Re: [ozmidwifery] The Land

[Justine Caines]

Title: Re: [ozmidwifery] The Land



Dear Diane

Better than the letter, about to call the Editor.  Have set up a number of letters from unknowns!

So not newsworthy and as usual with no solution.  I know rural issues will be our ticket to reform.

Kind regards

Justine

[ozmidwifery] The Land

[diane]

Hi, Justine do you have your pen at ready? Did you 
see the huge article about the demise of rural obstetrics in last weeks "The 
Land". Not once was the word midwife mentioned when they were discussing a 
solution! I think I will drop them a line too.  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
Cheers 
Diane.
PS passed through your way yesterday on way back 
from Narrabri (we took the scenic route!). Nice and green out there now and very 
pretty with the wildflowers and weeds

RE: [ozmidwifery] Question....

[Carolina.Sequeida]

Thanks Lynne, I have also passed on your message to Natalie

-Original Message-
From: Lynne Staff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 8 October 2005 8:56 AM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Question


We have a VBAC education session on at Selangor next weekend (Sat 9-12.30) 
and I have 8 couples planning a VBAC booked in. If she is intersted, she 
could call me there on 07 5450 4359
Cheers, Lynne
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From: "Philippa Scott" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:16 PM
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Question


> Where in Queensland? Does she want face to face or a email group like the
> one www.birthrites.org has?
> Philippa Scott
> Doula
> Birth Buddies
> Supporting Women ~ Creating Life
> President - Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolina.Sequeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:20 PM
> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Question
>
>> Hello,
>> I would like to ask you all a question, a lady who is currently 37 weeks
>> pregnant and lives in QLD would like to try for a VBAC I am looking
> for
>> any information as she would really benefit from a support group as she
>> mentioned to me that she felt like she had failed because she had an 
>> emerg
>> c/section with her first baby.
>> Any information will be greatly appreciated!
>> Thanks,
>> Carol.
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RE: [ozmidwifery] Question....

[Carolina.Sequeida]

Thank You Philippa, I have passed on your details to Natalie! She is in
Sunnybank, QLD.

-Original Message-
From: Philippa Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 5:38 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Question


I dont know if this is what she is looking for but if she wants to talk be
phone I am open to that. I had a VBAC 10mths ago and support women with it.
I also have talked to a bunch of women about what they are looking for in
their VBAC and what that means. Anyway I guess I am trying to say I have
been there & have been there with other women too. My numbers are 0747734075
and 0407648349. My personal choices however are not relevant to her
situation, so you may choose what you tell her, she may only need to know
that I had a c/s first time.
Cheers
Philippa Scott
Doula
Birth Buddies
Supporting Women ~ Creating Life
President - Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
- Original Message -
From: "Carolina.Sequeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 4:48 PM
Subject: RE: [ozmidwifery] Question


> She would be really interested in both types but I think she would really
> benefit from speaking with other women who have gone through the same
> experience She is due to give birth in a few weeks and she is 'scared'
> her body will not cope with a VBAC and she is also worried her Dr will not
> give her a 'good' chance to give birth although she is supportive of a
VBAC
> but Dr has also hinted it may be 'safer' to go for a repeat C section...
> :(
> Thanks for the web link and I will give her this site and any other info I
> come across..
> Thanks,
> Carol.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Philippa Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, 7 October 2005 4:17 PM
> To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
> Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Question
>
>
> Where in Queensland? Does she want face to face or a email group like the
> one www.birthrites.org has?
> Philippa Scott
> Doula
> Birth Buddies
> Supporting Women ~ Creating Life
> President - Friends of the Birth Centre Townsville
> - Original Message -
> From: "Carolina.Sequeida" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 3:20 PM
> Subject: [ozmidwifery] Question
>
>
> > Hello,
> > I would like to ask you all a question, a lady who is currently 37 weeks
> > pregnant and lives in QLD would like to try for a VBAC I am looking
> for
> > any information as she would really benefit from a support group as she
> > mentioned to me that she felt like she had failed because she had an
emerg
> > c/section with her first baby.
> > Any information will be greatly appreciated!
> > Thanks,
> > Carol.
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Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI

[leanne wynne]

Hi Sadie,
Sorry, I just copied it as it was written on the web-site ... I guess you 
could get a librarian to find the journal for you .

