RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Ken Ward
I was thinking the same today, Abby. The list seems to have changed. It wasn't all that long ago we would have been discussing how not to give hepb, but just last week the topic was when to give it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL

RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Mary Murphy
I think there is a witch hunt beginning quietly in the background and midwives are being a bit reticent about speaking out. Look behind you, the might be a Cassius standing there with a knife. m I was thinking the same today, Abby. The list seems to have changed. It wasn't all that long ago we

RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Mary Murphy
Signals from disposable sensors located on the maternal cervix and fetal head objectifies the examination process Is there actually a woman and a baby involved in this birth? M , -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Janet Fraser
Abby for President I love your work! J -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - PostdatesPregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Lynne Staff
It would be VERY interesting to hear how this is explained to women. I can imagine the minifisms herejust a little clip that sits on your cervix, and one that sits on the baby's head etc. Located is an interesting word for screwed in or the sensor pirecing the baby's scalp. Forgive me if I

Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - PostdatesPregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Lynne Staff
As a follow on from the message I just posted, I'd love to know how women in the ACTOBAC trial are being informed about the short and long term consequences of CS. - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006

Re: [ozmidwifery] Orly Sachar

2006-05-30 Thread Lynne Staff
To all who might be interested, here is the link to his work. Regards, Lynne http://www.pantaneto.co.uk/issue2/shachar.htm - Original Message - From: Mary Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 9:06 AM Subject: [ozmidwifery] Orly

RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread leanne wynne
I for one am sick and tired of all the artificial machines, gadgets and procedures that are dreamed-up as some magical method to improve on normal birth. The birthing process is designed to work perfectly most of the the time so lets keep our interferring hands off until there is a medical

RE: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Mary Murphy
Well, how can we know if there is a medical indication unless the machines have told us? MM so lets keep our interferring hands off until there is a medical indication!! Leanne. -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit http://www.acegraphics.com.au to subscribe or unsubscribe.

[ozmidwifery] ? changing nature of the list....

2006-05-30 Thread Helen and Graham
There are all sorts of people contributing to this list, some are pro abortion, some are anti-abortion, some are pro immunization some are anti-immunization, some are pro homebirth and some are not etcand all along the spectrum in between. I think it is what makes this list interesting.

Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread sharon
hi i think that machines do have their palce in the birthing process if and only if the individual woman has a pre exisiting complaint such as PIH or APH. to moniter the baby is a good thing not to mention the fact that some of these machines ensure that there is a reduced perinatal mortality.

Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread penny burrows
I think a lot these days about our attachment to each and every baby and the life of that baby at any cost. I for one don't think that machines have a place in my personal birthing life for whatever reason and object to others feeling that they might. We all have thoughts about how we think

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Justine Caines
Beautifully put Penny! Yes where are we when the most important physical and spiritual event is taken away from /handed over by women? I laugh when I hear that Feminism has achieved so much. To me the very essence of womanhood is controlled by at best a very organised patriarchy and at worst

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies(May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread Stephen Felicity
I'm nodding vigorously, Penny and Justine! - Original Message - From: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: OzMid List ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 12:56 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies(May 24, 2006) Beautifully

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Re: Re: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: E-News 8:11 - Postdates Pregnancies (May 24, 2006)

2006-05-30 Thread abby_toby
Abby for President I love your work! J LOL! Thanks Janet. About 10 years ago my ambition was to become Australias first female prime minister. Things have changed since then, I still want to change things but know it is easier done in the background. Love Abby -- This mailing list is