth Quotes from Gloria Lemay http://www.birthlove.com/pages/gloria/quotes.html How to Check Your Own Cervix- it's not rocket science I

RE: [ozmidwifery] any benefit to teaching women self examination?

2006-04-03 Thread Maxine Wilson
Oh what a stressful experience I had something similar happen for my first vaginal birth (and labour) when I was examined I was only 3 but I thought I must have been 8 and felt really panicky and then within about 20 mins I was pushing and 15 minutes later my baby was born. But it was