Leanne.

Leanne Wynne
Midwife in charge of "Women's Business"
Mildura Aboriginal Health Service  Mob 0418 371862





From: "Sadie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
To: 
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] article FYI
Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 17:58:51 +1000

Hi Leanne,
Do you have the names' of the authors who wrote this article?
Thanks,

Sadie


- Original Message - From: "leanne wynne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 9:42 AM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] article FYI



Building an antenatal care consensus
Issue 20: 3 Oct 2005
Source: European Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology and Reproductive 
Biology 2005; 122: 22-32 & 1-3


A new study has identified the extent to which guidelines on the antenatal 
care of normal pregnancy are consistent between different European 
countries.


Researchers at the European Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, in 
Guildford, UK, set out to evaluate and compare the content of national 
guidelines for routine antenatal care in the 25 countries that make up the 
European Union (EU).


Antenatal care was defined as "baseline clinical care of all pregnancies 
of a healthy woman with an uncomplicated singleton pregnancy."


The researchers conducted a literature review and identified 37 routine 
tests. They then sent a questionnaire to government health departments and 
national ob/gyn organizations, asking them to specify which of the 37 
tests were recommended in official antenatal care guidelines.


Of the 25 member countries, 20 reported having such national guidelines. 
Overall, these guidelines recommended 47 different tests (10 more than 
identified in the literature review).


Of these, 23 tests were recommended for routine care by more than 50 
percent of the countries, and applied to more than 50 percent of the total 
population. This 50 percent/50 percent criterion was considered by the 
researchers to be suitable for clarifying which tests should be included 
in a proposed common minimum guideline for EU member countries.


The final 23?
Writing in the European Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology and 
Reproductive Biology, the researchers say the 23 tests included three that 
were recommended in all 20 countries with national guidelines. These three 
universal tests were blood group, blood pressure and Rhesus factor 
determination.


The 23 tests also included 12 that were recommended by more than 75 
percent of the countries (but not 100 percent). These included maternal 
weight, urinalysis/bacteria, hemoglobin, urinalysis/protein, fetal 
position, fundal height, and hepatitis B.


Four of the 23 tests were considered not to be sufficiently supported by 
published literature. These were vaginal examination to predict a 
premature ripening of the cervix, auscultation of the fetal heart rate, an 
oral glucose tolerance test for gestational diabetes, and urinalyses for 
glucose. The researchers say these tests require further investigation.


Concluding, they write that "the suggested minimum guideline can only be 
seen as the beginning of a process which might culminate in a consensus 
conference at which national representatives of the relevant institutions 
as well as individual health professionals can find a consensus, which can 
be finally accepted by all member states."


In a brief commentary in the same issue of the journal, its editor says 
the study "will perform a valuable function in showing obstetricians how 
their practice compares with that elsewhere, and it provides an important 
basis for reflection and discussio



Leanne Wynne
Midwife in charge of "Women's Business"
Mildura Aboriginal Health Service  Mob 0418 371862


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Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling

[Kylie Carberry]

That was the message from the info I read - if there is a predisposition to hip dysplasia, swaddling with the legs firmly together will not help.  Whereas having their legs in a frog like position can help the hips form properly.  Apparently the African mothers who have their newborn babies sitting on their hip in those sling kind of things have virtually no cases of hip dysplasia.  Obviously if there are no risk factors a tight swaddle won't hurt, but like in lots cases of late diagnosis' the mums were unaware of a family history or other risk factors wer not present.  It might be interesting to ask my orthopeadic (spelling?) surgeon to see his thoughts on this.  One US ortho states swaddling can lead to waddling.
I guess it's food for thought.
Kylie


From: "Marijke Eastaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.auTo: Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddlingDate: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:53:47 +0930




This is really interesting, I recently birthed with a woman and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good to lift babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was pressure somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side was recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip dysplasia. It could be possible that if you swaddle with disposable nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on this.

