Re: Newborn footprints

2001-10-30 Thread klevine



I haven't been able to find much published on the subject of newborn
foorprinting for security purposes on our midwifery database. Apart from a
couple of anecdotal items from the mid 90s, the only article evaluating its use
is:

Butz AM, Oski FA, Repke J et al. Newborn identification: compliance with AAP
guidelines for perinatal care. Clinical Pediatrics, vol 32, no 2, Feb 1993, pp
111-113.

Kathy Levine
Infornation Officer
MIDIRS
9 Elmdale Road
Bristol BS8 1SL
England

Tel: 0117 925 1791
Fax: 0117 925 1792
Website: www.midirs.org
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Another health debate

2001-10-30 Thread Sally-Anne Brown

Or get on too - got to get a balanced presentation as the ABC would have us
believe !  Go get em.

Sally-Anne

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 From: Denise Hynd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Justine Caines [EMAIL PROTECTED]; OzMid List
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 Subject: Another health debate
 Date: Tuesday, 30 October 2001 22:06
 
 
 Dear Justine
 Health Dimensions on ABC is to have next week's program as adebate
between
 Michale W and Jenny M
 perhaps you can get Norman Swan to ask a question from Matenity Coalition
 Their email is
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Denise
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi there
 
  I have just spoken to Adele Horin from the Sydney Morning Herald about
  birthing issues.  In our conversation she mentioned the birth payment
and
  said she would be very interested in getting 50 responses by the end of
 the
  week to do a story, she then said she could incorporate the other
 important
  issues (lack of support services etc).  Can Oz Midders who will be
 affected
  or who have recently had a bub e mail me a short response on their
 reaction
  to the news.
 
  Do you understand who will benefit? etc
 
  Do you think it is money well spent or a tinley veiled vote buyer? etc
 
  Can you pass on this message through your networks and get anyone
affected
  to post back to me by Thursday.
 
  at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Thanks a bunch
 
  Let's stick it up them!!!
 
 
  Justine Caines
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RE: Newborn footprints

2001-10-30 Thread Johnston

My first 3 babies were footprinted at birth (ie before I was able to hold 
them!) as part of identification.  They were born in Lansing, Michigan, in 
1973, 75, and 77.  I was given birth certificates with the footprints - and 
presumably could use these as proof if there was any question of 
baby-swapping.
Joy J

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I haven't been able to find much published on the subject of newborn
foorprinting for security purposes on our midwifery database. Apart from a
couple of anecdotal items from the mid 90s, the only article evaluating its 
use
is:

Butz AM, Oski FA, Repke J et al. Newborn identification: compliance with 
AAP
guidelines for perinatal care. Clinical Pediatrics, vol 32, no 2, Feb 1993, 
pp
111-113.

Kathy Levine
Infornation Officer
MIDIRS
9 Elmdale Road
Bristol BS8 1SL
England

Tel: 0117 925 1791
Fax: 0117 925 1792
Website: www.midirs.org
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: Newborn footprints

2001-10-30 Thread TinaPettigrew

In a message dated 30/10/01 8:09:59 PM AUS Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I haven't been able to find much published on the subject of newborn
 foorprinting for security purposes on our midwifery database. Apart from a
 couple of anecdotal items from the mid 90s, the only article evaluating its 
use
 is:
 
 Butz AM, Oski FA, Repke J et al. Newborn identification: compliance with AAP
 guidelines for perinatal care. Clinical Pediatrics, vol 32, no 2, Feb 1993, 
pp
 111-113.
 
 Kathy Levine
 Infornation Officer
 MIDIRS
 9 Elmdale Road
 Bristol BS8 1SL
 England 

Hi all,

I have a question with regards to this baby ID thing. I suppose I'm 
questioning the need for such 'routine' and stringent 'labelling' of babies 
in the days of babes 'rooming in' with their mothers where there is a high 
expectation that mother and babe will stay together and not be separated. I 
would have thought that this practice was more relevant in the days of 
routine separation of mother and babe - with babies kept in nurseries and 
only brought to their mothers for feeds. 

Please excuse my naivety with regards to institutional procedures and 
protocols, but  why do babies need such comprehensive ID procedures if they 
are with their mothers ?? Is ALL this 'routine' labelling really a necessity 
??  I'm not advocating that babes not be 'labelled' at all - I understand the 
need for some form of identification linking a particular babe with its 
mother, however, I suppose I'm questioning the process that some listers here 
have outlined in their protocols of babe ID as two and even three and four 
separate procedures - leg bands, arm bands and just in case we'll do 
footprints and other body labelling (tattoos) as well - ah to be sure, to be 
sure !!!. If babes are removed from their mothers, eg: Admitted to special 
care nurseries etc.. etc.. I don't think anyone questions the need for 
routine ID (perhaps even by footprinting) - But do ALL babes routinely need 
to be subjected to this practice ??

Who is all this labelling practice protecting ?? 

