I often have this argument Abby, that before we start triAling the safety of vbac we should look at the Vbac outcomes for various settings and modles of care. I argue that even the very low rates of rupture in a hospital setting (the rates that still include induced and augmented labours!) are not indicative of the REAL rtes of ruptures and 'failed' vabc attempts because the meddle factor is always present in a tertiary hospital setting that always influences these things.
MANIPULATION OF DATA!!!!!!!! -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2005 8:22 AM To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Maternal and Perinatal Outcomes AssociatedWith a Trial of Labor After Prior Cesarean Delivery > Maternal and Perinatal Outcomes Associated With a Trial of Labor After > Prior Cesarean Delivery > Wouldn't it be great to have a study done on VBAC outcomes that were purely natural and homebirths. All the studies seem to be done in big hospitals where, I can imagine, they have strict proticols regarding 'trial of scar' or 'trial of labor' ( aauugghh how much I hate that, like giving women permission to 'trial' their body, automatically gives a sense of maybe I can, maybe I can't!!) Surely the outcomes of a study would differ greatly when women birthed with complete freedom of movement and with noone monitoring constantly, no fingers eager to 'check' how things are going and no fear from caregivers. Love Abby -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe. -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/142 - Release Date: 10/18/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.4/143 - Release Date: 10/19/2005 -- This mailing list is sponsored by ACE Graphics. Visit <http://www.acegraphics.com.au> to subscribe or unsubscribe.