- Original Message - 
From: Kylie Carberry 
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:38 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling


Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH.  We have since discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling.  I have swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers.  Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing.  I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of.  As midwives,what are everyones thought?
Kylie Carberry
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RE: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling

[Julie Clarke]

Hi Marijke,

Yes I have heard this same information –
I had a lovely chiropractor come through my classes here at home and after each
session she would stay back and we would talk for quite some time about
chiropracty and babies – babies backs should be well supported when held
and carried – babies should not be held up by their ankles for nappy
changing as this applies too much pressure to the upper spine and neck –
best to avoid holding babies with hands under armpits and thumbs across chest
and fingers either side of the spine – a common way to hold babies to
life them in and out of things like bath etc. Best to support well with an open
generous hand across the shoulders and neck with the other hand across
supporting the hips and bottom to lift.

It’s wonderful to run groups and
meet these amazing people and learn lots from them – since she came
through I have adapted her ideas into my sessions and interestingly the couples
often make comments like “yes that makes logical sense…” they
ask “why does everyone do it the other way” and I reply “because
that’s how it’s been done for a long time and people learn by
copying and will keep doing it without question just because everyone else does
it that way – but really we should question everything”

Warm hug to all

Julie

 



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Independent Childbirth and Parenting Educator

HypnoBirthing (R) Practitioner

ACE Grad Dip Supervisor

NACE Advanced Educator and Trainer

NACE National Journal Editor

Transition into Parenthood Sessions

9 Withybrook Place

Sylvania NSW 2224

Telephone  9544 6441

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From: owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au [mailto:owner-ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au] On Behalf Of Marijke Eastaugh
Sent: Sunday, 9 October 2005 6:24
PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] hip
dysplasia and swaddling



 



This is really interesting, I recently birthed with a woman
and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good to lift
babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was pressure
somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side was
recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip
dysplasia. It could be possible that if you swaddle with disposable
nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there
was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on this.







- Original Message - 





From: Kylie
Carberry 





To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 





Sent: Friday, October
07, 2005 1:38 PM





Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip
dysplasia and swaddling





 






Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH.  We have since discovered
that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip replacement before
50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of undiagnosed CDH), but I
am also wondering about swaddling.  I have swaddled all of my children and
always touting the benefits to my friends who are new mothers.  Now I am
wondering whether in fact this is not such a good thing.  I have read that
in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH is unheard of.  As
midwives,what are everyones thought?

Kylie Carberry



 





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RE: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

[Dean & Jo]

No problems Marijke, 
Great to hear from you BTW!  Lets get togeher soon and discuss the
'other stuff' . 
Cheers
Jo 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marijke
Eastaugh
Sent: Sunday, October 09, 2005 5:17 PM
To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au
Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet


Hi Jo, I would love to get a copy for myself and the Mt Barker Hospital.
I 
will ring you soon. Marijke
- Original Message - 
From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

Just wanting to let people know that CARES SA have just finished a 70+
page document covering all the issues about Birth After CS.  It is
AMAZINGLY GOOD (if I do say so myself! I am SO proud of Carolyn for
putting it together). It covers common myths then follows up with
current abstracts; highlights policies and management; outcomes and so
on.

ALL evidenced based.
ALL current.

Contents page:

Table of Contents

South Australian Perinatal Practice Guidelines 4
Best Available Research Comparing Risks of VBAC (Vaginal Birth After
Cesarean) and of Planned Repeat C-Section 11
Women’s Satisfaction with VBAC 17
VBAC After two Caesareans 20
Midwifery Care and VBAC 24
Preparing for a Vaginal Birth After Caesarean 28
Frequently Asked Questions 35
I was told…  39
Homebirth After Caesarean 46
Uterine Rupture 52
Another Caesarean 66
Recommended  Reading List 68
Statistics 71
Glossary 74

CARES SA INC.  is a non profit organization who provide understanding
and compassion for women recovering from  caesarean birth, planning
caesarean birth or aiming for a vaginal birth after caesarean (VBAC).