I think its important also that we look carefully at what potential messages 
this practice may send to parents, in addition to the purported anecdotal 
'acceptance' by parents of this procedure. If staff wanted to label my babe 
in this way - leg bands, arm bands AND footprints and temporary tattoos - I 
think I would start to wonder about the safety of my babe and their potential 
to get 'lost' !!  Does it also not send a message to mothers that we don't 
trust them to be able to 'know' their own babies ?? 

Yours in Birth,
Tina Pettigrew.


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Re: Next Weeks program with Dr Wooldridge and Ms Macklin

2001-10-30 Thread Denise Hynd
Title: FW: Next Weeks program with Dr Wooldridge and Ms Macklin



Health Dimensions is the half hour  ABC TV program 
on Tuesday 6:30pm.

Radio National has a half hour Medical Report 
on Monday 8:30am 

Both are hosted by DR Norman Swan!!

Denise

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Justine Caines 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2001 8:11 
  PM
  Subject: FW: Next Weeks program with Dr 
  Wooldridge and Ms Macklin
  DeniseThanks so much for the info!! You're a Gem. 
  I take it Health Dimensions is also on Radio National.Here it tis 
  FYILoveJustine--From: Justine Caines 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
  Tue, 30 Oct 2001 23:07:57 +1100To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  Next Weeks program with Dr Wooldridge and Ms MacklinDear 
  NormanI write on behalf of a national consumer organisation, The 
  Maternity Coalition. We are a group of mothers and midwives interested 
  in improving maternity care, particularly women having real choices in who 
  cares for them and especially access to midwifery led care, considered by the 
  World Health Organisation as the most cost effective and appropriate care for 
  the majority of women (80-85% is an accepted figure), rather than the 
  obstetric based model that is costly and only appropriate for a minority of 
  women requiring specialist care.I put the question to Dr Wooldridge 
  and Ms Macklin on Australia Talks Back on Monday that although there have been 
  at least 6** inquiries to maternity care in the last 10 years in this country 
  and little if any of the recommendations that have been made have been taken 
  up. I asked why only a small percentage (3-5% nationally) have access to 
  midwife only care and would they expand this.Wooldridge straight out 
  said no and cited a ridiculous argument that it would then create a precedent 
  for other practitioners not currently under Medicare (ie physiotherapists and 
  Chiropractors). We are not talking about another service though, the 
  birth of a child is the same under a midwife or GP. Except under a 
  midwife the outcomes are far more likely to be positive and the care is 
  cheaper to the Gov (as extensive research has proven). What disturbs me 
  is he then proceeded to answer another question on Medicare rebates for 
  alternate therapies to say that Medicare has been about Drs for too long and 
  he was proud to announce that certain non drug related therapies will be 
  covered by Medicare by Psychologists.This hypocrisy is astounding. 
  What we need to remember is that"More than a 
  quarter of a million babies are born every year in Australia. Childbirth 
  is the single most important reason for hospitalisation and accounts for the 
  highest number of occupied bed days." ##It has been accepted 
  that a fee for service for pregnancy care can promote over servicing and about 
  the only outcome of the Senate report was a clamp down on the number of 
  ultrasound's performed on healthy pregnant women. More is spent on 
  ultrasound's in this country than on the entire antenatal budget. Our 
  post-natal services are as usual over-stretched and many women are suffering. 
  Unfortunately, once again no action is being taken on enabling women to 
  make choices for themselves. In NZ where women are provided with a birth 
  payment and can choose their carer 70% choose midwife only care. Yet our 
  federal Health Minister dismisses it outright!Could you please follow 
  this up, particularly with Dr Wooldridge? I would be happy to 
  provide any references for you and can be contacted on (02) 6238 1041 or by 
  return e-mailYours sincerely Justine CainesMaternity 
  Coalition ACT Branch_**NSW 
  (Shearman Report 1989)** Victoria (Having a baby in Vic 1990)** ACT 
  Maternity Services Review 1994**WA Select Ctte on Intervention in 
  Childbirth 1995 ** NHMRC Options for effective care in childbirth 
  1996** ##Rocking the Cradle (1999 Senate Community Affairs Committee 
  Report into Childbirth 
Procedures).


Midwifery Education in Tasmania

2001-10-30 Thread TinaPettigrew

Hello everyone,

just a request for some info please. I would very much like to find out about 
the current 'state of play' of midwifery education in Tasmania. If anyone has 
any info of what is currently happening/available in Tassie - could they 
please let me know ??

Yours in birth,

Tina Pettigrew
Birthworks
Independent CBE and aspiring B.Mid Midwife.
Convenor, Aust B. Mid Student Collective.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/BMidStudentCollective
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 As we trust the flowers to open to new life
   - So we can trust birth
Harriette Hartigan.
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Birth Payment Responses NEEDED

2001-10-30 Thread Justine Caines

Hi there


I have only 4 responses and need 50 by tomorrow Fri at the latest.  I think
anyone can give me their response not just new mums.  Let's face they are
the one's that find it so damn hard to get to the computer!

Justine Caines

Maternity Coalition ACT Branch 
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failed induction

2001-10-30 Thread Rosalee Shaw

has anyone got a good definiton of a failed induction?

rosalee

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