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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 20:41:45 -0700
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: BOUNCE [EMAIL PROTECTED]:    Non-member submission 
>from ["Eggleston, Alan (Senator)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]
>
>
>I suggest that you read the other emails involved in this discussion rather
>than just the one circulated. My point is that the insurance industry
>decision is a reflection of the fact that public expectations of all medical
>outcome are now so high and so is the expectation of regulatory "duty of
>care " , that the insurance industry is simply reflecting that reality in
>their decision regarding insurance cover for midwives. Things have changed
>in the last 100 years (1701 was a typographical error .. I meant 1901 ) and
>as you would know there has been a revolution in Obstetrics since the 1960s
>. I am not doing anything more than pointing out that that the industry
>decision is understandable in terms of current Australian conditions with
>the enormously high damages now being awarded for adverse obstetric outcomes
>which the insurance industry has to bear.I also feel very strongly that the
>interests of the unborn child must be given full consideration and that
>no-one has the moral right to put the interests of the child at risk
>especially preventable risk .
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Johnston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, 20 July 2001 6:38 AM
>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]';
>'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>Subject: substandard service
>
>
><ANY SUGGESTION OF SUBSTANDARD SERVICE>
>Senator Eggleston
>This is an outrageous claim (see your message below).  Is it the position
>of the government that midwives provide a substandard service?  That
>midwives attending births on their own responsibility are more likely to
>encounter complications and (implied) deaths and morbidity than if they are
>attended by people under the instruction of obstetricians?
>
>The position you have outlined is unsupportable.  National and
>international evidence that is accepted as professional best practice
>supports the midwife as primary caregiver, with access to specialist
>services when required.
>
>I encourage you to speak with the bodies with responsibility for
>registering midwives to practice in Australia, and the Australian College
>of Midwives.  Even the College representing obstetricians would, I believe,
>point out the unsupportable and damaging nature of your statement.
>
>Yours truly,
>Joy Johnston MIDWIFE
>25 Eley Rd  Blackburn South Vic  3130
>Tel:    03 9808 9614
>Fax:    03 9808 3611
>M:      04111 90448
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Eggleston, Alan (Senator) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: 'Sue Cooper' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:44 PM
> > Subject: RE: Independent Midwives
> >
> >
> > >YOU SHOULD THANK THE LORD YOU DID NOT HAVE ANY COMPLICATIONS SUCH AS A
> > >SHOULDER DYSTOCIA OR A HAEMORAGE ... WOMEN HAVE REWPONSIBILITY TO THE
> > UNBORN
> > >CHILD TO ENSURE THAT THE SERVICES OF MODERN MEDICAL SKILLS AND
>TECHNOLOGY
> > >ARE AVAILABLE IF NEEDED.
> > >
> > >THE INSURANCE PREMIUMS PAID BT DOCTORS ENGAGED IN OBSTETRICS ARE SO HIGH
> > >BECAUSE THE ELEMENT OF RISK IS SUCH THAT IF THERE IS ANY SUGGESTION OF
> > >SUBSTANDARD SERVICE COURTS WILL AWARD PUNITIVE DAMAGES.
> > >
> > >IF MIDWIVES WANT TO PRACTISE IN THE MODERN WORLD THEY SHOULD DO MEDICINE
>,
> > >BECOME DOCTORS AND TRAIN AS OBSTETRECIANS.
> > >
> > >THIS IS 2001 NOT 1701.



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