Awareness of the individual’s  rights to make informed choice is a main
focus of the group.   We encourage women and their families to become
actively involved in the decision making that will effect the birth of
their child. Aiming to increase community awareness and understanding of
the  issues surrounding surgical birth is also a main focus.

Recovery is a crucial element for maintaining good health.  It is very
important that a woman is fully informed of the physical recovery, but
more importantly we focus on the  vital need for emotional healing.
Through a safe, caring and understanding environment, women and their
partners are encouraged to follow their path to emotional healing.

Education is important when making decisions and it is our goal to be
up-to-date on current trends and philosophies.  By providing relevant
information to women and the community, we hope that a greater
understanding of the effects of caesarean birth will reduce the amount
of traumatic experiences.

Support for birth choices is vital, especially for those seeking vaginal
birth after caesarean. By providing women with the options available to
them and then respecting that choice, we hope to empower women and their
families to achieve the desired positive birth for both mother and
child.
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-perhaps a CARES membership of $20 pa-  further details will be
available for those interested.

Yours in choice

Jo Bainbridge CD
CARES SA
SA MC
Bloomin Good Birth

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Re: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and swaddling

[Marijke Eastaugh]

This is really interesting, I recently birthed with 
a woman and she had a friend who was an osteopath and said that it was not good 
to lift babies up by their legs to put a nappy on. The idea being that it was 
pressure somewhere on the neck region so to change a nappy rolling side to side 
was recommended. I'd never heard of this before, or the swaddling causing hip 
dysplasia. It could be possible that if you swaddle with disposable 
nappies especially and you do it really firm it could cause problems if there 
was already disposition in this direction. Anyone else have ideas on 
this.

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kylie Carberry 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 1:38 
  PM
  Subject: [ozmidwifery] hip dysplasia and 
  swaddling
  
  
  Recently my 18 month old was diagnosed with CDH.  We have since 
  discovered that there is a family history (my father-in-law had a hip 
  replacement before 50, and the specialist says it was probably a case of 
  undiagnosed CDH), but I am also wondering about swaddling.  I have 
  swaddled all of my children and always touting the benefits to my friends who 
  are new mothers.  Now I am wondering whether in fact this is not such a 
  good thing.  I have read that in cultures where there is no swaddling CDH 
  is unheard of.  As midwives,what are everyones thought?
  Kylie Carberry
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Northern Rivers

[Marijke Eastaugh]

Dear Diane, after the ICM congress I went to Byron 
Bay which is not far from Lismore . To my dissapointment I discovered that Byron 
Bay Hospital have two lovely birth rooms but no-one uses it. Of course politics 
and lack of Obs given as the reason. But no reason really if you wish to birth 
women there, low risk etc and there was a Midwife who was really keen to see the 
place used again her name escapes me for the minute but I'm sure if you rang the 
place and ask for a midwife there can't be too many in there at the 
moment.  good luck and enjoy Marijke

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Sue 
  Cookson 
  To: ozmidwifery@acegraphics.com.au 
  
  Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:28 
  PM
  Subject: Re: [ozmidwifery] Northern 
  Rivers
  Hi Diane,I'm doing a student clinical placement at Lismore 
  at present in the Birthing Suite.I live about an hour away and drive there 
  and back each day - beats flying to Adelaide for weeks at a time.Lismore 
  is a typically underfunded teaching institution, doing it's best under the 
  circumstances. There are about 1300 births per annum, with 4.5 birth rooms and 
  2 midwives on per shift.So there is no true facility for woman centred 
  care, and being a teaching hospital, it's not low intervention either. There 
  is no specific place to separate low and high risk women or the care they 
  receive ... the midwives do their best...Mullumbimby is not a birth 
  centre - it is not midwife run, but it does only take 'low risk' women. There 
  is somewhere between 25-33% transfers out of Mullum to other institutions. 
  There are 4 male GP's who provide care at Mullum, and women can only book in 
  if under a GP care. There are only about 120 births per year, with midwives 
  working between the birth rooms (3 of them) and the hospital.We can 
  only hope that there may be future case load serices at Lismore, but as I 
  said, it's a tertiary teaching hospital and there are always lots of young 
  doctors willing/needing to attend births...Hope this helps. Feel free 
  to email me off line if you want to ask more.Sue
  



