RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-31 Thread Vedrana Valčić
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:13:18 +0200 This is the minimum of what European midwives have to learn, either in 3 years of practical and theoretical studies (after 10 years

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-31 Thread Emily
Hynd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: <OZMIDWIFERY@ACEGRAPHICS.COM.AU>Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:18:02 +0800Dear RachelI find your fe! dd back v

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Vedrana Valčić
. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Janet Fraser Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:22 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Rachel

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread wump fish
, then the answer is not to leave birth the the obs, but to improve mw education and empower the mw profession. Rachel From: Vedrana Valèiæ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Vedrana Valčić
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 8:54 AM To: 'ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au' Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Obviously scary rubbish makes better news than truthful lovely births. I think you are SO right there. It seems to me

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Denise Hynd
: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) As a newcomer to Australia from the UK - it seems that the obs are behaving like threatened children. Firstly, their stats can flawed. Other developed countries have also looked at the evidence and concluded

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Judy Chapman
Thank God there are some who support us, they are just not vocal enough. Without the support of the Cairns OB's Mareeba would be history. Cheers Judy --- wump fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a newcomer to Australia from the UK - it seems that the obs are behaving like threatened children.

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Judy Chapman
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 08:54:14 +0200 Obviously scary rubbish makes better news than truthful lovely births. I think you are SO right there. It seems to me

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Vedrana Valčić
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Judy Chapman Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 2:14 PM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) You are so right about many Australian

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread wump fish
@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:18:02 +0800 Dear Rachel I find your fedd back very perceptive it seems that the obs are behaving like threatened children. And previously Regarding the 3rd

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread Honey Acharya
fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Thanks Denise! What a lovely response. Moving to Australia has re-ignited my fighting spirit

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-30 Thread wump fish
the way of the future??? Honey - Original Message - From: wump fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Thanks Denise! What

RE: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-29 Thread wump fish
As a newcomer to Australia from the UK - it seems that the obs are behaving like threatened children. Firstly, their stats can flawed. Other developed countries have also looked at the evidence and concluded that midwife-led, community-based care is effective, efficient and safe. For example,

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-29 Thread Janet Fraser
Rachel (welcome btw!) I hear everything you're saying and I concur. It's so transparently about a professional monopoly but their own brilliant misinformation campaign is so entwined with our current cultural fears around normal physiological birth that very little gets into the media to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-29 Thread Justine Caines
Hi All Janet consumer letters are published quite regularly (well MC members seem to be). I had a corker refuting Pieter Mourik's assertion re homebirth safety where I called him 'factually impotent' Letters to the Ed are hard to crack. I have a 50/50 success rate. After a while you adapt to

Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report)

2005-08-29 Thread Janet Fraser
ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:01 PM Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Fw: 'Higher risk' in midwife deliveries (http://theaustralian.com.au report) Hi All Janet consumer letters are published quite regularly (well MC members seem to be). I had a corker refuting Pieter