Title: Re: [ozmidwifery]  PINARD not Pinnards
Dear listers
I find my Doppler invaluable when the children or other family members want to listen to their baby to be. It is also an essential tool for underwater monitoring.  However I maintain my skills using the Pinard as I sometimes have clients wanting the safest environment for their unborn baby, request that I don’t use ultrasound to monitor fetal heart rates during pregnancy.

Like Lieve I sometimes leave a Pinard for the father to listen when he is having trouble making ear contact.
Usually after a few practice runs finding the point of maximum intensity the men tell me they would rather listen with their ear.

PS
I believe the correct spelling in PINARD ... The stethescope was named after the same Pinard who devised Pinard’s manouvre for dealing with the extended legs of a breech baby.

Jan Robinson  



On 22/1/03 5:16 PM, "Lieve Huybrechts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

That’s also my way of working. They come to the prenatal visits and they can tell exactly how the baby is positioned. They call me the moment  that breech babys tumble around. That gives them confidence and power.  I have a lot of pinnards and I give each couple a pinard from 20 weeks on and I teach the father how to listen. They make it an event of the day. In one case I forgot my doppler at home during a birth. I listened to the baby with the pinard  and they didn’t find it strange or unsafe at all. They knew that it was perfect.

Warm greetings
Lieve



   On 22-01-2003 00:00, "Sally Westbury" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Cas,

You point is intereting. I also don’t offer for women to hear the baby. .. It is that process of allowing or teaching women to know their own baby, for them to be the expert. I also ask the women what position the baby is in and how the baby is.. whether the baby has dropped etc etc.. before I feel.. Probably is why at the end of the pregnancy I have women who can be very overdue (I am waiting with 2 overdue women presently) who are utterly confident that the baby is fine and they can wait for the baby to be ready to come out!



Sally Westbury

Homebirth Midwife



"You are a midwife, assisting at someone else's birth. Do good without  show or fuss. Facilitate what is happening rather than what you think ought to be happening. If you must take the lead, lead so that the mother is helped, yet still free and in charge. When the baby is born, the mother will rightly say: "We did it ourselves!"

from The Tao Te Ching






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