Hi Listers,
Just a question about birthing services in the 
Northern Rivers region of NSW. Hoping to buy a property in the hills behind 
Lismore in the next year or so, when my son finshes his HSC. Looking like I 
will still have to work about three shifts a week for financial security and 
also some self employment stuff like lactation services(I am IBCLC) and 
calmbirth, which i plan to train in next year.
I am aware that Mullumbimby has a great birth 
centre, but we may be living a good 60 mins away from there. I also hope to 
move into homebirthing in the future. Is anyone familiar with birthing 
services at Lismore? Is it woman centred, low intervention, midwife friendly 
care? I am currently a team midwife on the central coast and am hoping to 
continue working with low risk women.
Any info would be appreciated as my family and 
I are so looking forward to this downshift, we are currently so stressed 
with full time work and travelling long distances in opposite directions to 
work while our lonely kids wait at home!!
 
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Re: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet

[Marijke Eastaugh]

Hi Jo, I would love to get a copy for myself and the Mt Barker Hospital. I 
will ring you soon. Marijke
- Original Message - 
From: "Dean & Jo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 4:23 PM
Subject: [ozmidwifery] Birth After CS booklet


Just wanting to let people know that CARES SA have just finished a 70+
page document covering all the issues about Birth After CS.  It is
AMAZINGLY GOOD (if I do say so myself! I am SO proud of Carolyn for
putting it together).
It covers common myths then follows up with current abstracts;
highlights policies and management; outcomes and so on.

ALL evidenced based.
ALL current.

Contents page:

Table of Contents

South Australian Perinatal Practice Guidelines 4
Best Available Research Comparing Risks of VBAC (Vaginal Birth After
Cesarean) and of Planned Repeat C-Section 11
Women’s Satisfaction with VBAC 17
VBAC After two Caesareans 20
Midwifery Care and VBAC 24
Preparing for a Vaginal Birth After Caesarean 28
Frequently Asked Questions 35
I was told…  39
Homebirth After Caesarean 46
Uterine Rupture 52
Another Caesarean 66
Recommended  Reading List 68
Statistics 71
Glossary 74

CARES SA INC.  is a non profit organization who provide understanding
and compassion for women recovering from  caesarean birth, planning
caesarean birth or aiming for a vaginal birth after caesarean (VBAC).

Awareness of the individual’s  rights to make informed choice is a main
focus of the group.   We encourage women and their families to become
actively involved in the decision making that will effect the birth of
their child. Aiming to increase community awareness and understanding
of the  issues surrounding surgical birth is also a main focus.

Recovery is a crucial element for maintaining good health.  It is very
important that a woman is fully informed of the physical recovery, but
more importantly we focus on the  vital need for emotional healing.
Through a safe, caring and understanding environment, women and their
partners are encouraged to follow their path to emotional healing.

Education is important when making decisions and it is our goal to be
up-to-date on current trends and philosophies.  By providing relevant
information to women and the community, we hope that a greater
understanding of the effects of caesarean birth will reduce the amount
of traumatic experiences.

Support for birth choices is vital, especially for those seeking vaginal
birth after caesarean.
By providing women with the options available to them and then
respecting that choice, we hope to empower women and their families to
achieve the desired positive birth for both mother and child.
--*--




We will be willing to supply email versions for people at a small cost
-perhaps a CARES membership of $20 pa-  further details will be
available for those interested.

Yours in choice

Jo Bainbridge CD
CARES SA
SA MC
Bloomin Good Birth

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9/27/2005

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Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.10.24/101 - Release Date: 13/09/2005


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